Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby whatever » Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:51 am

how long till crystalyte sell it to all and sundry...........mmmm
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby markcycle » Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:04 am

whatever wrote:how long till crystalyte sell it to all and sundry...........mmmm

You think
I'm about to place a order for my third container of motors I take a basic motor and turn it into this
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We may have a motor wound in China but EnerTrac builds wheels and traction systems for customers
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby johnhead@frontiernet.net » Fri May 20, 2011 8:39 am

Mark,
Great looking new wheel designs. I may have to design a LOWRIDER, two wheeler around one of these? It only takes time and $$$$! :-)
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby markcycle » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:09 am

The EnerTrac.net dual motor on the Catavolt race bike


here is the link to the full set

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjvmpAjw
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby SplinterOz » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:29 pm

Thanks for the link :) Next race is 4pm this afternoon. I will let you know any info as I get it.
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby markcycle » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:09 am

Forced air cooled thru the axle Dual motor mounted on the Catavolt Race bike.

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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby markobetti » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:08 pm

Congratulation to Marks motor and Catavolt team !
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby markcycle » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:25 pm

markobetti wrote:Congratulation to Marks motor and Catavolt team !

Thanks more hard work ahead as we tweak the bike for the next race. Its hard when the competition is running Lipo VS our heavy tin can headway cells
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby markobetti » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:11 am

Well that sucks since i dont think the fuel aka batteries should decide the winner .. You dont see in gas races diferent mixes of fuel ; at least i think so. Anyway i read on some e blog that catavolt motor is 10 kw continious; shouldnt it bee 20kw? Good luck on races to come
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby markcycle » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:34 am

markobetti wrote:Well that sucks since i dont think the fuel aka batteries should decide the winner .. You dont see in gas races diferent mixes of fuel ; at least i think so. Anyway i read on some e blog that catavolt motor is 10 kw continious; shouldnt it bee 20kw? Good luck on races to come


the motor I developed with forced air cooling is more like a 50KW motor
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby markobetti » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:52 am

:)
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby markobetti » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:57 am

http://green.autoblog.com/2011/01/21/en ... acing-big/
here it is.. just tell them if you like to fix the data
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby markobetti » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:58 am

just saw its January date..... just ignore me , its better :)))
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby Nuts&Volts » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:45 pm

markcycle wrote:
markobetti wrote:Well that sucks since i dont think the fuel aka batteries should decide the winner .. You dont see in gas races diferent mixes of fuel ; at least i think so. Anyway i read on some e blog that catavolt motor is 10 kw continious; shouldnt it bee 20kw? Good luck on races to come


the motor I developed with forced air cooling is more like a 50KW motor


peak rating, you saying? Anyways great job mark, i think that double stack motor will start kicking some azz soon. Having ridden a heavy bike with one of your standard motors, i am quite impressed and cant wait to follow your continued process
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby dangerzone » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:55 am

markcycle wrote:the motor I developed with forced air cooling is more like a 50KW motor


Hmmm, which controller setup did you plan to use..?
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby Jay64 » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:50 am

Damnit! I totally forgot you were in NY!!!!!!!! I was just up there racing my Harley-Davidson at New Jersey Motorsports Park. Man, I really wanted to stop by and see you guys whenever I made it to NY, but forgot that you were up there when I actually went. I definately like that double rear with the non spoke rim. I need to get a few of my builds done and sold, then talk to you about some builds with your motors.
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby rabar10 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:22 pm

So what's new on the hub motor front? Looks like the modded dual-602 did well on the Catavolt bike.

Are the DU-602 and DU-603 motors "list items" now? I don't see any info on your main site about them, just in forums and your blog thus far...

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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby rabar10 » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:40 pm

Saw some pictures on FB (link below) of the dual-motor GPRS bike at yesterday's NYC Pier 54 event for National Plug-In Day 2011- congrats on making it out there and offering rides! Looks like you made at least one good impression :)

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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby markcycle » Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:26 pm

rabar10 wrote:Saw some pictures on FB (link below) of the dual-motor GPRS bike at yesterday's NYC Pier 54 event for National Plug-In Day 2011- congrats on making it out there and offering rides! Looks like you made at least one good impression :)

Facebook: National Plug-In Day 2011 - taken by Michael Thwaite
This bike is a blast to ride.


We had a fun day We always offer rides its really why we go EV's are about the experience, if you don't try it then you can't understand, but once you do and I see the EV smile on someones face then I know I'm doing my part at spreading the word.
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby patrickza » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:47 am

How are the DU motors doing Mark. Any more news/stats/videos?
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Bladez Scoot, 450W motor putting out 3kW, Headway 38.4v 10AH, Lyen special controller: viewtopic.php?f=35&t=25872
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby Doctorbass » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:19 am

My friend Jean Luc bought from Mark the DU-602 :mrgreen:

We should get it soon and i'll try making some video of the build we are making (a GSXR1100) with headway cells...

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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby liveforphysics » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:26 am

markcycle wrote:We had a fun day We always offer rides its really why we go EV's are about the experience, if you don't try it then you can't understand, but once you do and I see the EV smile on someones face then I know I'm doing my part at spreading the word.



Great job Mark! That is the best way to make converts to electric. :-)
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby markcycle » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:56 am

liveforphysics wrote:
markcycle wrote:We had a fun day We always offer rides its really why we go EV's are about the experience, if you don't try it then you can't understand, but once you do and I see the EV smile on someones face then I know I'm doing my part at spreading the word.



Great job Mark! That is the best way to make converts to electric. :-)


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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby whatever » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:54 pm

I saw the catavolt in action at the huntervalley ev day, its an impressive machine indeed.
I'm just wondering, since it has to be cooled, all that heat generated is obviously energy lost,
is it not possible to wind the motor such that there is no heating generated? I'm guessing the windings are a
trade off in some way for torque/speed/heat generated.
Is it not possible to reduce heat loss by having windings that will handle the current ? ( thinkness/no. turns etc)
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Re: Motorcycle Hub Motor Part 2

Postby Doctorbass » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:57 am

Hey guys

My Friend Jean Luc got his motor from Mark today!

And.. installed on his own GSX1100 swing arm

Thanks Mark for the great work! :wink:

With 144V Headway and 600 amp controller it should be impressive!
( note that the TS cells are for another project!)


Here is some big hub motor porn! :twisted:

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