SoCal Motor Bicycle Race Sat Oct 22nd 2011 Grange Race Track

[MotorBicycleRacing]

We are coming full circle.

Safe says:

Re: (OUTLAW) Electric Bicycle Road Racing
by safe on Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:57 pm

SAFE MIGHT HAVE TO SHUT UP

That said,
Everyone is welcome at the races. The more the merrier!

Your tires are perfectly leagle...your confidence is inspiring. let the fat jokes fly.
Hope to see you at a race someday.
Not anonomously.
T

Shut up??? How about show up and race?
Yup, now that there is a low power ebike class I am counting on Safe to show up and support it!

Safe's tires have my blessing so there are no excuses not to get out on the track this April 7th

[Thud]

Neil,
PIRELLI ML75'S 2.5-16" (on 20" bicycle rims with bicycle hubs & bicycle spokes)

Leagle for compitition or not.....just say yes or no please. (that "If" you posted raised my eyebrows)

My only real gripe on the bicycle stuff is, it's way overpriced....the Ml75's cost me a 1/3 less than hookworms.

If I am going to blow $800.00 (& a weeks vacation) on a trip out west, The fewer suprises the better.

[SoSauty]

Yes, moped 2.5" Pirelli's are cool. Seems a cautious approach to approving safer non-bicycle tires has caused uncertainty. There is a tight rope act to somewhat keep these events motored "bicycle" while still allowing those pushing the envelope of innovation a proving ground.

Safe tires are encouraged, especially for the 35mph+ bikes. The Maxxis hookworms seem to have proven themselves, (correct me if you have seen otherwise) as well as moped/(motorcycle) tires that are designed for our racing speeds. Lo-powered bikes should strive to run bicycle tires to be within the spirit of MBR (I've never noticed the tire Police). Hi-powered bikes should strive to run bicycle wheels and safe Maxxis, or Pirelli 2.5" wide tires, this list should grow. If you have 2.75", 3.00", or motorcycle wheels; please contact MotorBicycleRacing to discuss. He's easy going and an advocate of our sport.

Think I'll put up a special prize, a Turnigy 63/74 motor for the fastest <1500W finisher in the new blended small motors class

Safe, you and Christofe#74 yellow fairing, who runs a delightfully designed 49cc 2stroke, should have a lot to discuss.

[etard]

Awesomeness!! I'm gearing up for a staging area at my house, let's blow some breakers guys (no 220 v yet)! Any and all are invited, so let me know if you need a place to crash and I have a big trailer if we need to haul anything up there. Grange is about an hour and a half away from me. I'm going low power and high power this time, so race what you got!

[GCinDC]

I'm building an all new frame though... Full suspension this time, setup with 1" of sag front and rear, and 1" of travel after the sag, so 2" total travel front and rear. Needle bearing pivots and linkage. All batteries and motor tucked into the front triangle. And for road racing, I only need about 1/5th the power of my current bike, so a smaller drivetrain as well.

very interesting... link to thread pls..

April, huh? I do need a couple days away...

[liveforphysics]

I'm building an all new frame though... Full suspension this time, setup with 1" of sag front and rear, and 1" of travel after the sag, so 2" total travel front and rear. Needle bearing pivots and linkage. All batteries and motor tucked into the front triangle. And for road racing, I only need about 1/5th the power of my current bike, so a smaller drivetrain as well.

very interesting... link to thread pls..

April, huh? I do need a couple days away...

It exists only in my head so far. I will do a build thread when im starting physical work.

[nicobie]

I really don't understand the thinking about running small moped tires vs hookworms.

Using the heavier moped tires doesn't give anybody an edge over the hookworms. They are just safer, and who doesn't want that?

[MotorBicycleRacing]

Neil,
PIRELLI ML75'S 2.5-16" (on 20" bicycle rims with bicycle hubs & bicycle spokes)

Leagle for compitition or not.....just say yes or no please. (that "If" you posted raised my eyebrows)

My only real gripe on the bicycle stuff is, it's way overpriced....the Ml75's cost me a 1/3 less than hookworms.

If I am going to blow $800.00 (& a weeks vacation) on a trip out west, The fewer suprises the better.

Yes, the Pirelli's are approved to race with as you stated.
The question on the other thread where I said "IF" was about a new 17" moped tire.

The only ebike to run the PIRELLI ML75'S 2.5-16" at the last Oct 22nd Grange race was Jay64

The only gas bike guy that I know of with a new build using PIRELLI ML75'S 2.5-16" is baird with a tiny kids bike.

[Stevil_Knevil]

Not sure if this is the place to cast my vote, but YES for allowing >2.5" moped tires at MBR events!!

[MotorBicycleRacing]

Not sure if this is the place to cast my vote, but YES for allowing >2.5" moped tires at MBR events!!

Yes, 2.5" Moped tires are allowed at SoCal Motor Bicycle Races.

[Stevil_Knevil]

Not sure if this is the place to cast my vote, but YES for allowing >2.5" moped tires at MBR events!!

Yes, 2.5" Moped tires are allowed at SoCal Motor Bicycle Races.

Thank you, Neil

[MotorBicycleRacing]

I really don't understand the thinking about running small moped tires vs hookworms.

Using the heavier moped tires doesn't give anybody an edge over the hookworms. They are just safer, and who doesn't want that?

The Pirelli's ML75's have a big advantage over the Maxxis hookworms in performance.
just ask Thud or Liveforphysics.

Also 99% of the gas bike guys use 26" wheels and will not convert to small diameter Moped size tires.
Maxxis hookworms are not unsafe. Any bike that is tearing them up is outside
of the 11 hp limit set for gas bikes at the Socal races.
That would put them in the Unlimited class where pretty much anything is allowed including motorcycle tires.

[etard]

I really don't understand the thinking about running small moped tires vs hookworms.

Using the heavier moped tires doesn't give anybody an edge over the hookworms. They are just safer, and who doesn't want that?

The Pirelli's ML75's have a big advantage over the Maxxis hookworms in performance.
just ask Thud or Liveforphysics.

Also 99% of the gas bike guys use 26" wheels and will not convert to small diameter Moped size tires.
Maxxis hookworms are not unsafe. Any bike that is tearing them up is outside
of the 11 hp limit set for gas bikes at the Socal races.
That would put them in the Unlimited class where pretty much anything is allowed including motorcycle tires.

I totally agree with this statement

[nicobie]

I really don't understand the thinking about running small moped tires vs hookworms.

Using the heavier moped tires doesn't give anybody an edge over the hookworms. They are just safer, and who doesn't want that?

The Pirelli's ML75's have a big advantage over the Maxxis hookworms in performance.
just ask Thud or Liveforphysics.

Also 99% of the gas bike guys use 26" wheels and will not convert to small diameter Moped size tires.
Maxxis hookworms are not unsafe. Any bike that is tearing them up is outside
of the 11 hp limit set for gas bikes at the Socal races.
That would put them in the Unlimited class where pretty much anything is allowed including motorcycle tires.

I totally agree with this statement

So you will be comfortable going 35 mph through the twistys on a expensive bicycle tire?