davec wrote:used/recycled/manufacture defects? no idea.hence the reason we are getting them so cheap. case closed.
Thank goodness the case is closed, I hope that is the last we hear of your opinons on the topic. We have all heard your concerns, and I highly, highly recommend that you do not purchase any of these a123 pouches because it is obvious they don't meet your design requirements. I don't think anyone here has a need or desire to convince you otherwise.
I am an early adopter who was been using the a123 Prisimatics in a variety of applications for 2+ years. I recently bought (110) cells from VictPower, and they are NEW, and of better quality than the cells I bought 2 years ago. Unfortunately, my real-world testing does not align with your paper arguments.
Even if your assertions had some basis in reality, we have been using used/recycled/manufacturing defect cells in this hobby since Endless Sphere started, so I STILL wouldn't think twice about buying them at this price.
Now that we have heard your opinions, and you feel the case is closed, for the rest of us who find the cells DO meet our design requirements, do you mind if continue to purchase, use, and discuss them? Or will you not be happy unless we send our pristine unused cells back to China and burn our fully functioning packs on a pyre built from puffed lipo packs shorted red-to-black?
PS - I thought it important to share a picture of the pack you built from these cells; it looks like you may have gotten crap no-tab cells from somewhere, and are projecting that ALL a123 is like that. Note that I got this picture from your sales thread, because you haven't bothered to share the build thread or for that matter contribute any content to this forum - most of your 42 posts here are trash-talking the a123 prisimatics. Despite that, this is what you have to say about "used/recycled/manufacture defects" when YOU use them:
he tested a bunch of these cells from the batch before selling them to make sure they deliever 20ah- there is a video of him testing the cells over 10c with a cba- they are impressive
they've been used a few times back and forth- i dont think i put more than 50 cycles on them - but i can say these are the best cells i've ever owned next to lipo
PPS, you know that generic foam you used is HIGHLY flammable, right? Essentially, Gasoline in stasis? Like a good spark could light the whole thing up?
Edit: It appears that davec was so embarassed by his pack, that he deleted the picture. Fortunately, I saved a copy in my "Hall of Awefulness" so this gem would not be lost.