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Re: Reasons why the ebike is a world beater thread.

Post by LockH » Oct 29, 2017 12:27 am

markz wrote:T.O. - Wonder how its changed since 1981. :roll:
Huh? Hint: More and more folks all traveling around on the same sized patch of dirt ("earth"), with many/most still operating large, heavy, expensive vehicles w/several (empty) seats... plenty of (empty) cargo spaces... X percentage just driving around looking for any space to park "the beast"... most still burning and exhausting fossil fuels ("gas"/diseasal/etc... millions in property damages every year... millions of animals injured and killed also... (sometimes homo sapiens)...

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Re: Reasons why the ebike is a world beater thread.

Post by st35326 » Oct 29, 2017 12:29 pm

I'd say there is no more efficient means of powered transport (mostly having to do with mass of the vehicle). All of my more powerful ebike saverage about 45 watt hour/mile.
While my Tesla averages about 335 wh/mile.

Real time power usage example; 5kw on my last Chevy Volt's power meter got me up to about 18 miles per hour on a level road. 5kw on my ebike's CA gets me to 53mph.

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Re: Reasons why the ebike is a world beater thread.

Post by The fingers » Oct 31, 2017 7:48 pm

http://peopleforbikes.org/blog/busting- ... s-e-bikes/
BUSTING 10 MYTHS ABOUT E-BIKES

October 30, 2017

Morgan Lommele, e-bike campaigns manager


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In some circles, electric bicycles have an undeserved bad reputation. Like just about anything new, they require an open mind and a positive attitude. As their popularity skyrockets around the world, it’s only a matter of time before e-bikes really take off in the U.S. Fact is stronger than fiction, so here are 10 e-bike myths and the truth behind them.

FACT: Most e-bikes travel at bike-like speeds. Class 1 e-bikes have a motor that cuts off after the rider reaches 20 mph. This is the top assisted speed, not the average speed. On flat and uphill surfaces, class 1 e-bikes travel on average two to three miles per hour faster than traditional bicycles. Studiesshow that in some instances, e-bikes are slower than regular bikes, depending on the terrain and power produced by the rider.

FACT: E-bike riders, like nearly all riders, are generally respectful of the road. We are not aware of studies or reports that show that e-bike use decreases public safety.

FACT: E-bikes are slightly heavier than traditional bikes, but the greatest contributor to a heavy mass in bicycling is personal weight, not the weight of an e-bike. It’s no different than riding a traditional bicycle with loaded panniers.

FACT: Pedal-assist e-bikes are fundamentally different from ATVs, off-road motorcycles and internal-combustion off-road vehicles. Motorized vehicle regulations were written before the invention of e-bikes and shouldn’t be used to regulate e-bike use. E-bikes are emissions- and noise-free. PeopleForBikes works to distinguish e-bikes from motorcycles and bicycles so that e-bikes are understood and non-motorized trail access is preserved.

FACT: Most e-bike users are like most other path users—they generally respect the law of the road and are kind to others with whom they share public resources. Riding an e-bike is like riding a regular bike. If you want to break the law, you don’t need an e-bike to do it.

FACT: Many studies have already been performed that evaluated how e-bike and bike riders interact on trails. One study demonstrated that trying out an e-bike increased a person’s acceptance and reduced their uncertainty around e-bikes. In Colorado, the City of Boulder studied e-bike use on shared paths and found minimal “conflicts” between trail users, no observed crashes, no negative verbal interactions, and safe passing.

FACT: There’s risk in everything we do. This is a lesson that you learn the hard way. Climbers, hikers and cyclists are rescued from difficult situations every day. Self-reliance and proper preparation must be emphasized.

FACT: Excessive speed—both on regular- and e-bikes—can be monitored and ticketed using radar guns. But this is a highly inefficient use of trail manager time. Furthermore, speeding on e-bikes has yet to be identified as a significant problem. Clear signage and public etiquette education are the best ways to encourage all trail users to travel at safe speeds.

