New electric mountain bike frame by Phasor Cycles

[Alan B]

Nice dropouts.

Axles come in varying diameters. The flats are pretty much standard at 10mm but the common diameters are 12, 14 and 16 mm.

How do you plan to accomodate this? Looks like making three sizes of the axle spacer block would be easy.

[Tench]

I have not read the whole thread so it may have been mentioned before but it seems to me that the frame will have the same problem as other bikes of similar design in that it wont have very good (inadequate) steering lock, it needs to have a short parralel narrow section behind the head stock to allow for fork clearance when used with triple clamp forks.

Like the drop outs though!

Simon.

[kfong]

Nice, I like the new setup. Looks like plenty of room for batteries. Are you going to also sell just the frame and swing arm for some of us die hard DIY who already have good setups but might go for a frame upgrade? I look forward to the test results. Is the frame geometry closer to a DJ style, all mountain and less DH style? What's the head angle and wheel sizes planned for this geometry? How has the BMC been holding up for you. I'm still happy with mine after 3 years of trail riding.

[dpearce]

Kfong, most of your questions can be answered here

http://www.phasorcycles.com

The BMC motor is still holding up, although one of the batteries on that bike is out of commission while the BMS is being replaced, hope to have it running again soon with this one.

The frame weighs in at 11.5lbs, and 15.2lbs with swingarm, or about 3 lbs heavier than the carbon fiber frame / aluminum swingarm

Just a couple more small things to weld before it can be assembled, disassembled, painted, reassembled, and finally ridden!

[ohzee]

Looking real good.

[Deutch420]

Looks great. What color scheme are you going with?

Any pictures with the side panals on? Assuming there will be side panals..

Also, not trying to copy the bomber but·; is there a chance u could make a cutout (on the top of the frame ) for the buttons and screen of the CA? This way we can mount them internally wile maintaining a good view of the screen? Maybe by request only. something like this: (on my tablet, so i had to use paint.. )

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[kfong]

Good to know your motor is handling your abuse. I'm hard on mine but not at the voltage levels you were running at.

How about detailed photos of the swing arm and frame bearing. Worried that there isn't enough supporting structure in that area. The rest looks great.

[Whiplash]

Awesome so far! I can't wait to see it all done!! Hurry up! LOL!

By the way, maybe I missed it, what is the cost looking like for the bare frame un-painted?? ------- EDIT: Found it thanks!-----


This thing and a Cro-Motor with around 44.4V and like 35AH would be an AWESOME high speed trail machine!!

[danimal]

This is from earlier this week. The components all fit great and now it is off to powder coating.

"What color scheme are you going with?"
"Any pictures with the side panals on?"
"is there a chance u could make a cutout (on the top of the frame ) for the buttons and screen of the CA?"

We are going with an antifreeze green powder coating, Then we will also post some photos of the panels and bottom bracket details (for Kfong)!

The new cycle analyst (bigger screen) does not fit in the width of this frame. If you still have an older version CA it will fit, and we can discuss cut-outs.

[o00scorpion00o]

Awesome so far! I can't wait to see it all done!! Hurry up! LOL!

By the way, maybe I missed it, what is the cost looking like for the bare frame un-painted?? ------- EDIT: Found it thanks!-----


This thing and a Cro-Motor with around 44.4V and like 35AH would be an AWESOME high speed trail machine!!

Cromotor fast on 44 volts ?

[o00scorpion00o]

This is from earlier this week. The components all fit great and now it is off to powder coating.

"What color scheme are you going with?"
"Any pictures with the side panals on?"
"is there a chance u could make a cutout (on the top of the frame ) for the buttons and screen of the CA?"

We are going with an antifreeze green powder coating, Then we will also post some photos of the panels and bottom bracket details (for Kfong)!

The new cycle analyst (bigger screen) does not fit in the width of this frame. If you still have an older version CA it will fit, and we can discuss cut-outs.

Looking good!

[istboardz]

NICE!! I want one!
Ship to Singapore?

[bzhwindtalker]

That's a very neat frame! downhill spec frame with electric power in mind

[dbaker]

Beautiful job What is wheel base and what does it weigh without batteries?

[Spacey]

Damn that is looking good!

[Hyena]

Nice.
How structural are the side covers ?
If one wanted a low key looking build that didn't stand out and only had limited range, would it be possible to just fit batteries to the down tube and seat tube section of the frame ? Thus maintaining a hollow triangle ?
Granted, you'd need a way to hold the batteries in place, and I"m guessing velcro ain't gonna cut it...

[GCinDC]

Granted, you'd need a way to hold the batteries in place, and I"m guessing velcro ain't gonna cut it...

wouldn't you use an inner tube, H?

looks fabulicious.

