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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby Xanda2260 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:31 pm

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I was wondering if it is posdible to display gps speed in live view. The system seems to log it regardless ad gps wh/mile is always calculated.
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we will have multi-data screen next week, after this we may allow GPS speed also be displayed, so please wait.


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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby cal3thousand » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:15 pm

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cal3thousand wrote:Hi there!

I'm interested in your product. I was at first interested in the Cycle Analyst, but being an avid Android fan, I thought the speedict would be awesome.

I purchased a rear Geared Kit from e-bikekit.com that does not include a PAS system. I would like to add one by using your device is that possible? My idea would be to get the Speedict and hook up the following ports:

1) Speed sensor (included with kit)
2) Temp sensor (included with kit)
3) Throttle control cable (add-on available with kit) ??
4) PAS sensor [need to get one] ??

Are my assumptions correct with 3rd and 4th lines? I just need to choose the optional throttle auxiliary cable and supply my own PAS sensor?

Anyone know the best place to get one?

Thanks in advance!


sorry for my late reply as i didn't receive any notice from es as i used to have ...

yes you need to purchase one PAS sensor and hook up to speedict ebike port, the speed, temperature sensors are included, and throttle control cable is available from our website.

should you have any queries, please hesitate to ask again.

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Thank you for your reply.

One more question for clarification. Will I still be able to use the manual throttle with this setup? I'm having a hard time understanding the connection between throttle and controller and Speedict.

I know that I have to buy your cables to connect, but what do they actually connect? Does the extra cable connect the throttle to the unit in a parallel circuit? or does it somehow go in-line?

thanks for addressing my confusion. I am very close to pulling the trigger on this purchase, but wanted to make sure I have everything correctly assumed.
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:04 pm

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speedict wrote:
cal3thousand wrote:Hi there!

I'm interested in your product. I was at first interested in the Cycle Analyst, but being an avid Android fan, I thought the speedict would be awesome.

I purchased a rear Geared Kit from e-bikekit.com that does not include a PAS system. I would like to add one by using your device is that possible? My idea would be to get the Speedict and hook up the following ports:

1) Speed sensor (included with kit)
2) Temp sensor (included with kit)
3) Throttle control cable (add-on available with kit) ??
4) PAS sensor [need to get one] ??

Are my assumptions correct with 3rd and 4th lines? I just need to choose the optional throttle auxiliary cable and supply my own PAS sensor?

Anyone know the best place to get one?

Thanks in advance!


sorry for my late reply as i didn't receive any notice from es as i used to have ...

yes you need to purchase one PAS sensor and hook up to speedict ebike port, the speed, temperature sensors are included, and throttle control cable is available from our website.

should you have any queries, please hesitate to ask again.

cheers,

danny



Thank you for your reply.

One more question for clarification. Will I still be able to use the manual throttle with this setup? I'm having a hard time understanding the connection between throttle and controller and Speedict.

I know that I have to buy your cables to connect, but what do they actually connect? Does the extra cable connect the throttle to the unit in a parallel circuit? or does it somehow go in-line?

thanks for addressing my confusion. I am very close to pulling the trigger on this purchase, but wanted to make sure I have everything correctly assumed.



yes you still have throttle control, all you need to do is put speedict ebike in between your twist throttle and speed controller e.g. twist throttle -> speedict ebike -> speed controller, this configuration with throttle cable allow speedict ebike take control of your throttle signal !

enclosed herewith the android client 2.3 user guide (page 45) shown one of the Function Mode - Road Legal 2 Mode, your twist throttle and pas sensor are connect to speedict ebike instead of connect to speed controller !

should you have any queries, please don't hesitate to contact me again.


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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby Xanda2260 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:45 am

Hey Danny, I've got a weird issue going on. Just went for a ride, got back and checked my wh/mile. It was 43 wh/mile in live view. I then synchronised with my phone and had a look at the trip record. The wh used is correct (145wh), the distance is correct (3 and a bit miles) but the wh/mile says 16! I know it was displayed correctly in live view, but is wrong in the record? Any ideas?
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:49 am

Xanda2260 wrote:Hey Danny, I've got a weird issue going on. Just went for a ride, got back and checked my wh/mile. It was 43 wh/more in live view. I then synchronised with my phone and had a look at the trip record. The wh used us correct (145wh), the distance is correct (3 and a bit miles) but the wh/mile says 16! I know it was displayed correctly in live view, bit is wrong in the record? Any ideas?
Thanks

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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby Xanda2260 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:27 pm

Cheers :)
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:40 am

Xanda2260 wrote:
speedict wrote:
Xanda2260 wrote:
I was wondering if it is posdible to display gps speed in live view. The system seems to log it regardless ad gps wh/mile is always calculated.
Cheers



we will have multi-data screen next week, after this we may allow GPS speed also be displayed, so please wait.


