EZip - IZip 20mph Upgrade $20!

[DrkAngel]

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Going from 20T to 16T ...
20/16 = 1.25 = 125% speed = 25% speed increase
16/20 = .8 = 80% torque = 20% torque decrease

Important to note:
Due to the "torque profile" - torque steadily decreases till a top speed is reached ...
At faster than 10.25mph, the 16T actually, applies more torque, to the road, than the lower geared 20T!

While at 0 mph the 16T has 80% torque of 20T, at:
2.5 mph the 16T has 85%
5 mph the 16T has 90%
7.5 mph the 16T has 95%
10 mph the 16T has 100%

In other words ...
The oem 20T freewheel would not benefit you, except accelerating to 10.25mph! ... or ... unless you take hills at less than 10.25mph!

Above 10 mph, the 16T greatly excels at torque production,
105% @ 11 mph,
110% @ 12 mph,
120% @ 13 mph,
135% @ 14 mph,
155% @ 15 mph,
200% @ 16 mph,
300% @ 17 mph!
Much beyond that, the 20T produces nothing, so comparison is not factorable.

Personally, I accelerate past 10 mph, in about 2 seconds, partial throttle w/pedal assist ...

[marty izip]

Hi, Just built up an Izip using the 16 tooth mod. What a difference to standard. Thanks for the effort you put into the detailed description and photos.
For information my standard free-wheel came off using a BMX 4 lug removal tool (it had the notches already in) so no grinding.

[DrkAngel]

Hi, Just built up an Izip using the 16 tooth mod. What a difference to standard. Thanks for the effort you put into the detailed description and photos.
For information my standard free-wheel came off using a BMX 4 lug removal tool (it had the notches already in) so no grinding.

Glad to hear it!
Does the new model Izip freewheel turn easily? ... Or does it feel like it is filled with tar?

Max pedal speed should be able to push you a bit faster.
For prolonged cruising, (better battery yet?), you might want a better ratio 7spd freewheel.

[gmonster2]

Hi Dark Angel thanks for the info. I got a freewheel from chain reaction $17 posted to Australia came in one week, so all good.

My Izip TrailZ I bought in 2010 the freewheel had no notches! Does it only work if u grind notches in the innermost circle and turn? I got the inner part turning where the 2 holes are and the wording that is turning clockwise but it still wont come off?

I will try grinding at a friends tomorrow but I don't understand how your second method with the park tool worked as that seems to be on the holes and wording part which is what I have turning around no problem.

also where does the washer go?

and yeah the original freewheel does feel like its full of tar the new southpaw is heaps better..cant wait for a souped up test run..

thanks for any help mate...

[DrkAngel]

Hi Dark Angel thanks for the info. I got a freewheel from chain reaction $17 posted to Australia came in one week, so all good.

My Izip TrailZ I bought in 2010 the freewheel had no notches! Does it only work if u grind notches in the innermost circle and turn? I got the inner part turning where the 2 holes are and the wording that is turning clockwise but it still wont come off?

I will try grinding at a friends tomorrow but I don't understand how your second method with the park tool worked as that seems to be on the holes and wording part which is what I have turning around no problem.

also where does the washer go?

and yeah the original freewheel does feel like its full of tar the new southpaw is heaps better..cant wait for a souped up test run..

thanks for any help mate...

3 rings.
Outer, toothed, ring.
Middle, 2 hole, ring.
Inner threaded ring.

Park tool method works on new and slightly used wheels, only.
"Middle" ring is press fit onto "Inner" ring.

Notching inner ring will work.

"Spot" "tack" weld of inner to middle ring, then turn, should work.

Last resort might be to cut middle ring, then use vise, or pipe wrench on inner ring.

Cutting wheel notch, at inner-middle point, then insert flat screwdriver should stabilize middle-inner ring, for turning, also.

Note! A very good idea to pack around center bearing. Cotton balls? To prevent, grinding-cutting residue from invading bearing!

Correction!
Washer:
If you assemble with ACS freewheel, the removal notches (pawls) will hit against the motor mounting plate.
The washer is placed on the axle, between the freewheel and the motor mounting plate, allowing clearance and spreading the frame very slightly. ...... Sorry about earlier placement I recommended! Suffered a brain fart!

Note: All rear wheel work is much easier if you add the T-Plug connector to the motor, allows full assembly and adjustment before remounting on bike.
Also, check for alignment of chain, various freewheels seem to have a minor offset, motor bracket re-alignment, might be recommended. Much easier to do, before full re-assembly.

[jateureka]

Great write up on a relatively easy and cheap upgrade to the Currie eZip and iZip.

There's an explanation for removing a freewheel here but your methods sound good http://www.electricscooterparts.com/freewheelclutchremoval.html

[DrkAngel]

Great write up on a relatively easy and cheap upgrade to the Currie eZip and iZip.

There's an explanation for removing a freewheel here but your methods sound good http://www.electricscooterparts.com/freewheelclutchremoval.html

Sorry! ... method won't work!
Currie eZip and iZip freewheels use press fit, not threaded components. ...

