72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong CA08 XM06AD_P04.1 controller

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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby Zenid » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:28 am

wesnewell wrote:It lives!!!!
All I needed to do was swap the Y and G phase and hall wires.

:D Ah! So you needed to swap the hall wires round too? I'll have to remember that one!
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong CA08 XM06AD_P04.1 controller

Postby wesnewell » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:40 am

Zenid wrote:
wesnewell wrote:It lives!!!!
All I needed to do was swap the Y and G phase and hall wires.

:D Ah! So you needed to swap the hall wires round too? I'll have to remember that one!

Yep. swapped both phase and hall yellow and green. I lucked out really. Followed a guide for Lyens 18 fet controller for the GM magic pie and started with it. It turned out to be the same for this controller and a GM motor. There's a possibility of 64 combinations total which would really suck to have to try one at a time.
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong CA08 XM06AD_P04.1 controller

Postby wesnewell » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:22 pm

Moved this controller over to other bike with 48V 1000W motor last night, or I should say early this morning. Took it for a test ride at 23s (96V). The power is awesome, almost scary. If I didn't weight 270lbs I'd swear it would do a wheely from the stop. Still not sure how fast it is as the speedo starts getting flaky at 40mph. It's faster than I want to ride it for any time. Braking from that speed with my weight is not fast. Thought I was going to burn the brake pads up. Anyway, I done for now.
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby jonathanm » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:24 am

hmmmm........now you've got me confused.........

I was just about settled on a crystalyte and a Lyen controller for my next build - now I am really considering going for this setup instead.....
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong CA08 XM06AD_P04.1 controller

Postby wesnewell » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:55 am

I don't know what you are looking for, but with this controller and 23s on the 500W motor is plenty powerful and a lot faster. I thought about buying one of Lyens 72V controllers but just couldn't bring myself to spend more on a motor controller than I spent on a whole kit. Best $37.62 I ever spent.
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby jonathanm » Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:11 am

wesnewell wrote:I don't know what you are looking for, but with this controller and 23s on the 500W motor is plenty powerful and a lot faster. I thought about buying one of Lyens 72V controllers but just couldn't bring myself to spend more on a motor controller than I spent on a whole kit. Best $37.62 I ever spent.


I don't know what I am looking for either, lol.....just more of a buzz I guess.....Lyens controller appeals because I can tweak the software and play around wit the settings....ultimately though, I have a bike now that is fast enough for pretty much any kind of commuting, I just need to bump up the Ah. For my next build I just want to do something more....interesting...I also like finding ways to do things on the cheap, so I would find a lot more satisfaction getting 40mph out of your setup than getting 40mph out of a tried and tested (and more expensive) Xlyte setup.....
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby snellemin » Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:52 am

I too wanted a cheap 72v+ controller. But I ended up with Lyen controller for a few reasons.
I wanted sensorless and high speed capability.
I wanted the CA to be able to just plug into the controller.
I wanted to controller to be able to hook up to a pc if desired.
I wanted to be able to use the cruise control switch.

The sensored function was cool, but I just didn't like the idea of failing tiny sensored wires in the middle of my commute and disabling the controller.

The 500W motor screamed on 22S, but got pretty warm in the Texas heat. I almost bought the newer crystalite motor, until I started seeing pics of the build quality.
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby auraslip » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:39 am

Isn't it awesome how cheap those are? I just wish there was some damn information about them.

Any one know of a source of cheap infenion controllers?
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong CA08 XM06AD_P04.1 controller

Postby wesnewell » Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:17 pm

auraslip wrote:Isn't it awesome how cheap those are? I just wish there was some damn information about them.
Any one know of a source of cheap infenion controllers?

What info do you need? Mine works like a charm. I've never opened it up and don't know what chip set it uses, and really don't care. Maybe it uses Infineon chip set, maybe not. Who cares, it works, and does all I wanted, which was cruise control and up to 100V.
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby auraslip » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:27 pm

Well... we spent awhile trying to get the LVC down so we could run them at lower voltages.

They're not infenion, and I can't find a pin out for the MCU anywhere. It'd be nice to know how to do all the fun stuff ya know?
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby wesnewell » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:33 pm

auraslip wrote:Well... we spent awhile trying to get the LVC down so we could run them at lower voltages.
They're not infenion, and I can't find a pin out for the MCU anywhere. It'd be nice to know how to do all the fun stuff ya know?

