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Postby xyster » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:46 am

Fush wrote:Well it appears you are correct xyster just check his profile.

quick everyone hide :P

If the police officer has an overpowered ebike does that mean i can? :?


Aw shucks, we've been infiltrated. Guess we all better be on our best behavior now! :)

I didn't peek at his profile. I think I knew what flatfoot meant from the Cab Calloway song, "Flatfeet Floogie". :D
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Postby Freddyflatfoot » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:54 am

Fush,
My calcs give me over 2.3kW. Thats a whisker more over the 200 watt limit than I am getting. In fact about 10 times more!
I am trying to (mostly) stay within the spirit of the law, although I have to say that it is a bit frustrating. I mostly use the motor at 200 watts or less, which is sorta ok for assistance, but not much else. I'm looking at getting a higher amp controller, which should help a little bit.
I'm leaning towards using a 500 watt motor, which should give acceptable performance, without carrying around a bucket load of batteries.
That's the compromise I'm trying to find, the right blend of performance and acceptable weight. After all, the bike has to be usable without power.
I'm currently building a trike, and I certainly would not consider using anything less than 500 watts, unless its a Puma!
So, even tough I am a copper, and I should be working within the law, I'm not. Simply because most motors start at 250 watts, which is the first motor I bought.
The other issue is, that unless you have a honking big motor, and are scooting down the road at 60 kph+, most coppers wouldn't even know or care if you motor is over 200 watts max output. But if you get a keen one, watch out! The fines for unreg/unlic can be a killer!
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Postby Fush » Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:35 am

Freddyflatfoot wrote:Fush,
My calcs give me over 2.3kW. Thats a whisker more over the 200 watt limit than I am getting. In fact about 10 times more!


hehe well I don't plan on using my full 2.8Kw unless offroad, I plan on sticking around 500watt on my daily commute with the help of the Cycle Analyst
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Postby fechter » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:25 am

Freddyflatfoot wrote:...So, even tough I am a copper, and I should be working within the law, I'm not. ...


I think somebody needs to get that law changed!

Geez.. Lance Armstrong is good for something like 600w average. Most places have at least a 500w limit.

I don't know how the process works down there, but there is usually a way to get stupid laws ammended.
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Postby xyster » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:34 am

fechter wrote:
Freddyflatfoot wrote:...So, even tough I am a copper, and I should be working within the law, I'm not. ...

...
I don't know how the process works down there, but there is usually a way to get stupid laws ammended.


Process works basically the same way everywhere.

Spend time, money and risk your neck building a protest movement;

call your friend who knows the Governor personally;

start a referendum drive sure to fail if the subject affects less than a majority of voters;

run for office yourself and, if successful, get mired in the bloody sludge of a sclerotic political system;

hire a lobbyist or resort to less legal forms of bribery.
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Postby Freddyflatfoot » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:35 pm

there are already moves to increase our power limit, to a whopping 300 watts!
as for a most places having a 500 watt limit, I'm not sure that is correct.
Europe has a 250 watt, with a requirement for pedelec.
Not sure of power in England, but a top speed of only 15 mph! And then the motor must cut out.
Unless you want count the US, and say that is 'most places'!
I think I'll just work within moderate power levels that give me a reasonable speed of 30 -35 kph, and take my chances.
I figure if I do that, then I wont attract any attention at all!
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Postby fechter » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:23 am

Freddyflatfoot wrote:there are already moves to increase our power limit, to a whopping 300 watts!
as for a most places having a 500 watt limit, I'm not sure that is correct.
Europe has a 250 watt, with a requirement for pedelec.
Not sure of power in England, but a top speed of only 15 mph! And then the motor must cut out.


Yeah, you're probably right about that.

300w is not too bad for a lightweight setup. That's more than I can produce by pedaling for any length of time. :x

Since most cops don't carry a Fluke meter, they have no way to measure the actual power of the motor. If the sticker on the motor says 200w, how can they argue that? They also have no way to measure human input.

As long as you aren't 'flagrantly violating', I doubt you would run into trouble.
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Postby Mark_A_W » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:32 am

Freddyflatfoot wrote:there are already moves to increase our power limit, to a whopping 300 watts!
as for a most places having a 500 watt limit, I'm not sure that is correct.
Europe has a 250 watt, with a requirement for pedelec.
Not sure of power in England, but a top speed of only 15 mph! And then the motor must cut out.
Unless you want count the US, and say that is 'most places'!
I think I'll just work within moderate power levels that give me a reasonable speed of 30 -35 kph, and take my chances.
I figure if I do that, then I wont attract any attention at all!
Rob


Attract attention from the cops?

Cop pulls Rob over...."Hey Rob"

"Hey Bruce, how are ya?"

"Wanna come down the pub after work?"

"Yep, seeya there."


Cop pulls Mark over in the big smoke..

