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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:58 pm

No problem! That's what the forum is for right? :D
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Powdersummit » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:51 pm

It's looking good. It will be interesting to see how well it works. What kind of freewheel are you going to use on the crank? It's going to have to be a pretty stout setup for the torque of that Mac.

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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:43 pm

I use the white ENO with the flange from sick bikes..
It has held up fine so far with my old RC drive.. Really, the freewheel does not take any of the torque from the motor, it simply acts as a bearing and takes whatever torque you can provide via the pedals..
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby gtadmin » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:59 pm

Whiplash wrote:No problem! That's what the forum is for right? :D

Yes, but I always try to positively acknowlege someone who responds to a request by me ( = yes, but thanks anyway) :D
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby French » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:41 pm

Any updates? I love this thread and your application. It would be fantastic to have the ability to climb hills with minimal wattage (I melted my phase wire connectors going slow up a steep hill). Eventually I would love to have a mid-drive, and being able to use my 8T Mac would be quite cool.
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:40 pm

Yeah soon! I have had to help my parents move the last couple weekends so hopefully this weekend ill get some done!
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:24 pm

Finally! Some progress!!

All that's left is to dial in the little touches on the brackets, and mount it up!


Boy! The MAC without the spoke flanges is actually QUITE SMALL for a 3000 watt capable mid drive WITH its own reduction built in! I can't wait to get this kit on the market!
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby French » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:29 pm

Looks fantastic! Great job!
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:32 pm

Thanks!
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby corkscrew » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:28 pm

Whiplash wrote:Boy! The MAC without the spoke flanges is actually QUITE SMALL for a 3000 watt capable mid drive WITH its own reduction built in! I can't wait to get this kit on the market!


I can't wait either, I've been going over something like this in my head for my next build.

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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Tom Tom » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:56 pm

Whiplash wrote:Boy! The MAC without the spoke flanges is actually QUITE SMALL for a 3000 watt capable mid drive WITH its own reduction built in!


How did you remove the spoke flanges?
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:10 pm

My lathe!
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:36 pm

Afternoon project pics! I added adjustability to the bracket for chain tightening and frame variations..

Should have it ready to bolt in permanently by next weekend for sure!

It also worked out to have better ground clearance than I thought being a couple inches higher than the 44T chainring so it should not interfere much if at all with off road clearance!
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:13 pm

Oh yeah, this is how you work on your E-Bike with a 9built month old girl in the house!

Lol!
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:08 am

End of the day update:

Getting close! Just need to do the other side and slot the holes in the mid plates. Then I simply weld half of each shaft clamp to its respective mount plate and im ready to final finish/paint and assemble! Oh I also need a proper spacer cut on the lathe for the right chainring so it lines up with the motor sprocket...
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby sn0wchyld » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:37 pm

looking good mate! really looking forward to seeing how this one runs, I was split between getting a mac for a mid drive and the usual 80100.

Do you know the new outer diameter of the mac without the flanges?
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:15 pm

Thanks! The diameter is down from over 7" to under 6.5" so its considerably smaller.. On my bike I have over 11" of ground clearance vertically with the drive in place
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby waynebergman » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:23 pm

I am wondering if you can tell me a bit more please about your mac motor. I was reading from a retailers site that it spins nice and slow so this sounds good for keeping the motor in its happy zone for putting around slow and up hills for a DD application.Wondering if you would know how it compares to a Crystalite HT or HS for quality, torque, and handling overheating say if you are running something like 48v with a 35a controller? I am guessing it would not be as quiet as the HS or HT?
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:58 pm

Sure thing, 48v 35a is right in line for the MAC. I have to say that pound for pound and watt for watt up to about 2500 watts the MAC really has no equal in my book. Now obviously if you are wanting more power, then its not the right choice, but 2500 watts in the MAC is more like 3500 in a DD hub and it will be heavier than the MAC. I also think the MAC is just as quiet as a dd hub since it takes less wattage to do the same work..
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:17 pm

UGH, sorry guys, I am barely alive right now, I got this horrible cold and have been fighting it all last week. I was hoping to have this thing up and running this weekend, but no dice, I should get it this coming weekend!
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby waynebergman » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:00 am

Hope you are on the mend Whiplash. When you get things up and running and if you get a chance to make a video of the bike in action I for one would sure like to hear how it sounds from up close. I have not seen or heard a mac hub running and the sound part of the equation is fairly important to me for the next bike I build. The more I get thinking about my next bike I am leaning towards this Mac hub with a mid drive so I will be following your progress with interest. I am hoping your combination of bicycle sprockets and mid drive package along with your little Mac hub is a winner! All the best.
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:12 am

Thanks! It has been one thing after another lately, now my parents sold their house so I had to spend the last week moving my stuff I was storing there to my garage, sick and all! I will try hard to get it going soon, im running out of nice weather!!!
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:44 pm

Just wanted to let those that have been watching this thread, I have not given up, just dealing with life right now. Had t buy a cheap ride for the commute when the bike may be down and had only a little to spend so I spent the last two weekends working on it getting it up to speed. Cool ride though, a 91' LX mustang 5.0 nice little hot rod for 1500 bucks. Then the baby got sick so we will see how it goes, its really disgusting when all you need is a few cuts and spot welds to complete a year long project and you can't even get that done! BUT don't worry I am down but not out, it will happen soon!
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby AussieJester » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:15 pm

Sorry to hear you been ill mate, have you been able to check the forums much? you
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Re: Finally a new chapter for my Current "Trail Drive"!

Postby Whiplash » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:35 pm

Thanks AJ,

That is one Killer build!
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