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Re: LiMnNi at BatterySpace

Postby gensem » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:10 am

I already spoke with the batspace guy like 3-4 months ago.
If nothing changed till now the best thing they are supposed to have is 20ah 10c continuous NCM wich are made by EIG. Not sure if the price is going to be good.
http://www.batteryspace.com/linicomn-cells-packs.aspx

for a plug and play low power setup maybe two of theses would work
http://www.bmsbattery.com/48v/166-48v-10ah-lithium-ion-electric-bicycle-battery-pack.html

5.6kg fully assembled 40amp continuos (20Ax2)

I would risk on two of thoses myself I, but I already have a ping.
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Re: LiMnNi at BatterySpace

Postby neptronix » Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:02 am

Those are made by EIG? really? Could explain the 1000 minimum order, and NO samples.... lady on the phone didn't even know about them.

Looked at those BMSbattery packs.. 2C is the max discharge rather than 2.5C from BatterySpace. :( :(
$62 for shipping brings them up to a total of $321. Good price!
I wonder if the QC is not so good? you know how BMSbattery is. Can be iffy. Lots of unhappy customers.
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Re: LiMnNi at BatterySpace

Postby gensem » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:25 am

neptronix wrote:Those are made by EIG? really? Could explain the 1000 minimum order, and NO samples.... lady on the phone didn't even know about them.

Looked at those BMSbattery packs.. 2C is the max discharge rather than 2.5C from BatterySpace. :( :(
$62 for shipping brings them up to a total of $321. Good price!
I wonder if the QC is not so good? you know how BMSbattery is. Can be iffy. Lots of unhappy customers.



Im 100% positive! At least they can buy from EIG.... btw whats was the cell price? 1k cells is not a high minimum order.

I think bms ncm are really 2c, like ping, but weight about half. I tought about at MAC with 48v 40a.. thats good already. Im running mine with 16s lifepo with 30a. BMS QC is bad if you compare to ping, but their batteries seens ok.

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Re: LiMnNi at BatterySpace

Postby Nuts&Volts » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:18 am

The picture of the batteryspace 20Ah cell doesnt quite look like an EIG cell but if you look at the data sheet and then at this data sheet (http://www.eigbattery.com/eng/product/3.jpg) you can see they just photoshopped out the name. I would be interested to know the price too

Edit: looks like batteryspace removed the 20Ah cell from their site?? shame
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Re: LiMnNi at BatterySpace

Postby liveforphysics » Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:11 am

EIG makes a good product. I visited the factory in Korea.
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Re: LiMnNi at BatterySpace

Postby Nuts&Volts » Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:37 am

liveforphysics wrote:EIG makes a good product. I visited the factory in Korea.


Yea I have some cells that are going into V1.5 of my electric motorcycle. Love the energy density. Same weight as my old GBS cells, but twice the energy and even less volume!
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Re: LiMnNi at BatterySpace

Postby maydaverave » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:32 pm

gensem wrote:for a plug and play low power setup maybe two of theses would work
http://www.bmsbattery.com/48v/166-48v-10ah-lithium-ion-electric-bicycle-battery-pack.html

5.6kg fully assembled 40amp continuos (20Ax2)

I would risk on two of thoses myself I, but I already have a ping.
I am interested in the bmsbattery 48V10Ah Li-Ion NiCoMn battery looks like a great compact solution for 20 amp controller setups. Has anybody bought from these guys lately their website looks much more professional maybe their business practices and products are too.
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Re: LiMnNi at BatterySpace

Postby neptronix » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:45 pm

Two calls. Two emails. They are clueless about the LNMC cells that they advertise no prices on..
Grrrrrrr....
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Re: LiMnNi at BatterySpace

Postby gensem » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:33 pm

Im starting to think that even EIG doesnt know how much they would charge for a cell.
Bad tongues are saying EIG has no actual cells available...
Ok... so who is going to be the first one to steal a nissan leaf? (haha)
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