My rainbow colored 50cc moped mod!

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Re: My rainbow colored 50cc moped mod!

Postby sflorlando » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:55 am

Im always been confused about the wording of such things. Is this a scooter or a moped. This thing is basically a 50cc gas moped and I see those all over the place.
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Re: My rainbow colored 50cc moped mod!

Postby Pure » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:54 am

I think the term scooter came about in legal statue back in the 90s when those little gas powered razor (type) "scooters" were real popular here. I remember a big to do about them needing a legal classification. Here the 50cc "scooters" are mopeds.

Then again I could be totally wrong. But Lock's definition sure does fit those stand up scooters. I knew many of them that could easily do 45mph.
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Re: My rainbow colored 50cc moped mod!

Postby sflorlando » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:10 pm

Alright ill call it a 'emotoped' to add some more confusion.

Will probably add a sticker that says 200 watts on it somewhere. I am betting that I can just put a sticker that says 72 volts on it and tell them watts and volts are the same thing. Noobies. And yes my battery charges when I pedal.

Motor is now in the tire. Hopefully I will be able to put this thing together tonight.

The tire with motorized rim is so much more substantial than a bike tire. Thanks for all the info guys!

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Re: My rainbow colored 50cc moped mod!

Postby skyliner » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:51 pm

How many watts is the new motor capable of?
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Re: My rainbow colored 50cc moped mod!

Postby sflorlando » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:01 pm

The motor is rated at 750 watts. But I have heard it is capable of a lot more. I will definitely test that idea with my 10,000 watt capable controller.

I probably need to get a thermometer hooked up to this motor.... :twisted:

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Re: My rainbow colored 50cc moped mod!

Postby sflorlando » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:34 pm

the moped motors dropouts are too large compared to the dropouts on the moped. I'll measure them in a bit...but very slightly off
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Re: My rainbow colored 50cc moped mod!

Postby sflorlando » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:25 pm

I took some pics of the inside. Was kind of surprised to see it wasnt direct drive.... :shock:

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So I guess I will just use an angle grinder to file the TA's a bit wider. I panicked..sent a few PM's and now reassured!
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Re: My rainbow colored 50cc moped mod!

Postby Pure » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:23 pm

Unless you have a lot of material to remove or are very skilled with an angle grinder I would stick to a hand file. You can very easily take too much off leaving a loose fit.
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Re: My rainbow colored 50cc moped mod!

Postby sflorlando » Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:26 pm

motor is being sent back.

on the look out for another motor
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Re: My rainbow colored 50cc moped mod!

Postby Brentis » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:41 pm

sflorlando wrote:Hey guys! (in the asian guy "hangover voice")
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I want 50 mph, and a 50 mile per hour range



Hope you dont mind me using your pics & offering some suggestions?
I would consider this scoot closer to an eBicycle than a eScooter.
Low power, short range, lowish weight.
50 for 50. is a mighty task to ask of that frame.
Consider beefing it up or having someone else weld a bar in the center.
You lose the step through ease, but will look more like a motorcycle.
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I think you will find an unacceptable amount of flex riding that thing @ 50mph as is.
Front end flex, swingarm flex,braking flex, frame flex.
Should ride like an ole' Cadillac though.

My experience with a higher powered, better equipped, heavier scooter was lots of flex @ speed.
I put a couple hundred kms. on the Baja 500E.
I ripped off all the bodywork & ratted it out. Got alot of attn. @ 50+kph though.
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As for your dropout fitment consider what I am doing with ScootBike looks like you have enough meat on yours to try the Dogman Clamp.

As for motor I think Golden motors is best bang for the buck, especially as you already have a controller.
Only $250+ shipping for 3000w continuous, ? w peak.

Good luck. Keep us posted.
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Re: My rainbow colored 50cc moped mod!

Postby sflorlando » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:13 pm

Nice...thanks for the suggestions!

Ya Im going to scrap the idea of this scooter being my daily commuter. Im pretty sure id be laughed out of my profession if I rode my creation to work each day!

with that being said, do you think Id get extra support wrapping everything with some fiberglass to reinforce it.

Probably not worth it
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Re: My rainbow colored 50cc moped mod!

Postby sflorlando » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:50 pm

I seen my first ebike on east colonial this morning. Made me miss my bike.
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