Keywin E-bike Lab Parameter Designer Software Manual-ver 1.2

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Post by ambroseliao » Jun 05, 2012 1:52 pm

Thanks. Can you see a maker's name or perhaps a model number designation. At first glance, this does not look like an Infineon based controller. The board is filled with components where Infineons tend to be more sparse. I have a couple of photos here:

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Post by Mowolar » Jun 05, 2012 2:36 pm

I can't seem to find any manufacturer info.

Attached a picture of the backside of the mainboard.

On the controller casing it says:
"Controller for brushless motor: ACZ120112
CE: SHEM01011014901
EBC-KTCO67C BST-LSG12039001"
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Post by ambroseliao » Jun 05, 2012 3:00 pm

I don't recognize it, however someone here must know more about this controller!
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Re: Keywin E-bike Lab Parameter Designer Software Manual-ver

Post by electraflyit » Jul 06, 2012 6:58 am

Hi,

Can you run different versions of XPD on the same computer?
I have EB206 and EB306 controlers.
Or is there a version that will program both?

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Post by Alan B » Jul 06, 2012 10:19 am

XPD is just a python program. Two versions should be fine. Just don't run both at the same time as they need access to the one serial port.

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Post by anpaza » Jul 09, 2012 4:33 pm

electraflyit wrote: Or is there a version that will program both?
There's one already:
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... 25#p607217

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Post by Alan B » Jul 09, 2012 5:24 pm

anpaza wrote:
electraflyit wrote: Or is there a version that will program both?
There's one already:
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... 25#p607217
Nice Upgrade!

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Post by vendybiker » Jul 26, 2012 2:51 pm

To Mowolar:
You can not program it with Keywin´s software, but you can do some modification when you connect those contacts to GND:
X - regeneration
Q - cruise control
A3 - brake or switch on side stand on the scooter (throttle is in function just after release)

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Post by DALBYNATOR » Aug 03, 2012 11:18 pm

Hi guys,

I just bought my controller, and was hoping to get this software setup for programming in the future.
Unfortunately, when I download any of the files in the first post, then try and unzip them,
WinRAR says that the archive is corrupt, :| and I can't do anything with them :cry:
Does anyone know a reliable link to download this from?

Thanks in advance, Tom.
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Post by alsmith » Aug 04, 2012 4:49 am

DALBYNATOR wrote:Hi guys,

I just bought my controller, and was hoping to get this software setup for programming in the future.
Unfortunately, when I download any of the files in the first post, then try and unzip them,
WinRAR says that the archive is corrupt, :| and I can't do anything with them :cry:
Does anyone know a reliable link to download this from?

Thanks in advance, Tom.
I don't have the software (not sure which one of the previously linked versions you mean), but sometimes I have problems downloading files in one browser but it is fine when downloaded using a different one.
One reason can be that if you get a bad download on the first attempt your browser may use your cached copy rather than download again so you keep getting the same faulty file even though you think that your downloading again. You can either empty the browser cache or force your browser to redownload, ignoring your previously downloaded copy.
It can also sometimes be a corrupt copy in your internet service providers cache- forcing a redownload may make the server redownload too- if it doesn't then download it a friends computer and email it to yourself or put it on a usb drive.

good luck

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Post by tourtoe » Aug 05, 2012 5:18 am

DALBYNATOR wrote:Hi guys,

I just bought my controller, and was hoping to get this software setup for programming in the future.
Unfortunately, when I download any of the files in the first post, then try and unzip them,
WinRAR says that the archive is corrupt, :| and I can't do anything with them :cry:
Does anyone know a reliable link to download this from?

Thanks in advance, Tom.
I had the same problems, try this source (pick the appropriate version, and scroll to the bottom) : http://www.ebike-solutions.de/de/Shop/C ... mmierkabel

I had success with the driver files from the EB2xx, not EB3xx. The software itself seems OK in both cases.

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Post by veloman » Aug 20, 2012 12:26 am

Has anyone had issues programming Infineon controllers like the EB309 with this software? I got a brand new EB309 and set the current limit to 28 battery amps (which means you select 14amps on the programming screen). It worked fairly well, and the peak current I got was 31amps - close enough. Then I tried to dial it down and set it to 24amps, but it peaked at 13amps! I kept raising it and retrying a bit higher and wouldn't pull more than about 13amps. Not until I set it to 48amps (24 on the screen) did it pull 25amps peak.

