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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby gogo » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:56 am

Wow, that's a great site FrankG. Gotta love the internet.
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:48 pm

Model of how some early electrics were built as "solenoid engines" after steam designs:
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from YouTube here:


Model of the electric "motor" built by Charles Grafton Page in 1838!:
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mascobe on youtube models some tiny (brass?whatever) solenoid motors that could serve in steampunk costume, weapons AND VEHICLES no problem
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http://ca.youtube.com/profile?user=mascobe&view=videos

These solenoids aren't especially efficient but the "reciprocating" sounds some of `em make is pretty fun too.

...just a note to any steampunks or wannabes that might be alongside ES
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:39 pm

hehe... it's just that so much of the tech I see the punks playing with reminds me of projects on ES <HA!>
Sure they are "steam" but electrics (EVs) are totally steam age!
I just think some of em look EV friendly in a road warrior sorta way...
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:19 pm

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Many EV ppl on ES are real gearheads. I mean that only in the nicest way :)

Steampunks drip w/costume made using gears
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Whirlygig Emoto

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:20 am

I know this EV has come up on ES elsewhere but I throw it in here just for completeness, and cause these are some of the better pics I've seen:
http://steampunkworkshop.com/steampunk-motorbike.shtml
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Re: Whirlygig Emoto

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:33 am

OTOH maybe better to have a stealth EV and not attract a lot of unwanted attention
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby thomas » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:21 am

looks like something from a Jules Verne book :)
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby evmotorcycle.org » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:28 am

They are great! Gotta love the Whirlygig! Oh… and the ladies! >:)
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby michaelplogue » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:37 pm

I love the Messerschmidt KR200's - three wheeled so it can be classified as a motorcycle, yet enclosed with a passenger seat. I'm seriously thinking that this may be my next e-project. I found a company in England that makes complete reproduction kits so you wouldn't need to find an original for modification.

By using Headway type cells, I've figured that I could get at least 9600 w/h worth of batteries (48V 200AH or 72V 100AH) in the main cabin while keeping the rear seat. Without the back seat that could be easily doubled.

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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:53 pm

michaelplogue wrote:I love the Messerschmidt KR200's

Sweet.
Not steam but as I understand it totally steampunk. Ya might have to install port-starboard kerosene running lights and a couple of bit of brass but as "Captain Nemos personal Land Yacht" (submersible too of course) you would only need some costume. Some steampunk are pirate and some air pilots etc so the Messerschmidts are totally .... well, I suspect a good fit <grin>


What evmotorcycle.org said "Oh… and the ladies! >:)"
Point is, women are totally into the steampunk scene. Much more than say... the EV scene? <hehe>
Ya know, if you respect a woman that knows how to handle tools and pitchs in
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:47 pm

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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:03 pm

Granville Bradshaw was the genius behind quite a few special engine designs, the best known being the ABC flat twins, the oilcooled singles and the engine of the Panther Panthette. The Skootamota has a single cylinder 123cc OHV engine, also a Bradshaw design.
The engine sits above the rear wheel which it drives by chain. The pansaddle and spacious footboard provide ample comfort for therider. The ABC Skootamota can be seen as the rare archetype of the modern motor scooter.
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:10 pm

michaelplogue wrote:I found a company in England that makes complete reproduction kits...

Any link BTW?
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby michaelplogue » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:22 pm

Lock wrote:
michaelplogue wrote:I found a company in England that makes complete reproduction kits...

Any link BTW?


http://www.modernmicrocars.co.uk/prices.html

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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:35 pm

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Re: Horses of Iron

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Trikes

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:45 pm

Such nice curating... poetic really
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That large "third" wheel(-er, middle) reminds me of the EV ppl here with the hots for RC motors... Sooooo much easier to drive a third (tinyish) third wheel?
Y/N?
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:46 pm

michaelplogue wrote:Omega

OMG :D
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:51 pm

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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:58 pm

what he said
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:13 pm

michaelplogue wrote:
Lock wrote:
michaelplogue wrote:I found a company in England that makes complete reproduction kits...

Any link BTW?

http://www.modernmicrocars.co.uk/prices.html
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Thats an OMG *and* a WTF!!! written as OMGWTF
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby michaelplogue » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:17 pm

Lock wrote:Thats an OMG *and* a WTF!!! written as OMGWTF


I'm in complete agreement! A bit spendy, but I think overall these would make a great project.
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:32 pm

I'm sorry. Don't usually swear `cause... for the usual reasons I guess.
Just that my younger bro and I doubled in the back seat of a Messerschmidt for a couple of years in the early 1960's in England.
Also, Omega?! Extra Nice. hehe
So I have soft spots for Messerschmidt and steampunk... well, it was the Super Messerschmidt 200 that stopped my heart...
Tks agains! Just fun confluence
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Re: Trikes

Postby Zoot Katz » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:37 pm

Lock wrote:Such nice curating... poetic really
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That large "third" wheel(-er, middle) reminds me of the EV ppl here with the hots for RC motors... Sooooo much easier to drive a third (tinyish) third wheel?
Y/N?


Trikes? Yikes! The tadpole reminds me of the wheel-chair trike some local freaks built. Okay, they're my friends so I'll go gentle because the thing was a blast to ride a few blocks on the level if you were careful on the turns. Climbing with passenger wasn't as much fun. Basically it was a wheel-chair rudely attached to the fork. The treadle powered chain-drive, maybe belt drive, on the out rigger is probably lots of fun to ride with what looks like articulated tiller steering.

It's the Pedersen after which I lust. That bike design is still in production today.
Undoubtedly the most comfortable bicycle I've ever ridden, and it wasn't even my size. It makes you wonder why all bicycles aren't made like this.
To improve my storage situation I'd trade my two classic all euro-equipped, hand crafted, race and touring bikes for a slightly used Pedersen in the right size. Decent ones can be had new for under $4000 CND. Mine would probably be closer to six with a Rohloff rear and SON dynamo front hubs.
Both with disc brakes. Nice mix of old and new.
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Re: Horses of Iron

Postby Lock » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:44 pm

Could be steampunk but where to put the badderies?
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Not the White One. The Red One... :)
OK the White One is good too
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