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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby waxman123 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:51 pm

That looks great!!!! You are on the wrong side of the street though!;-)
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby boostjuice » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:17 pm

Timma2500 wrote: Its got a tooth ache lol. To be fair to the gearbox, it was bound to happen and i was just seeing how long it would put up with being fed waay over its quoted torque limit. Not long indeed!


Are the gears case hardened? I realise it says "Massive 0.8 module hardened steel gears with an 11.5mm face" on the Banebots website but skepticism for such a low cost gearbox leads me to believe its best to run a file across them and see if they score. If not hardened, it might be worth getting this done.

She's got nice speed to go with the sleek looks. Look forward to some offroad singletrack video.
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby markobetti » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:38 am

Just to say that this is one of the most beautiful rc bike conversion . What really impressed me is , what you did to original frame and how you managed to get it to this level without ruining the design of bike . Great :D
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby deecanio » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:16 am

:shock:
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very quick Paul, one of the best builds i've seen thus far chap 8)

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby AussieJester » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:15 am

Timma2500 wrote: Should be a good combo, very adjustable between the pair of them :D


Yes i hope so...how are you finding the The Throttlizer and HV140 ?

Nice clip @ WOT to Paul :-)

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby Timma2500 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:48 am

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby Hyena » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:57 am

Looks like you're right at our 200w legal limit there Paul :lol:
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby etard » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:31 pm

Hey Paul,

First off congrats! Secondly, thanks for testing the limits of that banebot, what would you say is the practical limit on these things for a 3000km service life ( in watts)? What is the loudest component of your drivetrain? If you were to do it on a diffrent frame would you stretch the frame more or change the headtube angle? Is it stable at speed?
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby katou » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:01 pm

You have achieved the highest speed I ever will. If I ever achieve that speed, it will be by accident. That was so fast I had to watch it 2x to recalibrate my mental speedo.

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby AussieJester » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:49 pm

Timma2500 wrote: It'd be even better with the cruiser beside it :D


That would be in front of it Paul... Cruiser in front of the Norco :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Great to hear the Throttlizer and HV140 are playing nicely looking forward to
setting up the HV160 and throtlizer myself, Recumpence is pulling 400amps
with his HV160/8150 setup thats insane :shock: 140amp and the cruiser lights up
i think ill be limiting things to 160-170amp i bought the 200amp version of the throtlizer

HiGHSiDE Hyena wrote:Looks like you're right at our 200w legal limit there Paul :lol:


hehehe... just to be sure he is up there i agree a second 8150 is in order, can't be
left short want to be using ALL of the allowed 200watt limit Paul :P :lol: :mrgreen:

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby deecanio » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:29 am

hehehehehe,

not sure i'll compete with that Paul, im only going direct drive, no gears on the motor side yet so my top speed should be between 20-25mph, that will increase slightly once i get the sram in but tbh i dont need more than 30 tops for where i ride, im hoping my biggest achievment will be full suss without impedement.
good to hear you back me too with the belt tooth count tho mate.
Really looking forward to some trail vid when you get chance, theres some really nice bikes coming through now and yours is right up there, now start production!!!!


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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby Timma2500 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:24 am

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby deecanio » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:27 am

indeed, im think i'll have more than enough torque for the hills but the open sections is where i'll want a bit more speed, tbh if i can i'll try the sram asap :)

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby Whiplash » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:57 pm

Unbelievable build my friend! I can't wait to see it off road! NO HELMET CAMS THOUGH! they don't show anything but the terrain, I want to see the bike! As a fellow fabricator and TIG welder, DAM NICE JOB! I am really re thinking my hub motor on my current build now!
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby AussieJester » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:23 pm

Whiplash wrote: I am really re thinking my hub motor on my current build now!


Give yourself to the Dark Side. It is the only way you can get true performance. Yes, your thoughts betray you. Your feelings for the frock are strong, but you underestimate the power of the darkside. :mrgreen:

Paul...in case you haven't been reading the forums myself and Matt.P both have running bikes, is the Norco
in action? We can arrange a day for a ride when your free, once this shit storm we are having now blows out.

