48v 500w Cyclone kit battery consumption....

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48v 500w Cyclone kit battery consumption....

Postby cajunjay » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:29 pm

Hi guys

Ive just bought a 48v 500w Cyclone kit to use on my Kona jump bike.

This bike runs on 24" wheels and runs fairly smooth on Maxxis Holy rollers, Ive been reading some threads where others are using the same kit and one guy said the battery consumption is really bad on these kits especially 500w, he mentioned that he gets the same consumption form his 1500w hub motor setup.

I just ordered myself a 48v 15ah battery and now im thinking it wont be enough, Im only looking for about a 12mile trip at average speeds say 15-20mph and mainly flat ground will this be enough battery?

Thanks in advance
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Re: 48v 500w Cyclone kit battery consumption....

Postby dumbass » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:37 pm

If you can't ether you or your bike need to go on a major diet. Assuming it's a good pack of course. I used to run a 360w Cyclone on 24v and got about 15 miles on an 18ah lead pack. On a 20ah lifepo4 pack I had no problem doing 20 25 miles and 30% was with no peddling.

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Re: 48v 500w Cyclone kit battery consumption....

Postby cajunjay » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:46 pm

Sounds okay then I suppose.

My battery pack is a fairly cheap one as Im staying in china for 6 months so bought it from a store I found.

So your saying I might be okay for a 12 mile trip? You old setup was 24v 360w and you did okay on a 18ah lead acid setup which is promising for me.


Maybe I should have went with a 24v kit instead of the 48v one as this is gonna use up my battery so much faster, or even just went with a hub motor setup which isnt gonna be as much fun as I wanted some torque for off road sometimes.
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Re: 48v 500w Cyclone kit battery consumption....

Postby POPS » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:24 pm

cajunjay wrote:Hi guys

Ive just bought a 48v 500w Cyclone kit to use on my Kona jump bike.

This bike runs on 24" wheels and runs fairly smooth on Maxxis Holy rollers, Ive been reading some threads where others are using the same kit and one guy said the battery consumption is really bad on these kits especially 500w, he mentioned that he gets the same consumption form his 1500w hub motor setup.

I just ordered myself a 48v 15ah battery and now im thinking it wont be enough, Im only looking for about a 12mile trip at average speeds say 15-20mph and mainly flat ground will this be enough battery?

Thanks in advance


cajunjay

Where did you get a 48 Volt 500 watt cyclone kit.

I thought they only came in 24 Volt and an internal controler on the 500 watt kit.

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Re: 48v 500w Cyclone kit battery consumption....

Postby dumbass » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:44 pm

I have to admit I too thought the smaller Cyclones were all 24v. In any case 500w is 500w regardless of the voltage. So there is no more consumpsion from the batter at 48v 500w then at 24v. The advantage of the higher voltage is you can use smaller wiring.

Yeah, I had no problem with the lead packs on my 360w. And a lifepo4 pack should be better. Of course that will always depend on the quality of the cells. The big problem with the 500w Cyclone is they consume a lot of power under high loads. So if your pack is has a low C rating be damn sure you peddle on starts and make use of your low gears.

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Re: 48v 500w Cyclone kit battery consumption....

Postby Timma2500 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:30 am

You should easily get 12 miles on a 15ah pack @ 15-20mph. I had a 48v 1200w setup and constantly got over 30km / 19miles from it with a 12s / 15ah lipo drawing up to 2000w peaks.

A few things i learnt with the Cyclones (the 1200w atleast):

*Pedal - this really helps with range and speed.

*Use the gears - don't be lazy with gear selection and try not to lug/under rev the motor. Always start from a stand-still in 1st or 2nd gear.

*Don't bother using the 44t or 48t front chain wheel for pedaling, its too taller gearing for the motor to really pull.
Use the 44t or 48t to go to the 14t motor sprocket and use the 32t or 34t chainwheel to go to the back wheel.
I used a 32t and could still reach 64kph on a flat pathway with slick tyres on the bike. Its also much better for hill climbing.

*WOT for extended periods will see the motor starting to get quite hot, this could effect efficiency... The Cyclone heatsinks will help counter this, worthwhile getting.

I hope this helps :)

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