[jateureka]

sorry, missed that bit in the abve posts! thanks for clarifying.

[DrkAngel]

I ran into a 2009 EZip Trailz, that required motor mounting bracket "adjustment".
Currie XYD-16 Motor

I'm not sure how common this situation is, does not seem very frequent.
Out of 20+ responses, only 1 other person, has mentioned encountering this "problem".

[DrkAngel]

Standard 14-28T (or 14-34T) freewheel is woefully inadequate, especially if you do the, 16T, or 36v, upgrades.
The 11T, top end gear, allows pedal assist up through 30mph.
Also, the wider spacing of the gears matches the ebike better.

7 Speed Freewheel 11-30T,11-32T, 11-34T LONG YIH DNP - $36
"Best Offer" - $33 accepted

5/04/12 - new link
7spd 11T freewheels

[MattMass]

I ran into a 2009 EZip Trailz, that required motor mounting bracket "adjustment".
Currie XYD-16 Motor

I'm not sure how common this situation is, does not seem very frequent.
Out of 20+ responses, only 1 other person, has mentioned encountering this "problem".

DrkAngel: I too have a 2009 Currie Ezip Trailz with the XYD-16 motor. I made the 16t mod and now have a clicking noise when the motor is used. The chain and sprocket look slightly out of alignment so I'm going to try the "S" shaped bend in the motor mounting plate. There seems to be a dead link to the image you posted once? Not sure of the exact location right now, but I was wondering if you could re-post the image so I can get an idea of how much I'm going to need to bend the plate.

To anyone attempting to remove a set-in flywheel, I strongly recommend a large strong vice. I bent the spanner wrench on first attempt. My vice isn't very strong. It wouldn't crush the flywheel, but it would hold it, so I cut a notch in the flywheel and stuck a washer in it to hold inner and outer rings together. Sheered the washer. Tried a screw driver bit and shattered that. Went to an auto shop and borrowed their vice. Took less than a minute to squeeze the flywheel tight enough (listen for crunching noise) and twist the wheel off.

BTW: Love the Sphere. The suggestions here are great! Love my eZip too. Looking at further upgrades next spring. Batteries and longer distance are my greatest concerns, now that I have almost enough speed.

[DrkAngel]

When I did the S bend, in a vise, it bent under the gear portion of the motor.
Before reattaching the motor, I ground that area flush.



Highly recommend the T-Plug mod.

[DrkAngel]

Standard motor freewheel is a 20T LHS and provides a 16 mph typical top speed.
I've only found 2 different compatible, replacements.

The first, the one I recommend, is the ACS Southpaw.
At 16T, it provides a 25% speed increase, (20 mph), and "notches" for easy removal.



The second is a 22T, available from Staton-inc.com, for a 10% torque increase, with a similar speed decrease.
A nearly identical construction, to the EZip OEM freewheel, goes on nicely, but requires a machine shop, for removal.



Click on above pictures, to access links.

I provide these links ... because some rear work, spokes, etc, will require the oem freewheel be destroyed, during removal.

See my post on broken spokes, and the cure?

[slats]

Thanks Drkangel, I,m going to try this with my ezip. I can only get the Fat southpaw ATM , would that make any difference?
Slats

[DrkAngel]

Thanks Drkangel, I,m going to try this with my ezip. I can only get the Fat southpaw ATM , would that make any difference?
Slats

ACS Southpaw 16T is the recommended - 1/2 x 1/8
Do a search for "ACS southpaw 16T", more sources.

(14T will not work!)
(1/2 x 3/16 will not work, with standard eZip chain.)

Not sure what the "Fat southpaw ATM" is.
Can you provide a link?

[slats]

Hi DrkAngel, thanks for the quick reply.
This is the link to chain reaction where they don't have any 16T in the southpaw anymore but they have a "Fat" version in 16T - which has something to do with "grinding" BMX from what i can work out. I think the teeth might be bigger or wider in some way to keep the chain on when the BMXers do tricks?
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Sear ... aw+acs+16T
Chain reactions would be the cheapest I can fine, even with posting from the UK.
I'm in Melbourne Aust and the postage from US for Amazon is about $100 for this $20 item. Other sites in Aust have the item as comparatively expensive eg $50 and postage $30 or $40. I might just have to bit the bullet because it sounds like a great mod.

Steve

[slats]

Drkangel, Sorry, i just looked again and it is not 1/8th . It is 3/16th, so it doesn't meet the specifications. I'll keep looking . http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=54098

Steve

[bgnome]

3/16" is fine. i think they do this to allow for multispeed chain use. you can still use singlespeed 1/8" chain with it. i do not know what the "fat" difference is. the bmx grinding just refers to switching the chain to left side drive, which is what the southpaw was designed for.

[DrkAngel]

Drkangel, Sorry, i just looked again and it is not 1/8th . It is 3/16th, so it doesn't meet the specifications. I'll keep looking . http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=54098

Steve

I don't believe that 3/16" wide will work with 1/8" wide chain ...
However, 3/16" chain should work with 1/8" motor sprocket ... ?

