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Re: Electra-punk

Postby rodgah » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:56 pm

AussieJester wrote:the rear, just IMHO, looks erm.."wrong"


shut up man LOL I like my mechano :lol: , especially with the polished inside alu tube in them as stiffners....

gtadmin wrote:rodgah, looking really good mate ...

I know you got the triple trees from ChopperUS, but when I look for them I can't seem to find them. Would you mind putting up links for them, also your rims, tyres etc (things are hard to get in regional oz)

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GT.....not real hard to find them....under frontends > forks >........http://www.choppersus.com/store/category/5/30/Forks/

the rims and hubs are also from choppersus (along with extrawide BB and all related parts....), and I had them spoked and trued locally with 14gauge spokes. Tyres brakes etc are from chainreactioncycles.com.....in my opinion the only place to buy bicycle parts online. Free shipping over $400 order and fast!.

Appart from the spokes I really havnt purchased anything locally....except getting material for the frame.... everything else has been ordered.


recumpence wrote:Pure artwork, Man!

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needs some more CNC aluminium art work to finish it :wink: thanks man.
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Re: Electra-punk

Postby AussieJester » Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:03 pm

rodgah wrote:
AussieJester wrote:the rear, just IMHO, looks erm.."wrong"

shut up man LOL I like my mechano :lol: , especially with the polished inside alu tube in them as stiffners....


HAHA yes yes WodGeR keep telling yourself that, you might eventually convince yourself its the truth :P :mrgreen:

Seriously mate, its one solid looking frame and will perform admirably ...

Now...more imporatntly! when are you going to show the lovely people of ES
your OTHER customised frame you just got back also :wink: I think you will get alot of favorable
response on that one too!! well, apart from the usual over thinkers that will bash the
fact it wasn't heat treated after the mods :roll: ... Thats the bike ima lookin forward
to seeing up and running the most Rodger! feeeel the power of the MoFo HoBO Turnigys :-P
Bordtrackers are for old men and cripples like me HAHAHA j/k :wink:

Dont get to drunk tonight buddy and have fun :-)

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Re: Electra-punk

Postby rodgah » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:01 am

AussieJester wrote:your OTHER customised frame


in good time....


Added pics of frame box :wink:
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Re: Electra-punk

Postby DALBYNATOR » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:28 am

rodgah wrote:
AussieJester wrote:your OTHER customised frame


Added pics of frame box :wink:


May I ask how much it cost you to have that battery box welded up? Its stainless steel I'm assuming, do you think it would cost more for Aluminium?

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Re: Electra-punk

Postby gtadmin » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:06 am

rodgah wrote:...
GT.....not real hard to find them....under frontends > forks >........http://www.choppersus.com/store/category/5/30/Forks/

the rims and hubs are also from choppersus (along with extrawide BB and all related parts....), and I had them spoked and trued locally with 14gauge spokes. Tyres brakes etc are from chainreactioncycles.com.....in my opinion the only place to buy bicycle parts online. Free shipping over $400 order and fast!.
...

Thanks for the heads up. I write (or used to) web applications for a living and my expectations of how web shopping should be and how it actually is is way different. I can never find shit :shock:
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Re: Electra-punk

Postby AussieJester » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:25 pm

rodgah wrote:
AussieJester wrote:your OTHER customised frame


in good time....


Added pics of frame box :wink:


Your such a tease Rodger lol...dont make me up them first, i'll tell everyone its my new frame ROFL ;-P

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P.s hope you feel better than I this morning, I feel off te wagon at the Casino last night got home at 5am wallet considerably lighter, damn I hate blackjack..lol
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Re: Electra-punk

Postby rodgah » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:51 pm

DALBYNATOR wrote:much it cost you to have that battery box welded up?


Dont know an itemised price as I had alot of stuff done at the same time. Its aluminium. If I had to guess I would say there is about an hour to 1.5 hours labour and about $75 of material so probably worse case would be $200.

AussieJester wrote:hope you feel better than I this morning,


spent all day in bed, felt like I had been ran over by a taxi....obviously a good night :lol:
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Re: Electra-punk

Postby Hillhater » Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:28 pm

Damm, !! Have we lost the pics from your orig post Rog ?
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Re: Electra-punk

Postby rodgah » Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:23 pm

yeah.

If they dont show up again, ill repost the originals.....or just use external hosting for them.

part of the reason I am keeping everything at the start.....makes it easy to fix when it all goes south.

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Re: Electra-punk

Postby LI-ghtcycle » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:04 am

Beautiful!! :shock: :shock: :D :D 8) 8)
Thank you Justin_Le for your selfless act of kindness! We all are in your debt.

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Re: Electra-punk

Postby rodgah » Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:32 am

got some headstem bearings into it and took a small vid to show the relative size of the frame.

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Re: Electra-punk

Postby Thud » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:27 am

this video is private.
get some......

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Re: Electra-punk

Postby emoped » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:32 pm

Nice work ... On my recent trip across the USA to pick up a Meyers Towdster ... I stopped to visit the evtv.me guys .... He let me drive the Electric Porsche 550 Spyder ..... IT was AWESOME ! Have a look see. Harley aka emoped
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Re: Electra-punk

Postby Kurt » Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:38 am

Just keep in lookout for cracks forming on that SS frame. It doesn't tend to lend its self well as frame building material. You might get away with it for a while. That's why you don't see to many ss frame bikes around other than the weight.

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Re: Electra-punk

Postby rodgah » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:10 pm

sorry vid now works.....