Awesome! Thanks guys.

In the meantime...amazing product!




herewith the multi-data layout client

1. On you android device, press the Android Main menu button -> press the "Options" menu item -> press the "Screen Layout" menu item
2. Select number of row you want to display e.g. 4, and press the "Next button"
3. On the Preview screen, you should see 4 row and 2 column data field
4. Press and hold for 1 second on the data field to select data type you want to display e.g. GPS Speed
5. Continue for the rest 7 data fields
6. Press the "Save" button to save your settings

now go back to the main menu and select "Live View" you will see the new Multi-Data screen.

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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby d8veh » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:19 am

Danny, Just a thought about the pedal sensor: On my present controller the power it gives is dependent on pedalling speed. It's almost impossible to go at constant speed. When I pedal fast, it gives so much power that I can't pedal fast enough, so I change to a higher gear to pedal slower and then the power is reduced and I slow down. What I'd prefer would be to be able to set the amount of power constant (but adjustable from software) from the pedal sensor, which can be over-ridden by throttle input.

Thanks for the multi-parameter display. That's what I've been waiting for. I like this product so much I just ordered another one for my other bike.
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:23 am

d8veh wrote:Danny, Just a thought about the pedal sensor: On my present controller the power it gives is dependent on pedalling speed. It's almost impossible to go at constant speed. When I pedal fast, it gives so much power that I can't pedal fast enough, so I change to a higher gear to pedal slower and then the power is reduced and I slow down. What I'd prefer would be to be able to set the amount of power constant (but adjustable from software) from the pedal sensor, which can be over-ridden by throttle input.

Thanks for the multi-parameter display. That's what I've been waiting for. I like this product so much I just ordered another one for my other bike.


my question is, do you also need twist throttle input ? if you use PAS only, may be "PAS to Throttle" mode can help ..

by enable "cadence matching" + "throttle range setup" e.g. you can instruct speedict ebike to start power when your cadence > 10 rpm and set appropriate motor start power, i think it may help !!!

by the way we have plan to design customize power band e.g. you can design your power band by drawing the curve on your android device :)


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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby d8veh » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:22 am

speedict wrote:
my question is, do you also need twist throttle input ? if you use PAS only, may be "PAS to Throttle" mode can help ..

by enable "cadence matching" + "throttle range setup" e.g. you can instruct speedict ebike to start power when your cadence > 10 rpm and set appropriate motor start power, i think it may help !!!

by the way we have plan to design customize power band e.g. you can design your power band by drawing the curve on your android device :)
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I presently use a potentiometer as a cruise control instead of a throttle. It's activated by a switch and I turn the knob to make adjustments to my cruising speed. What I would like is that it's activated by pedalling and stops when I stop pedalling. If the throttle only gave a signal when pedalling, this would be the same as what I want because I can substitute my potentiometer for the throttle. In some European countries it's not allowed to have a throttle that can work when not pedalling.
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:35 am

d8veh wrote:
speedict wrote:
my question is, do you also need twist throttle input ? if you use PAS only, may be "PAS to Throttle" mode can help ..

by enable "cadence matching" + "throttle range setup" e.g. you can instruct speedict ebike to start power when your cadence > 10 rpm and set appropriate motor start power, i think it may help !!!

by the way we have plan to design customize power band e.g. you can design your power band by drawing the curve on your android device :)
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I presently use a potentiometer as a cruise control instead of a throttle. It's activated by a switch and I turn the knob to make adjustments to my cruising speed. What I would like is that it's activated by pedalling and stops when I stop pedalling. If the throttle only gave a signal when pedalling, this would be the same as what I want because I can substitute my potentiometer for the throttle. In some European countries it's not allowed to have a throttle that can work when not pedalling.


interesting, if i understand correctly, you want and you can use speedict ebike "road legal 2 mode" connect both your potentiometer and pas and owning to the regulation, when you stop pedaling it stop, when you want it be activated your pas cadence has to be detected by speedict ebike ... right ? tell me more see if we can help ?
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby d8veh » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:19 am

speedict wrote:
interesting, if i understand correctly, you want and you can use speedict ebike "road legal 2 mode" connect both your potentiometer and pas and owning to the regulation, when you stop pedaling it stop, when you want it be activated your pas cadence has to be detected by speedict ebike ... right ? tell me more see if we can help ?


