Astro 3210 group buy?

[recumpence]

I just got off the phone with Bob from Astro Flight. I can get a discount on 3220s for a lot order of 20 units. I did not get a firm price, but it looks like somewhere in the $575 apiece price point will be pretty close.

I will get back to you when I hear a for sure price. He is due to get back to me by tomorrow at the latest.

Matt

[recumpence]

Insert cricket sounds here...............

Matt

[Addicted]

I'll take a 3210.

Jason.


EDIT I think i rushed in to this,I'm going to go with stuff from cyclone first until i learn a little more.

[liteCycles]

Insert cricket sounds here...............

Matt

Don't get too discouraged.

Can't speak for everyone else but I'm always kicking around several ideas. Like would a 3210 fit the bill now and I could always try to upgrade it later to sensored and/or deta-wye? If so what Kv would work now and later with just a minor reconfig of the reduction ratio (MTB crank driven setup for full 9 speed cassette, low unsprung weight, and not losing the rear disk)? A 3220 would have the same issues so I need to tackle these questions myself.

Give it a few more days of no time to do anything and I'll just pounce on the 3210 for no other reason but to get it over with.

[Burtie]

Good work Matt!

Bring on the 3220s

Cheers,
Burtie.

[recumpence]

OK, I can do 3220s for $550 apiece.

So, who wants a 3220?

Matt

[MitchJi]

Hi Matt,

Wouldn't the 8150 be a better deal (about $350 at the prices you are quoting) than a 3210? Substantially more power and a lower kv for only about $75 more.

An Astro 3210, 8150,3220 combined group buy might be a better bet. Instead of 50 3210's a total of 50 or 60 motors in mixed sizes. Bob probably makes a little more on an 8150 or 3220 than a 3210 so he should go for it.

[mud2005]

OK, I can do 3220s for $550 apiece.

So, who wants a 3220?

you're kiilin me Matt! I really want a 3220, but need to wait for a bit more $$. when is the deadline?
could I get a 10 turn?
anodized black?

[Burtie]

Chalk me up for one (edit: 3220 7 turn) with all 6 termiations available

Burtie.

[recumpence]

We are getting close.

We need a few more motors spoken for to make this buy happen!

Matt

[georgeycc]

would buy a 3220 at $550 (can i ask for all 6 wires out?)
is there updates on the sensor board?
thanks

[mud2005]

Chalk me up for one with all 6 termiations available

Burtie.

was that for a 3210 or 3220?

[Burtie]

Chalk me up for one with all 6 termiations available

Burtie.

That would be the 3220 (edit: 7 turn with 6 terminations). Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Having a hall sensor board available for this motor would be fantastic, I wonder what the chances are it could be retro-fittable

Burtie

[recumpence]

I sent an email to Bob at Astro asking if I piggyback some 3220s with the 3210 group buy, if he will honor the 50 count 3210 price.

I think he may jump at it. So, this group buy may happen even though we are a ways away from the total number I needed.

I will let you guys know.

Matt

[grwsaltspring]

Hi Matt;

When do you need an answer re: a "definite purchase" commitment.

I'm interested, but haven't quite sorted out what I'd do with one just yet so have held off making any requests.

Greg

[MitchJi]

Hi Matt,

When do you need an answer re: a "definite purchase" commitment.

Ditto on the drop dead date.

Would you please check and see if you can include any 8150's? I'm interested in one. Also Tiberius might be interested. He was interested in four 3210's but they are a little underpowered for his application. Miles suggested the 8150, which Tiberius said would be an excellent choice but he said that $500 each was too expensive.

If you can't include any 8150's I guess I should consider a 3220 since the group price is only a little more than the normal 8150 price. My hesitation, other than price, is that the 3220 is too powerful for your reduction unit with a belt. How noisy do you think a 10 turn (67kv) 3220 would be with a 1/2" compared to a similar 8150 (Ithink about 100 kv) using a belt? Would the lower speed cancel out some or most of the noise difference?

[recumpence]

Even if you needed to run a #25 chain rather than a belt, the noise is not too obtrusive. If you watch the PK Ripper or Typhoon videos, you will get a feel of the sound.

I would assume a few 8150s thrown in the mix would be OK. I kind of get the impression Bob is just looking for a large order, more so than all 3210s. The reason I am thinking that is because he was very interested in giving the 50 lot price on two lots of 25 spaced as far apart as I wanted those lots spaced. So, my guess is, 18 or 20 3210s, 6 or 7 8150s, and 6 or 8 3220s would excite him just as much as a single order of 50 3210s. I could be wrong about that, though. I will see what he sayd to my email regarding this.

Also, I am thinking one more week to get some firm numbers (motor list) of committed buyers and I will plce the order. Do not have a firm cutoff in mind just now. But, I would think next weekend would be a good time to set aside for the group order to be finalized.

Matt

[mud2005]

Hi Matt, I've thought about it and would like to change my order.
I had wanted a 3210, but then you offered the 3220 so I think I'm going to get the 3220.
I would get both if I could afford it, but just can't come up with that kind of cash right now.
Anyway, $550 for a 3220 is just too good to pass up.
I'll take a 10 turn and just need the standard 3 wires out of the case.
Thanks

-mud2005

[recumpence]

Remember, the 3220 will be roughly twice the KV per turn of a 3210 (almost twice the KV). So, a 10 turn 3220 is like a 20 turn 3210.

Matt

[drewjet]

I don't think the numbers are finalized now, I think it only matters total qty desired. Bigger is better, I would rather have a 8150 or 3220 with 6 wires than a 3210. I will figure out KV once all is decided. But I am definately in for one motor either way.

[boostjuice]

Remember, the 3220 will be roughly twice the KV per turn of a 3210 (almost twice the KV). So, a 10 turn 3220 is like a 20 turn 3210.

Matt

Don't you mean half the KV per turn of a 3210?? a 10 turn 3220 would spin at the same speed as a 20 turn 3210 right?

[recumpence]

Doh, you got me!

Me brain was wrapped around the thought that the 3220 has twice the laminations as the 3210.

Sheesh, my brain is mush today.

Matt

[mud2005]

oh crap here's mud changing his order AGAIN!

sorry Matt, but I'm super indecisive about what I'm going to get, so for now I'm just going to say I don't know yet.

sorry for the inconvenience, I'll let you know later on when it gets close to order time, but for now don't count on my order as I just can't decide

[flyinut]

I keep hearing my bike - "More power, MORE POWER!" I'll be going with a 4 turn 3220 instead of the 3210.

Mark W. Dickey
KHYS/KU42

[recumpence]

OK Mark.

Astro was due to get back to me by the end of this week. I will call them this afternoon if I do not get an email back today.

Once I get an answer, (assuming it is a "Yes" that my odd mix of motor requests is being honored for a quantity discount) I will finalize the order and get the ball rolling. I do not want to string this along too far out, especially considering it will take a while to get all motors made and distributed.

Matt