Why would you want to run them at a lower voltage? if you want a lower voltage controller buy a lower voltage controller. I'll trade you a 48V controller for yours if you haven't screwed it up already.
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby auraslip » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:45 pm

Why would you want to run them at a lower voltage? if you want a lower voltage controller buy a lower voltage controller. I'll trade you a 48V controller for yours if you haven't screwed it up already.


I'd gladly. I haven't done anything to it but chop off some of the connectors. I could solder on 4mm bullets and give you the opposites if you'd like.

What controller is yours?
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby wesnewell » Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:16 am

I've got a basic 48V 30A controller that came with a 48V 500W motor kit. I've modified the shunt to about 42A max. What connectors did you cut off? Here's a picture before the shunt mod of the one I have.
http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/controller1.JPG

AFAIK it has no special features. Just a basic 48V controller with ebrake cutoff.
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby auraslip » Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:28 am

From the ebay/ yesocoma kit? Darn... I was hoping for an infenion that I could add CA connectors and programming capabilities.

Still might be interested. Give me a few days to take a look at the other controller.
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby Artman300 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:55 pm

I have the same controller but i cant get mine to even work is there any way u can tell wut goes to wut plz


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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby auraslip » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:09 pm

Yes.
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby auraslip » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:57 pm

Artman - this isn't youtube. Keep it in the post, and help us help you with more information.

What blink codes are going off? There should be X number of blinks followed by a short pause and then it repeats.
What battery pack are you using?
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby jonathanm » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:19 am

I just ordered one of these....came back from seeing Harry Potter 3D and this cost less that the movie did lol....

I still will probably order a Lyen at some point....

Wes, you said you found some bits of info around on the web? whatcha got?
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby auraslip » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:47 am

Btw - I managed to drop the LVC down on these controller so you can run them at 48v. I put it for sale in the used section.
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby wesnewell » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:20 am

For anyone with the subject controller; I think this thread explains exactly how I got mine to work on a GM motor. With the exception of the phase and sensor wires, it should be the same for any motor. It appears it uses the same phase and hall wiring as Lyens controllers, as I used the one in this list for the GM Magic Pie for the GM motor and it worked. I'd start with the one listed here for your motor brand. If it doesn't work, there's only 64 combinations.:-) I used a small jewelers screwdriver to extract the pins from the hall sensor connector (controller side) in case you're wondering how to get the pins out without cuting them off.
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby wesnewell » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:07 am

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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby number1cruncher » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:40 pm

wesnewell wrote:Here's where I got mine.
http://www.dhgate.com/72v-1500w-brushle ... 455fb.html


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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby Ultraman » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:26 am

I've got a question about changing the phase angle on these controllers. I posted on the other thread discussing the LVC viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26306 and thought I'd put my question here too for good coverage.

Wesnewell wrote this on the first page of this thread about his controller, the same one that I have: "It's just wired a little different and doesn't have the phase change wires (H in your picture) coming out. And I can't tell which pads they are going to on your board. I know they are both yellow wires and I suspect one is going to ground and the other to M3 on the board by looking at your picture of the board, but would like to confirm it."

My controller also lacks the switch between 60 and 120 degree phase angle (two yellow wires) and is a stock 120 degree unit. My motors work at 60 degrees. Does anyone know where on the board I could solder a wire to make this change?


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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby wesnewell » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:26 pm

Sorry, I don't know for sure but if you look at all the pictures of the insides found here and elsewhere, I think you can narrow it down. IIRC, from the pictures there are only 4 yellow wires to the controller and 2 of them are obvious, the large yellow phase and the smaller yellow sense which is in line with the blue and green sense wires. By process of elimination...... Good luck.
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Re: 72v 1500W 40A Hua Tong Generic controller connections

Postby iovaykind » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:39 pm

Hey wesnewell, could you repost that link with the color linings for the lyen controllers? Link seems to not work.

I too bought one of these controllers, and it seems like they're a good controller if you don't need all the customizing and regen capabilities. I believe the kit I bought that is coming is also GM, so I should be switching the same stuff that you had to.
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