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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

Postby EVDragRacer » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:26 am

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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

Postby Jeremy Harris » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:35 am

EVDragRacer wrote:We are using Headway Batteries, much easier to build.
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Yes, there are several threads here about screwing together Headways, but this thread is about putting packs together using cylindrical cells that aren't Headways, PSI or other cell with either threaded rod or threaded socket terminations.

The big advantage is that this makes for a simple way to make up A123 packs, which will massively out perform something like the Headways, with their relatively poor discharge C rate and high Ri. Normally, the only safe way to build A123 packs is to resistance weld tabs to the ends, like the old Headways. Some people have got away with soldering terminations to A123s, but it's not really ideal and tedious for building a big pack.

It'd be nice if we could get A123 cells with nice terminations, but we're pretty much stuck with plain end caps. Their performance is leagues ahead of other LiFePO4 cells though, so the effort of making mounting systems such as those in this thread is worthwhile.

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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

Postby EVDragRacer » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:56 am

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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

Postby EVDragRacer » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:59 am

I agree, if A123 Batteries had "screw type" terminal ends life would be much easier. We are satisfied with the Headway Battery for now. :roll:

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EVDragRacer wrote:We are using Headway Batteries, much easier to build.
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Yes, there are several threads here about screwing together Headways, but this thread is about putting packs together using cylindrical cells that aren't Headways, PSI or other cell with either threaded rod or threaded socket terminations.

The big advantage is that this makes for a simple way to make up A123 packs, which will massively out perform something like the Headways, with their relatively poor discharge C rate and high Ri. Normally, the only safe way to build A123 packs is to resistance weld tabs to the ends, like the old Headways. Some people have got away with soldering terminations to A123s, but it's not really ideal and tedious for building a big pack.

It'd be nice if we could get A123 cells with nice terminations, but we're pretty much stuck with plain end caps. Their performance is leagues ahead of other LiFePO4 cells though, so the effort of making mounting systems such as those in this thread is worthwhile.

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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

Postby EVDragRacer » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:55 am

Guys I have a very good question, can you build larger packs with the Enerland "Pre-built" packs and connect each "unit" in series to up the battery box AH and then connect each battery box in series to up the system voltage?

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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

Postby PedalingBiped » Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:00 pm

Tis a beatiful battery, but your in the wrong thread. this is for cylindrical batteries.
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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

Postby grifftek » Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:42 am

Hi Guys

Im a noob to the electric bicycle hobby and have just started building a batery pack for an a2b metro bike. I ran across this thread and liked the ideas presented here. If I can find some affordable cells imight try to make some of the cell holders like the nylon versions shown here. I have been reading through the various postings here on es for a long time now and have only barely scratched the surface of the information contained here, just amazing!

if anyone is interested you can see the battery pack im building here:
http://tinyurl.com/4mzz5jm

I will also be attempting to rebuild the internal battery pack with fresh cells once I finish the external pack. This will be much tougher as I will need to spot weld the cells together so I need to make the custom tabs to weld to the cells. http://tinyurl.com/4gxyvow


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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

Postby pedler » Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:06 pm

hi i have two battery packs ea. 24v 10ah originally from the currie enlighten this is the long curved pack that slides into the frame, i don't know if they are any good since they have been sitting so long , i dont know how i can charge them . voltage meter shows little life. i took one pack apart .does anyone think they can be brought back to life,and salvaging enough to make 1 pack for a currie i zip............will watch for suggestions thanx :?:
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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

Postby umejopa » Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:34 pm

I build test box for 32157-M1 and find this after that :D
Bay them from
http://www.a123rc.com/goods-474-High+Qu ... 57%29.html
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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

Postby Marco Norway » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:19 am

:oops: I am a noob to the electrik part of my bild
so I need som help :roll:

I want to make some 48V battery pac's for my EV bike
it is one with a 450 watt motor
I both this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... AQ:US:1123
I am thinking to us 15 pcs. of this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-PCS-High-po ... 0824865118
to make the 48V is this anough to make a 15-20 minnis ride?


and houw big a charger do I need to charge this "pack"

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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

Postby kevinw » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:12 pm

nevermind
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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

Postby 999zip999 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:01 pm

I don't know what A123 replacment cells mean as far as quality in the ebay add. I think my next battey buy will be 32157's just triing to add up the price for a 2p pack @ 16.50 ea. plus shipping ect.

How about screw tops
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Re: Building cylindrical battery pack for Dummy!

Postby veloman » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:53 pm

Those keystone 204 snap on battery clips are .12ea if you buy 1000. That's $120 just for clips. Any cheaper options? I need 540 for a laptop cell pack of 270 cells.
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