[Hyena]

haha you must be psychic, just 5 minutes ago (2am here) I strapped a controller and a handful of lipo to an old bike with inner tubes to test a new kit I'm testing and tuning
Duct tape is too permanant, inner tubes are where it's at for quick test rides and being ghetto fabulous

[kfong]

Damn that looks nice.

This is from earlier this week. The components all fit great and now it is off to powder coating.

"What color scheme are you going with?"
"Any pictures with the side panals on?"
"is there a chance u could make a cutout (on the top of the frame ) for the buttons and screen of the CA?"

We are going with an antifreeze green powder coating, Then we will also post some photos of the panels and bottom bracket details (for Kfong)!

The new cycle analyst (bigger screen) does not fit in the width of this frame. If you still have an older version CA it will fit, and we can discuss cut-outs.

Looking good!

[Alan B]

Get a few rolls of 3M Vet-Wrap. Better than inner tubes or duct tape...

[Whiplash]

Awesome so far! I can't wait to see it all done!! Hurry up! LOL!

By the way, maybe I missed it, what is the cost looking like for the bare frame un-painted?? ------- EDIT: Found it thanks!-----


This thing and a Cro-Motor with around 44.4V and like 35AH would be an AWESOME high speed trail machine!!

Cromotor fast on 44 volts ?

For trails? I would assume that would be about 30ish MPH, so yes that's fast on a trail...

[Andje]

Just found this.
Jaw is on the floor.

My ONE complaint is price; not because it's unfair, I just think it is very close to "uncompetitive". If you look at 2nd hand dh bikes for frames (something vaguely comparable), you can find many in NA on pinkbike for under 1500, and that is usually the whole bike with every component including a frame that was 500+$ new. It could never compare to what you are offering directly, but I will pay almost anything for this hobby, and I could never justify 1400 on just the frame, no matter how perfect. It's a case of being a mechanical hobbyist and being able to build things going along with the hobby, and then being limited by funds on all these builds. I can build a battery rack, but not batteries, if you catch my drift. So if I have to start justifying costs, I don't NEED a perfect frame with an internal mounted solution, I just want one (o boy do I want one). For me this will remain a lottery dream until the price comes down to the 500-800 range, and I think that as a 26 y/o white male in Ontario who is a young college student I can say that that sort of price really would open up your market hugely, same way this larger one I think shuts down a good chunk of it.
Someone once told me; never tell them the price until they have ridden it. I think that was the sagest advice I've ever heard about EV's.

[pwbset]

I hope you can get your production up to speed by the summer riding season. Looking for a frame by April-May and this one is a serious contender for me. Keep us posted. Thanks.

[o00scorpion00o]

Just found this.
Jaw is on the floor.

My ONE complaint is price; not because it's unfair, I just think it is very close to "uncompetitive". If you look at 2nd hand dh bikes for frames (something vaguely comparable), you can find many in NA on pinkbike for under 1500, and that is usually the whole bike with every component including a frame that was 500+$ new. It could never compare to what you are offering directly, but I will pay almost anything for this hobby, and I could never justify 1400 on just the frame, no matter how perfect. It's a case of being a mechanical hobbyist and being able to build things going along with the hobby, and then being limited by funds on all these builds. I can build a battery rack, but not batteries, if you catch my drift. So if I have to start justifying costs, I don't NEED a perfect frame with an internal mounted solution, I just want one (o boy do I want one). For me this will remain a lottery dream until the price comes down to the 500-800 range, and I think that as a 26 y/o white male in Ontario who is a young college student I can say that that sort of price really would open up your market hugely, same way this larger one I think shuts down a good chunk of it.
Someone once told me; never tell them the price until they have ridden it. I think that was the sagest advice I've ever heard about EV's.

For me having all the batteries in the frame is a big + that are hidden behind panels, you can hide all the wiring and controller. Then the droupouts would also be suitably strong to not have to worry about torque arms. + it will look good and full suspension. If these things are important, then I think people would buy it. I couldn't afford it now because of all the money I've spent so far on my bike, and the fact I would have to spend another 1000 Euro's or so for quality parts, then new controller, motor, batteries. You are talking another 2000 maybe 4500 Euro's in total. But you would have one really fun bike. The other thing I forgot about was shipping, and to Europe I'm betting it will be very expensive!!!

You can get a 2nd hand downhill bike for maybe 600-700 euro's but then you have the hassle of torque arms, and trying to mount the batteries!

[oatnet]

My ONE complaint is price; not because it's unfair, I just think it is very close to "uncompetitive".

+1

Beautiful frame, nicely though out, and the labor involved is obvious. However, even though I have a generous budget for eBikes, I am not ready to meet the price tag. There probably is a niche of users that will, though, so best of luck with it!

-JD