That's exactly what I want. Can it do that already with "road legal 2"?
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:48 pm

d8veh wrote:
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interesting, if i understand correctly, you want and you can use speedict ebike "road legal 2 mode" connect both your potentiometer and pas and owning to the regulation, when you stop pedaling it stop, when you want it be activated your pas cadence has to be detected by speedict ebike ... right ? tell me more see if we can help ?


That's exactly what I want. Can it do that already with "road legal 2"?


yes !

if you have time you can download the Android Client 2 User Guide from our website then ...

1. take a look on page 45 for the connection diagram, so you just replace the twist-grip throttle with your cruise potentiometer

2. go to page 58 you can see the android interface for road legal 2 mode, there are feature called "motor start method" so you select "6 km/h", and you can also set the throttle type to "speed throttle" and limit your top speed 25 km/h so whenever you increase your potentiometer signal, speedict ebike will govern your speed to 25km/h (whatever value or speed you set)
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:49 pm

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Xanda2260 wrote:Hey Danny, I've got a weird issue going on. Just went for a ride, got back and checked my wh/mile. It was 43 wh/more in live view. I then synchronised with my phone and had a look at the trip record. The wh used us correct (145wh), the distance is correct (3 and a bit miles) but the wh/mile says 16! I know it was displayed correctly in live view, bit is wrong in the record? Any ideas?
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hi, can you send me your log file, or upload your log to our server, we can examine there ?

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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby Xanda2260 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:00 pm

speedict wrote:
speedict wrote:
Xanda2260 wrote:Hey Danny, I've got a weird issue going on. Just went for a ride, got back and checked my wh/mile. It was 43 wh/more in live view. I then synchronised with my phone and had a look at the trip record. The wh used us correct (145wh), the distance is correct (3 and a bit miles) but the wh/mile says 16! I know it was displayed correctly in live view, bit is wrong in the record? Any ideas?
Thanks

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hi, can you send me your log file, or upload your log to our server, we can examine there ?

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Yeah, I reckon I can do that. I can save the logs off using the pc software right?

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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:23 pm

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Yeah, I reckon I can do that. I can save the logs off using the pc software right?

Cheers Danny


you can either :

1. using pc suite, and from the main menu - File -> Save Log (as i remember that)
2. or using pc suite, open you log, chart view and upload to the our internet server and send me your url ...
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby Xanda2260 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:58 pm

Pm sent with log attached. Cheers Danny :)
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby cal3thousand » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:06 pm

I can't wait to get mine!!! Tracking (EMS) says it is in the US after only 1 day. Presumably, I will have it very soon.

On a side note, Danny helped me change my shipping address since PayPal forwarded the wrong one. Great guy to deal with! Changing the address also might have created a double shipment, he said. His solution: I could send him back the extra one or if someone stateside orders it, ship it from here to the new recipient. That's the kind of service that we need from International Sellers!! :wink:
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby Xanda2260 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:24 pm

Danny is a brilliant guy to deal with. This device is so useful and the customer service is excellent. I really can't fast them at all!

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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

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Totally agree, Danny is more than ok to deal with ! Shipping, support is perfect !!
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby rosich » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:24 am

yeah ! last week end i email communicate with danny for about half an hour, he gave me a lot of information including their company coming products, features and road map, that's all i am waiting for especially the community concept !
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby d8veh » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:16 am

What I like is the way that nearly every suggestion we've made has been incorporated into the software. It does so much now and more is coming. IIUC, coming soon is the solution to smooth throttle control.
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby o00scorpion00o » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:02 pm

Hi Danny,

Great product and getting better every page of this thread!

Can I ask you if the power can be turned off via the software, which would then turn off the controller ?

Maybe some kind of current limit for the controller connecting your device to the battery to prevent high currents and spark ?

Maybe a power outlet to charge the phone, a cradle for the handlebars ?

That would be really cool !

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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:33 am

o00scorpion00o wrote:Hi Danny,

Great product and getting better every page of this thread!

Can I ask you if the power can be turned off via the software, which would then turn off the controller ?

Maybe some kind of current limit for the controller connecting your device to the battery to prevent high currents and spark ?

Maybe a power outlet to charge the phone, a cradle for the handlebars ?

That would be really cool !

Mark


Can I ask you if the power can be turned off via the software, which would then turn off the controller ?

>> sorry ! it can't

Maybe a power outlet to charge the phone

>> on our project list, mobile phone charger, max input 80V and max charge current ~1A

a cradle for the handlebars ?

>> difficult with many size of Android phone in the market, however we do have a plan to sourcing china made Android PMP ~ 4" and connect with wire not bluetooth, so don't need external power source and fixed size for cradle install.

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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby o00scorpion00o » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:03 am

Thanks for the reply Danny,

Ok so how about an on off switch or some kind of current limiting when connecting power to stop spark in a future version ?

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