"I saw you riding the wrong way up the highway, jumping the median strip and going straight through the stop sign - you're friggin knicked matey".

"Well, it's a bike, that's the whole point of bikes - you don't have to obey the road rules, otherwise I may as well get a motorbike."

"Little smartarse...well, well, well, what do we have here? A motor? How much power does it put out?

"200w"

"Bullshit, now I got you for unlicensed riding, unregistered motorbike...and being a smartarse...now where's my phonebook..."

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Postby Fush » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:17 am

that's why we have cycle analysts
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Postby Freddyflatfoot » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:35 pm

Cop pulls Mark over in the big smoke..

"I saw you riding the wrong way up the highway, jumping the median strip and going straight through the stop sign - you're friggin knicked matey".

"Well, it's a bike, that's the whole point of bikes - you don't have to obey the road rules, otherwise I may as well get a motorbike."

"Little smartarse...well, well, well, what do we have here? A motor? How much power does it put out?

Actually Mark, if you are riding a bicycle you do have to obey the road rules. A bicycle is a vehicle according to the Road Safety Act, 1986. Check out the VicRoads website, it will confirm this.
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Postby Fush » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:44 pm

Freddyflatfoot wrote:BTW, how do you do that quoting thing on the replies?


Press the "quote" button on the top right of the post you want to quote or when you post the Quote button under the title can be pressed, result will look like this ["quote"]text["/quote"] but without the ""[/quote]
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Postby fechter » Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:14 pm

Things seem to be picking up lately.
New record number of users online : 201
39,000+ posts.
I think we'll pass 40k posts by the time my first anniversary rolls around.

If this keeps up, we might have to draft some moderators.



BTW, I have a Holmium laser that works great for blasting kidney stones. :twisted:
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Postby TylerDurden » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:15 pm

Ja, the server response seems to be dogging too. (Hammered by spam?)

Milestones, kidney stones... iceberg, Greenberg....

But, can you run the blaster with a 20A DC-DC converter?

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Postby fechter » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:20 pm

Yes, server does seem to be lagging a bit.

I think the laser has a switching power supply, so I can run it directly off my scooter battery. That thing is wicked BTW, it can blast holes right through stainless steel. :twisted:
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Postby Ypedal » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:52 am

Wow.. she's growin ! :P

I recall finding this site back when Vis4v was in full force.. and went " what.. only 5 posts ? and 3 members ?.. bah ".. lol

Look at it now !
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Postby knightmb » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:54 am

Yeah, the server was getting hammered a few days hard this week. Usually when you see a lot of "spontaneous guest", it's just a search engine indexing the site, but this time it was more than just the IP range of google. A lot of the "guest" were looking around the "E-bike Reviews & Testing" area the most from what I noticed. I think since it's almost Christmas time here, someone might have posted up a news link or something about shopping for an e-bike and this forum must been one of those links :D
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Postby TylerDurden » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:35 am

Ja, I'm wondering if the kids who have owned go-peds and razors are now looking at e-bikes.

Also: great way for parents to shave commuting... give the teenager an ebike.


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Postby fechter » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:32 pm

Over 40,000 posts and over 4,000 members!

That was quick.

Keep in mind that something like half the members are would-be spammers and not legitimate members.
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Re: Endless Sphere passes new milestones

Postby fechter » Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:18 am

Just passed 100,000 posts and 3400 members!
Over 100 posts per day, things are certainly growing here.
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Postby Link » Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:48 pm

Knight! 'Nother screenshot like in the first page of the thread, pls. :D
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Re: Endless Sphere passes new milestones

Postby Lock » Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:57 pm

fechter wrote:Just passed 100,000 posts and 3400 members!
Over 100 posts per day, things are certainly growing here.


Hi fechter how are the good ppl that host the system doing? I don't mean the mods, but the equipment and data pipelines whatever... Any stress or strain with this growth? Haven't looked, but is there a Paypal button or something here where ES crew might donate to the cause?
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Postby marty » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:40 pm

Lock wrote:
fechter wrote:Just passed 100,000 posts and 3400 members!
Over 100 posts per day, things are certainly growing here.


Hi fechter how are the good ppl that host the system doing? I don't mean the mods, but the equipment and data pipelines whatever... Any stress or strain with this growth? Haven't looked, but is there a Paypal button or something here where ES crew might donate to the cause?
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Postby Lock » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:50 pm

marty wrote:Lock - Have you been not paying? Please go here to make payments Endless Sphere Technology - Payment Center
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Ah ha! :)

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Postby marty » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:12 pm

Lock wrote:
marty wrote:Lock - Have you been not paying? Please go here to make payments Endless Sphere Technology - Payment Center
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Ah ha! :)

Now I just have to figure out what a "Wireless ISP Payment" and a "Service Address" are... My "problem" is I live in a world of cash and barter. Can't find the bit where it says "Insert $20's here" hehe
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