1/2 x 3/16, 415, 415H chain should be readily available.

[slats]

Yes, thanks guys, that makes sense. 3/8" chain would fit the 3/8" freewheel and OK on a 1/8th motor sprocket.
Cheers,
Steve

[DrkAngel]

Yes, thanks guys, that makes sense. 3/8" chain would fit the 3/8" freewheel and OK on a 1/8th motor sprocket.
Cheers,
Steve

3/16" chain, not 3/8".
Keep us informed on how well it works!

[slats]

Fractions huh. I should have listened more in school. but you're saying that a 3/16" chain would be fine on the 1/8" sprocket without slipping or anything.
I just bought on ebay from patsbelair for us$32 the LONG YIH Co. 7 Speed Freewheel 11-30t ,11-32t, 11-34t .
I'm running the ezip on ping lifepo4s . I bought 2 15AH for US$ 670 and put them in the curry boxes. Ping was really helpful with the wiring and advice with quite a few emails and pics going back and forth. my ride to work is 12 Km along a dedicated bike track following a creek and I've even started peddling a bit to get in the spirit with the lycra mob. I kept it to 24 volts, i was a bit nervous about cooking the motor.
Anyway, if the parts arrive, i'll start putting it together at easter .... if not then it will be July.
It would be nice to go a bit faster. drkangel, are you on 36v with your ezip and these mods?
Steve

[DrkAngel]

Fractions huh. I should have listened more in school. but you're saying that a 3/16" chain would be fine on the 1/8" sprocket without slipping or anything.
I just bought on ebay from patsbelair for us$32 the LONG YIH Co. 7 Speed Freewheel 11-30t ,11-32t, 11-34t .
I'm running the ezip on ping lifepo4s . I bought 2 15AH for US$ 670 and put them in the curry boxes. Ping was really helpful with the wiring and advice with quite a few emails and pics going back and forth. my ride to work is 12 Km along a dedicated bike track following a creek and I've even started peddling a bit to get in the spirit with the lycra mob. I kept it to 24 volts, i was a bit nervous about cooking the motor.
Anyway, if the parts arrive, i'll start putting it together at easter .... if not then it will be July.
It would be nice to go a bit faster. drkangel, are you on 36v with your ezip and these mods?
Steve

1/8" = 2/16"
3/16" chain is only 1/16" inch wider, should work fine with 1/8"(2/16") motor sprocket.

I am presently running 4 eBikes 2 at 25.9V (Li-ion & Lipo).

1. A 2008 Trailz with:
Re-hubbed motor wheel
16T upgrade
Long-Yih 11-32T freewheel
23 (screaming) mph, some assist to 25mph
3000+ miles

2. 2009 Women's Trailz (my "Stepthrough") with:
"Properly" re-spoked rear wheel
16T upgrade (required motor bracket "S-bend")
Long-Yih 11-32T freewheel
Big comfy seat w\suspension post & 2.125 Whitewalls (tough to keep clean)
20 (smooth-quiet) mph, some assist to 23mph
2222 miles (just confirmed)

And 2 at 37V upgraded Li-ion (recycled "Home Made")

3. 2008 Mountain Trailz
Big comfy seat
Homemade studded tires (at present)
oem 24-36V controller
23 mph cruising some assist to 27mph
3500 miles+ (most all at 36V)

4. 2008 Mountain Trailz
Big comfy seat
Added 36V controller
16T upgrade
11-34T freewheel
2.125 street tires
27mph motor only, some assist 30++ mph
3000+ miles at 37v "Homemade" Li-ion

I do plan on a 44.4V add-on pack, 30mph motor only. (30 mph is my max eBike target speed.)

My eMotorcycle, on the other hand, should be 65mph capable.
Projected to be operational by Summer.
Have:
Motor - Genuine ETEK 48V 150amp (8HP continuous 15HP surges)
Alltrax AXE 24-48V 300amp controller (programmable, 60V max)
8kWh Lipo "44.4V 172.8Ah"
Might add 11.1V "module" for 55.5V expressway speeds.

Still need donor motorcycle. Aero "pocket rocket".
Would like to pull 130lb of motor, transmission, exhaust, battery, gas tank etc
To keep oem weight.

Aerodynamic "fairing" will be built and added, will double range, at highway speeds!

[vansingela]

I just purchased a 2008 EZip, but I am a little disappointed with the top speed -- I am looking at doing this upgrade. Is it advised to upgrade the motor as well, or is the southpaw enough?

[DrkAngel]

I just purchased a 2008 EZip, but I am a little disappointed with the top speed -- I am looking at doing this upgrade. Is it advised to upgrade the motor as well, or is the southpaw enough?

This 16T upgrade will push you, from 16mph, to 20mph. (25% speed increase)
Removal of oem freewheel will probably be difficult ... motored tight for years, if bike is used.

If you have the 24V 450w motor, there is no reasonable, (motor), upgrade.

Good chance your controller is 36V capable!
Can bump up speed ... towards 50%.