Sometimes on my Eb312, the limit fluctuates, some days 24amps, some days 26amps. But this above issue is really annoying to be off that much. What is going on? Is 25amps actually 25 on the programming screen for some controllers? But remember, at first time programming it, it was pretty close.
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Post by DAND214 » Aug 20, 2012 9:33 am

All I know is, if i set the amps at 40 I see 40+. That depends on the block time .1 or.5 will change the peak draw.

If I set it to 20 amps thinking it's half of what I want I get 20 and a lame ride. 20 amps on 15s LiPo with a MAC 8t is like my old CUTE 128's on 48v LiFePo's.

So you are saying, when I set the battery current at 60 amps I should see 120!? Bye Bye MAC.

All I know is I see what I set it at or close. This is peak or MAX AMPS on the CA.
Maybe running a CA-DP is differant that a CA-SA. I run a SA.

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Post by veloman » Aug 20, 2012 12:01 pm

Interesting. I run a CA DP and the peak amps on it are way more than the peak amps on my Turnigy watt meter, when riding my 9c. On my Mac, they are only about 20% higher on the CA. The CA peak amps don't seem to mean anything to me, as it must be only for a millisecond and you don't actually notice the power and don't see a matching wattage for it. Peak amps on the Turnigy seem to correlate well with performance.


Up until the last week, I was riding a 12.5 battery amp setting on the programming screen, and getting about 25amps peak on the Turnigy. (I'll pull that the entire way up a steep hill, so it's real). But now on the new EB309, it's all wacky and seems to be a 1:1 ratio for programming amps.

Update: After reading the first page, I think the reason for the above is due to selecting a different board - EB309 vs EB312.
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Post by DAND214 » Aug 20, 2012 2:42 pm

Differant boards will throw off the controller. I tried a 6 fet on 12 fet setting and all it did was shut down. Did the opposite and the 12 fet set to 6 fet and it was so weak i couldn't belive it.

I don't look at the peak draw much unless I set the current high and am riding WOT for a longer time.

I did learn gear motors like less amps both battery and phase and DD's like the opposite. The Mac 8t on 40 amp/ 90phase is stronger than my 9x7 9C at 65 and 210. Both on the same bike, no changes other than the controller. Same battery, tires and such.

I still wish we could get tha actual factory settings before changing them. Got screen shots from Keywin for 6/9/12 fet. They showed 100% throttle in all positions but untill I flashed the controller it had a 3 speed setting using a momontary switch to change speeds.
And the amp settings were not at all possible. the 12 fet was set lower than the 9 and the 6was wrong too.

Why can't we read the setting, some way?

Dan

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Post by korpin » Dec 09, 2014 9:12 pm

got cable for programming Lyen controller...found keywin software....transmitted got regen now...BUT power cuts out around 30-35 mph only seems to happen with full throttle get power surges if I back up on throttle just a bit it stops......any suggestions? :?: not sure if I did something wrong??? was going close to 50 before I downloaded keywin

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Post by cwah » Dec 26, 2014 4:57 pm

Hello,

I purchased this controller but I can't see anywhere to plug it to my computer:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product ... 00711.html

Any idea how to do that?

My regen is set to minimum and I'd like to have the highest value possible for regen.

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Post by alsmith » Dec 28, 2014 6:29 pm

cwah wrote:Hello,

I purchased this controller but I can't see anywhere to plug it to my computer:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product ... 00711.html

Any idea how to do that?

My regen is set to minimum and I'd like to have the highest value possible for regen.

Thanks
Where does it say programmable- I couldn't find it.

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Post by cwah » Dec 28, 2014 8:37 pm

Kevin the seller told me it's programmable and linked me here :/
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Post by Motobikewheels » Jan 07, 2015 7:28 am

cwah wrote:Kevin the seller told me it's programmable and linked me here :/

Any pics of the board?

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Post by DAND214 » Jan 07, 2015 10:14 am

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Could be wrong but I think it says it all in the last 3 words. MADE TO ORDER.

Yes, it's programable. By the factory.

Sure hope I'm wrong. Would love to try one, but than again, I like to be able to adjust it when I need to.

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Post by MrV » Nov 22, 2016 6:44 pm

Hi I tried to D/load and open the Zip files in the first post of this thread and they seem to be corrupted
I tried to repair them with zip repair pro but it shows that some of the files are potentially unfixable :(
Would you mind please re zipping them and uploading them again. So I can have a go at changing the parameters of my controller

Thanks in advance


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Re: Keywin E-bike Lab Parameter Designer Software Manual-ver

Post by amberwolf » Nov 23, 2016 1:06 am

You might look up Anpaza's XPD thread instead, it'll probably work better. :)

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