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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby Arlo1 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:31 pm

What a shity video they realy need to lern to zoom in on the traps!
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby AussieJester » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:46 pm

liveforphysics wrote:Hey, some people want to make beautifully done but painfully slow drag vehicles KiM.


:mrgreen: HAHA true true... well, makes a neat grocery getter albeit
not a very fast one.

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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby allen_okc » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:07 am

i guess the point of this machine is still missed here 8) this machine is my experiment to use as a learning device and have fun with it in the process, not to break world records or to be brutally fast, "which im sure you fellows could definitely build", hell i'll be lucky if it breaks 50 mph and thats OK.

i chose a 48 volt system because its safe and affordable unit to play with - if amps is torque and volts is speed, then yes i could have built a system like that - but i chose to build a unit that can used in a street machine, boosting it to a 72 volt chopper to be used as a daily transportation...

i tried to apologize to you and you still prefer to be petty, and that makes me feel sorry for you and to feel for those others who are trying to learn how to build a EV just to be greeted by rude and hateful remarks... but i can leave here knowing i have a EV that works and is on the street doing its thing and that i did meet some awesome people here...

so forgive me, im going to ride my grocery getter and have some fun with it - ahsta la tacos machachos - good day... :wink:
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby bigmoose » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:47 am

Allen, no need to depart. You stated your design goals, and they rightly should be yours.

We're actually a pretty friendly group here. Nice, detailed build execution and rideable, check! Quick, functional build execution, rideable and fast, check! Good design and analysis and no execution, also, check!

Different folks, different goals. Most excited and committed to their personal visions, also as it should be. These works of art and technology, do not get built without the emotional commitment to form.

So hang around, have some fun, share your ideas; and we will all learn and explore the boundaries together. Your build execution is detailed and skilled. There are points to learn from you also on how you did things.
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby allen_okc » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:53 am

Thank You BigMoose - you must be one of the awesome folks here, glad to meet you...
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby bigmoose » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:40 am

Some of the best folks here are the most passionate! Those two factors often go together with folks who are breaking boundaries, be it exploring a new territory, or understanding a new technology. We would be nowhere without the passion... if you think of it in that light, then it doesn't ever bother you...

I can't tell you the number of times I've had "passionate" exchanges with my colleagues as we "searched for the truth" in one technology or another. I remember in particular when we got a new director about 20 years ago and he though I and the Chief of Materials and Processes were bitter enemies as he watched our heated discussion over stress corrosion cracking of a certain alloy... (can you get nerdier than that? :twisted: ) He was shocked when he found out John and I were very, very good friends who socialized together... but when we explored the technological boundaries of safe flight, the gloves were off... :mrgreen:
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby allen_okc » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:58 am

i hear what your saying sir and Thank You...

the sad thing is i really like kim, because i think he is a very talented fabricator and has a lot of experience with EV's, and i understand he comes off strong on folks, but it just seems he is going over board with his comments, which makes it harder to appreciate him... and i have to say the same about liveforphysics...

it makes me feel like i would be better off keeping my projects to myself and my mouth shut and just hang out at candy store begging for candy...
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby TylerDurden » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:05 am

There are plenty more members that appreciate your efforts and contributions.
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby Arlo1 » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:21 am

Yeh Luke was a little rude Allen. But if you ever meet him you will find he is a very generous and positive person. He harassed me about my car having a red-line at 6200 rpm (stock srt4) when I was helping him get his Honda civic race car to Oregon (>10000 rpm redline built k20) But I knew it was all in fun. My srt4 serves a purpose like your drag bike. For me its still reliable 180000 km on it and close to stock and its my daily drive to drive out of town for work so I need it so keep running!
All I'm trying to say is Take the comments with a grain of salt we all need more people building electric vehicles slow or fast to help get the electric revolution off the ground!

PS there is a 50% chance you could challange luke to a race and win because he would just blow up :wink:
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby bigmoose » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:46 am

Arlo1 wrote:PS there is a 50% chance you could challange luke to a race and win because he would just blow up :wink:


That made me laugh!!! Arlo is right, Luke is pushing the envelope, so about half the time, his inventions go "poof!" The other half, you have to look for him with a telescope, he is so far ahead. That is how progress is made.

I wasn't referring to anyone by name, but I have had quite a few discussions with Luke, and I can say from experience you won't find a more compassionate and giving guy. He knows his stuff. He does a lot. Sometimes he gets right to the point... no harm, no foul in my book. He always thanks me for good tips, and never mentions again any bad advice I have given that didn't work out... he has helped me tremendously on my journey in life. I don't know AJ as well, but from all the tips he's given, the humor he has shared, and his life experience, I would bet he is a stand up guy also... and another chap I would enjoy riding with.
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby allen_okc » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:22 am

Thank You everyone - i'll keep that in mind...

the one thing i will say, if id built the bike the way luke and kim told me too, i would definitely have a world class drag racing bike, and i appreciate what they tried to do for me...

maybe i shouldnt have called it a drag bike, but rather a experimental vehicle, cause at the end of it all thats all it is...

i will keep everyone posted on its progress, but this winter she gets put on the shelf and stripped of all its equipment and transferred to an electric chopper with some hopefully cool additions. that project has already began, i bought a honda magna and ive stripped it of its components like the forks wheels, neck of the frame and bolt downs - the frame will be custom made along with a custom fiberglass body, and to keep the traditional look of a polished engine a custom built battery box...

a grain of salt is all i can do for now, but good advice - Thank You...
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby bigmoose » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:23 pm

Now we're cookin!
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby allen_okc » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:28 pm

another test run - the bike is running beautifully - it ran 41mph in a 390 foot stretch - i havent opened it up yet, but the next video made will be from the drag strip for a test run...




the chopper project is already underway, frame build this weekend from a honda vt500 shadow...

72 volts, altrax controller, 88 headway lifepo4 cells...

custom battery box...
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby allen_okc » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:47 pm

intro...

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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby allen_okc » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:02 pm

i would also like to mention that the lawless team "Shawn Lawless and the Predator" congratulated me on my attempt... its not fast but it is definitely fun...
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby allen_okc » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:08 pm

e chopper...
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby allen_okc » Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:27 am

i would also like to mention that EV Ed has been the biggest help to me here, i havent mention him here before, simply because of the attacks i received on this thread...

EV Ed is a professional drag racer who has a lot of experience in the EV world, he has been the greatest help to me in finding my way through all the how to's in building an electric motorcycle...

who allowed me to discover my own project in my own way...

Thank You ED...
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Re: EV Drag Racing

Postby JUICED » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:16 am

Blush, Blush...


You are doing all the work. I just throw in a suggestion or two.
It is going to be a great ride!!!
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