Hello Tom, and thanks for posting all the nice pix of your bike. I actually read your buildup and marveled over that push trailer. That was a sweet piece of work. I am actually considering doing something similar here, but I am limited in what I can get away with here. I live in an apartment building on the second floor. So whatever I make, has to be light enough and small enough for me to carry it up and down the stairs. When I build up the Spoiler, I'll have to use a battery pack in a frame bag I can remove after each ride. I can barely get it up the stairs now!
Another developement is in the works. I got a email from a fellow on Craigslist, says he will deliver the Schwinn OCC Chopper I offered to buy next Friday, after 5 P.M. for $150.
That bike has a steel frame, and monotube forks with steel dropouts. A much better starting point for a Echopper. I have actually considered wrapping my Spoiler in plastic and saving it for posterity. It's in such good shape, and is rare as Guiness served by Playboy bunnies here!
Like you I am a pensioner, and must rub pennies for luck, so progress is slow. That just gives me time to learn more about the hobby, and meet wonderfull people like yourself.
I think Spoiled Spoiler must have blown himself up, as he hasn't replied to my post on his thread yet.
I'm interested in those Turnigy cells, are you going to daisychain them into packs, for high voltage? How much are they? Where do you get them? What are the specs for volts? Show me your solution for rear indicators, and switching. I really like the LED tail lights on the Spoiler with the fringes on the bars. That looks like it would work for me too. We'll have to get together on the Isle of Man, and have an Echopper TT event sometime eh! Drop us a line anytime mate.
Brian L. KC9DAK.
Hi Brian,How it all started.
.... One mans journey From trailer addiction to electric bikes.
A couple of years ago (Aug 2008) a mate of mine got one of those trailer tents and we headed of to Skye to test it out for 4 days. It was a great 4 days, the weather! Well while the rest of the UK was getting flooded with torrential downpours Skye was getting hit by a heatwave
Rather than post a long winded story I'll just link to the trailer page of a forums and you can read it at you leisure.http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?326435-The-post-your-trailer-thread./page8
The link above has some great trailers, bought and homemade. I never cease to be amazed by some of the contraptions that guys come up with.
Of course after I built my first trailer I stood back looking at it thinking thats the bees knees. Its when I now look back at my first attempt at a trailer and compare it with something like these...Right click and View image to see full pic.
Mine doesnt seem the bees knees any more but just a cobbled together pile of junk with wheels
I had plans to build a camping/fishing/touring type trailer similar to the ones above Iv'e just never gotten around to finishing it....
Having researched trailers of all shapes n' sizes I saw a picture on a forums of a trailer with a motor attached!!! This got me thinking. Hummm I could fit a motor to my trailer. I then started looking at push trailers, pretty soon I had all the bitsI needed and had myself a push trailer. The reason behind the push trailer was I didn't want to hack up/drill holes etc in my new mountian bike, the towing frame I made up just bolts on and I can take it off leaving my bike untouched. I had thought about putting the motor on my bike but it looked a complicated afair. I then saw the Spoiler on ebay and as soon as I seen the gap behind the seatpost and back wheel I was sold - in ideal place to stick a motor. Sadly the motor I have is just to big to fit in that gap, to line it up with the sprocket (sprocket in place of rear disc rotor) it interferes with the peddle chain
So I had to put it where it is now. I may try it in that gap again and see if I can get it to fit.
As with my mountian bike I really didnt want to drill holes or hack it up in any way, the motor frame I had my mate weld up bolts onto the rear axle, I only had to drill two holes in the aluminium dropouts to stop the tow/motor frame from moving....
I have since added two struts that bolt onto where the Mudguard/Fender attaches to further strengthen my tow frame/Motor mount. Towing my trailer is fine....
Of course while reseaching ebikes and motors etc you eventually end up here at ES
. A great bunch of guys with some nice builds. Its here you learn all the in's and out's of building an electric bike.Note...
All pics of Spoiler - Trailer are in various states of build.
First off I must tell you that when it comes to Volts/Watts/Amps, what I know you could probably write on a grain of sand and still have room for an encyclopedia
Im only just starting to learn about these lippo batteries and all the gubbings that are involved. They look complicated with all the boards/wiring thats needed. It was only a few weeks ago while reading a thread on another forums that I asked about these type of batteries. Thud
(a member here also) pointed me in the right direction. See this post....http://motorbicycling.com/f55/feedback-request-these-blue-lipo-batteries-23402.htmlLIGHTS - INDICATORS.
While building my trailer(s) I thought it best to have lights etc, so I went looking for something cheap and simple. I got a few of these of ebay to use as rear lights and indicators...For back of bike box. Rear lights n' indicators.
Red N' Orange. For back of trailer - Indicators
I also have dismatled one of these and drilled holes in my bike box for the leds to poke through, (I bust 2 sets before I got it right) Red used as a brake light strip. I also have a long led strip along the bottom of my trailer that acts as a brake light. The busted set(s) I used the 3 working led's inside the scooter rear light and fixed it to my bike box as a rear light.Bike box on rear of my mountian bike.
Note the white tape holding in the brake lever working the lights so I could take the pic.Rear of Trailer.
The cheapest you'll find them...http://shop.ebay.co.uk/lckh2010/m.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A1%257C39%253A6%257C72%253A3133&rt=nc&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14.l1513&_pgn=1
I did at one time have all these lights working but with jumping from one project to the spoiler project there in various states at the moment. To controle the Lights - Horn (need to get a horn) - Indicators I used a handle of an old electric scooter I slavaged...
Sadly the scooter switch handle has stopped working for some unknown reason? So I ended up buying one of these of ebay...Lights Turn Signal Horn Switch for Scooters Bikes.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lights-Turn-Signal-Horn-Switch-Scooters-Bikes-/360313467787?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item53e45b338b
I also had a guy build me a flasher unit to work the indictors but it didn't work right, he built me another one free of charge. This resides in a box along with all the other new stuff planed to fit on the spoiler.
Once I get the spoiler all mocked up and working i'll strip it all back down for painting. Then its a case of fitting it all together and the headache of all the wiring
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I leave you with a link to another forums on Schwinn bikes, Stingrays - Spoilers - XL's - XXL's etcRebirth Of The Cool.
For some cracking looking spoilers.http://www.schwinnbike.com/usa/eng/forums/
All that lot should jeep you reading for a while. Till next time take care and ride safe
PS.... Just remembered about a guy with a Spoiler with a front hub, he made or had made a battery box that looked real cool. Im thinking of copying it for my batt box. I'll see if I can find pics of it.