PMW Shocker

[huskydave]

+1

With your experience they should get the bugs worked out. I hope it works well because of the advantages in this type of setup. It would be nice to get a seat of your pants review from a gearhead too.

[Sheriff Jon]

Here is a new picture just posted on the GoPed site.

[fechter]

Cool.

The motor sprocket looks like about as small as you can get for that chain size. Must give some good torque though...

[dragonfire]

so, are there any news regarding the "sneak peak" testdrive of "liveforphysics" yet ?

this setups looks comfortable enough even if still recovering from some injuries

[Malcolm]

I really like the look of this. Would love to get a closer look at the front hub and steering arrangement. Can't help thinking that a pair of those front swingarms could be used to build a very slippery tilting three wheeler – just need a linkage to transfer tilt from one side to the other.

The motor sprocket seems a long way from the pivot point for the rear swingarm, could there be problems with chain tension?

[Miles]

Hi Malcolm,

The motor is actually mounted on the swingarm.

[Malcolm]

The motor is actually mounted on the swingarm.

Doh, should've spotted that. Glad someone's awake round here

[Miles]

Easier to see with a change of levels:

[michaelplogue]

New video of the Shocker in action - well, not a lot of action, just a ride in the parking lot.....

[Ben]

The question is, can you do stoppies with CIDLI?

[liveforphysics]

Around 51 seconds something interesting happens to the front-end under mild brakeing.


They need somebody on that bike that knows how to turn a motocycle. I scrub off the outside edges of the tire on my gsxr.

I'm healed up, and ready to push anything 10/10ths. I need to schedule a time to fly down and see how she performs under a proper flogging

It would be great to have a set of dirt tires for her, along with a set of street rubber, so I can give a review of the performance under both conditions.

From looking at the tires, I'm thinking turn-in would be much sharper with a more narrow rear tire, but perhaps they are running that width to try to add stability.

I need to quit guessing and just fly down and find out

-Luke

[liveforphysics]

The question is, can you do stoppies with CIDLI?

I see no reason why it wouldn't stoppie like any other supermoto. My concern would be how well the dampening would work to prevent it pogo'ing back and taking weight off the front wheel during the stoppie, which results in a front tire skid, and generally a wreck. If the bike is light enough, making the transistions as smooth as possible should help to avoid that though. I will find out

[Malcolm]

Around 51 seconds something interesting happens to the front-end under mild brakeing

I noticed that too. I could well be wrong here, but it looks to me as if there would be a transition point in suspension adjustment where the bike dives or rises on braking, and that this transition point will depend on the spring rate, rider weight and dynamic state. Isn't that why swing arms are only used on the rear end of cars? (With the exception of the Citroen 2CV, which has interlinked leading and trailing arms).

[Ben]

To me it just seems like the pivot point should be below the front axle, so instead of the front wheel having to move up and towards an obstacle, it moves up and away from it.

I'm not sure how well it would tackle things like curbs and small children, but that's why we have Luke.

[dragonfire]

The CIDLi can do stoppies, at least on the gtr scooter application.

As for flying to the factory, i am unsure if the prototype resides there, but the Minden/ Tahoe airfield is within 5 minute walking distance to the factory