FACT: Sure they do. Most have years of trail experience. The typical e-bike rider is 45–65 years old and generally uninterested in reaching maximum speeds or passing other trail users without proper warning or slowing down.

FACT: We like to think that e-bikes aren’t cheating, they’re empowering.

We need to embrace e-bikes because they get more people on bikes more often. From older riders, to those with longer commutes, to people dealing with health issues, e-bikes provide important bike riding opportunities. We’re not saying they’re for everyone, but we believe that more people riding is not only good for everyone who rides, but for the entire community.

Let’s embrace the future and make the most of the many benefits that e-bikes offer.
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Re: Reasons why the ebike is a world beater thread.

Post by LockH » Nov 01, 2017 8:54 am

^^ :mrgreen:
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Re: Reasons why the ebike is a world beater thread.

Post by LockH » Nov 07, 2017 12:32 pm

Hehe... Watt makes some ebikers chuckle reading the news... Pain at the pumps:
http://torontosun.com/news/local-news/pain-at-the-pumps

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Drivers in Toronto were paying nearly $1.25 for a litre of regular gas on Sunday.

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Re: Reasons why the ebike is a world beater thread.

Post by LockH » Nov 20, 2017 4:16 am

Getting There: How about some love for roundabouts?
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/n ... undabouts/

Starts:
Spokane County’s first multilane roundabout opened last week on U.S. Highway 2 just west of Airway Heights, part of the Spokane Tribe of Indians casino development.

Oh, the horror.

Despite a wealth of information extolling the benefits of the circular intersection, the word “roundabout” causes shivers and engages local drivers’ lizard brains. It’s as if the four-way stop were covered in the Bill of Rights.

But it’s not, so bring on the roundabout. They’re safer, more efficient, cheaper and, let’s be honest, simply more elegant than conventional intersections. So why the hate?
... includes:The reasons for the reduction are many, but the bulk of emissions don’t necessarily come from idling while waiting for the green. Emissions jump when vehicles accelerate from a stop sign or red light.

Notice how many stops for pubic transit vehicles are situated closely to stops and traffic lights at intersections? ... and average times spent sitting and standing around waiting for the next vehicle to arrive?

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Re: Reasons why the ebike is a world beater thread.

Post by LockH » Nov 22, 2017 10:54 pm

Travelling by pubic transit in Toronto exposes you to damaging bursts of sound, study says
("Sudden bursts of loud noise can cause hearing loss and lead to a host of health problems"):
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/t ... -1.4414767

Includes:
For example, nearly 20 per cent of the loudest noises on the subway exceeded 114 decibels, which is considered risky if exposure lasts more than four seconds.
... and:
Cycling in particular was singled out as the most potentially damaging to hearing, exposing people to larger amounts of dangerous noise than any other way of getting around, with 14 per cent of measurements exceeding recommended levels.
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All the more reason NOT to doddle around at pedal-only, antique poop-mobile speeds. :mrgreen:
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Re: Reasons why the ebike is a world beater thread.

Post by markz » Nov 22, 2017 11:07 pm

That is why I listen to ear buds, ZZ Top and Stevie Ray Vaughn usually. Though today was more Metallica Black album. Quite enjoyed it, even riding in the dark with no lights.

I wonder if you are allowed to take bicycles on the trains in T.O.

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Re: Reasons why the ebike is a world beater thread.

Post by LockH » Nov 23, 2017 1:41 am

^^ Hehe... Have taken to wearing "headphones"... NOT actually connected to anything, but to "deaden" the sounds around me? "Traffic" high on list... but EVen to pretend NOT hearing babble - "conversation" - from passers-by. :wink: They "work" also as "ear muffs"... given that ambient temps are approaching next "spring" (hopefully... USUALLY "happens", anyway...)

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Re: Reasons why the ebike is a world beater thread.

Post by LockH » Dec 05, 2017 6:08 am

Smog Day rings out a warning: 18,000 people die every day from air pollution:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -pollution

Turns out, riding w/an assist, don't have to breath so hard. :mrgreen:
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