Kurt wrote:Just keep in lookout for cracks forming on that SS frame. It doesn't tend to lend its self well as frame building material. You might get away with it for a while. That's why you don't see to many ss frame bikes around other than the weight.

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I would be more worried about it if there was an ICE in it(vibration), or if it were to be used off road. Unless some serious hefty rider got on it and found some decent pot holes to run through I think its well and truely overbuilt for its application. Ti suffers from heat effected brittle zones just as much as 300's grade stainless, so I think the primary reason not many frames are made of SS is the weight/cost compared to chromo. Time will tell anyway, I might be eating my words in a few weeks time.....if that is the case it will be remade completely from aluminium, and the box welded to the frame.

I have not had alot of time to work on it this week.....I did change a friends bike over to some sweet Bus bar inspired by AJs bike.

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and heres a pic to give an idea on the bars that I will use....
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Im at the end of my days off now, hopefully next week I will get the crankset on and make the bike push pedal'able. Box mounted, and cover made for its window (once cut). And most of the electics mounted inside of the box. Maybe even the forks if I'm not too busy.

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Re: Electra-punk

Postby sn0wchyld » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:14 pm

rodgah wrote:Image
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Cheers



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that looks tidy! makes my wiring look like a loom of S#!T. Cant wait to get the time to put together a new bat case, so I can make mine look like that.
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Re: Electra-punk

Postby rodgah » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:10 pm

sn0wchyld wrote:Do you need to reconfig for charging?


nope....the db25 connector at the bottom has all 12s cells or 14 pins for balancing and the remaining pins share (-) and (+)....5 each. This is not a new technique, I am copying what alot of people have already done, and it is a neat solution to balance charging lipo.

dont worry, i think everyones first attempt looks terrible, mine looked like abortions thats for sure, but the more times you do it, the more you get a feel for how to make it neater and simpler.

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Re: Electra-punk

Postby sn0wchyld » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:42 am

rodgah wrote:
sn0wchyld wrote:Do you need to reconfig for charging?


nope....the db25 connector at the bottom has all 12s cells or 14 pins for balancing and the remaining pins share (-) and (+)....5 each. This is not a new technique, I am copying what alot of people have already done, and it is a neat solution to balance charging lipo.

dont worry, i think everyones first attempt looks terrible, mine looked like abortions thats for sure, but the more times you do it, the more you get a feel for how to make it neater and simpler.

cheers

I think I might be doing something similar already, only I still use the discharge leads for charging too, rather than through the db25. I still have to reconfig as my charger only manages 8s charging, and im running 20s. Using the spare pins for the main leads is a good idea, but how many amps can the pins take? Im charging at 30-40A, so not sure they'll take that...
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Re: Electra-punk

Postby flyinmonkie » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:06 pm

rodgah

The bike looks amazing. I like the battery box. Looks very similar to what I am doing. I'm looking forward to seeing how it all fits together.

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Re: Electra-punk

Postby rodgah » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:06 am

Ok time for an update.....

-I have mounted the box and cut the window
-had the BB welded to the brackets
-received the order from Matt.S
-made the battery mount.


Things i have left to do....

-go and pick up the box lid/cover and mount it using m6 nutserts
-buy chains
-modify rear brake caliper mount to allow the caliper to move over and slot over the disc
-pick up the new front fork stanchions
-assemble and mount drive
-wire everything up


The sprocket adaptor that Matt machined fits perfectly....has enough space for the caliper to sit in beside the sprocket. Unfortunately choppersUS hubs are a little oversize, so I threw the adapter on the lathe and opened it up a fraction to accept the hub.

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The rest of the pictures are at the start of the thread as usual.

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Re: Electra-punk

Postby recumpence » Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:07 am

I am amazed at the continual improvement I see in project bikes coming out of this forum as time goes on.

Amazing......

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Re: Electra-punk

Postby kfong » Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:16 am

Another cool build!
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Re: Electra-punk

Postby rodgah » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:57 pm

thanks guys,

anyone interested in weight,

I just weighed all the parts on the bike, only missing the chain for the drive to backwheel and it came in at 36.5KG's, alot lighter than I first thought it would be.

more updates next week.....

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Re: Electra-punk

Postby SamTexas » Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:08 pm

Subscribed. I'm amazed at the skill and effort you put into this build. Is this a common trait among downunder's members? More pictures please.

One question: Since you were building from scratch, why didn't you make the battery box part of the frame?
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Re: Electra-punk

Postby rodgah » Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:08 am

SamTexas wrote:Subscribed. I'm amazed at the skill and effort you put into this build. Is this a common trait among downunder's members? More pictures please.

One question: Since you were building from scratch, why didn't you make the battery box part of the frame?
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thanks, I think its just because we are all anal f**ks and like to be perfect

weight/design.....

assuming it were made out of 0.9mm ally like originally planned it would of been lighter(though in retrospect it would of been easier to have it laser cut in SS and welded to the frame). And besides I love the contrast between stainless steel and machined/polished aluminum(it is going to be polished, just waiting to be finished handling it before I go finishing it). And trying to replicate / redesign a vintage ICE bike to some degree requires something that looks similar to a fuel tank.

I have not had alot of progress this week, still waiting on chains, new drive mounts (the originals were too short). I am having a crack at the wiring....probably 50% done, and hobbyking have held an order of mine containing cable sheath that I want to use to complete this bike because it went into backorder as I ordered it :x . Might be going before Christmas lol .

I did shave the brake caliper mount though so I have functional rear brakes :wink:

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