You have my contact info anywayz Paul lemme know what time is best for you and i'll contact Matt.P and see when he is free also, i can be avaialble any day/time i have no other commitments, just need to find a suitable time that is
good for you and Matt :-)


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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby Ypedal » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:16 am

Should i ship you guys a tow strap for the group ride ? :lol:
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby AussieJester » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:06 am

Ypedal wrote:Should i ship you guys a tow strap for the group ride ? :lol:



Yes one will do nicely...to tow Matt .P up the hills as he will have his frock motored MTB...
thanks for the foresight buddy, being a non-frock owner i would have missed the need for
the tow rope, Matt will be most appreciative.. :P :lol:

Didn't quite go as well as you thought it would did it YPedal MaN :mrgreen:

Spoke to Matt about the ride too Paul, he has 4 months leave/holidays so is quite flexible as to when he
will be avaialble....well haha more so than when hes working anywayz...Firemen have wonderful hours.

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby Timma2500 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:00 am

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby Timma2500 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:05 am

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby AussieJester » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:07 am

Glad to hear your getting the gearbox issues sorted, i posted up some data on my new HV160 on my thread Paul LoL peaking at 280amp 10 000watts :mrgreen: SOK buddy, Matt.P will have his frock motored bike he can keepz you company puttering about :mrgreen: :P :lol:

Look forward to the ride anywayz mate, it will be a leisurely pace, prolly venture up to the Bakery in Kalamunda ir the Kala Pub depending time of day? i'll be towing the wheelchair so be paths 99% of the way as long as your good to go on some hills you will have no probs mate...unless i spot some Lycras of course ...then ill be OFF in pursuit hahaa :mrgreen:

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby Timma2500 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:03 am

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby mwkeefer » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:00 pm

Tim,

Thanks!

#1.) The idea of a tow strap for a bike.... no BS, I've added one to my trunk kit on all my electrics! Great freaking idea, for the odd moment when a normal bike breaks down and you can tow then to safety or in our case (yours and mine both I'm saddened to say) when our electrics break down a mate can tow us home..

#2.) Since all my rides are either 15 or 18S now (and compatible within the entire range)... I added to one of my straps a length of turnigy 12AWG and a connection adapter kit (plugs for everything from 4mm bannana to Deans to Andersons)... now when I am out riding if one of my friends is along, I can add to their power in most cases while they tow me (still hasn't happened, but I figure with standards like the HV... this would be useful for you guys too)

#3.) I have 2 of the bane bot boxes here now... it looked so much easier on your thread :) Seriously though I had them do a special shaft on mine to come out for the input to accept a 3/8" HTD pulley from mcMaster so between the astro and the bane I do a 2:1... haven't gotten much further but these are neat little boxes!

Hope you have everything sorted and running soon, I'm going to be doing much lower power (maybe 50A limit) so the boxes should hold up fine (I guesstimate about 1/2 the rated load maximum)... my weak link will likely be an SA3 rear :)

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby katou » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:10 pm

I'm very bummed to hear about the 8150 Banebot combo. That being said, I'm very very happy to see the report. So often we hear about these amazing ideas, then never hear back. Since just about all of our RC ideas are way off the map, trial and error is the most reliable way to getting to success.

So my hat's off to you for finding out how far that little planetary could go, excellent work! Bravo! :P

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby AussieJester » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:18 pm

mwkeefer wrote:Tim,

Thanks!

#1.) The idea of a tow strap for a bike.... no BS, I've added one to my trunk kit on all my electrics! Great freaking idea, for the odd moment when a normal bike breaks down and you can tow then to safety or in our case (yours and mine both I'm saddened to say) when our electrics break down a mate can tow us home..


YPedal MaN...^^ more evidence of the trust in reliabilty you frock motor bois have .."eh" :mrgreen:

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was freakin fuuuun...

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p.s crusier is now chain drive Paul...i'll have you on acceleration AND top end now...Matt.P moivated me, he posted his top speed was 48 clicks .... mine was 50 can't have no frock that close... you will need another 10 on your top effort to catch me now buddy :mrgreen: :P :lol: Will need another motor to punch it over the 100 click mark but maaaan the speed it gets there is astonishing... haha till the esc decides its had enough i guess ..has been worth it
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build + 1st video

Postby Metallover » Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:08 pm

Tim, did you ever figure out of the gears are hardened or not? I just scored an identical gearbox for $50.
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