my first build: brompton at 30 mph

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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby cwah » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:38 pm

Had the diagnostic from Lyen finally: The FET has burnt.

Probably too much amps or wrong hall/phase sequence. Have to send back the controller for reparation.
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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby cwah » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:58 am

Quick update on my brompton:
- Purchased a spare 72V 45A controller from zenid:
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http://www.zenid.com/controller.htm

Received it within 2 days (in the UK). It doesn't have regen or can't be configured, but it's a very good spare controller.

- Put my battery in a camera bag:
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Here is the folded brompton:
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It rolls!!! :D

It goes fast too. I don't have a speedometer on the brompton yet (as the cycle analyst plug wasn't compatible), but I think I'm around 25-30mph. :D


Almost there. The controller is not that stealthy... I may put it inside the bag. Not sure how to solve that yet.
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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby wesnewell » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:20 pm

cwah wrote:Quick update on my brompton:
- Purchased a spare 72V 45A controller from zenid:
Received it within 2 days (in the UK). It doesn't have regen or can't be configured, but it's a very good spare controller.

Actually, it does have regen braking along with other festures. You just have to enable them. I've been using one for quite a while.
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I bought the two I have direct from china suppliers. One for $37, and the other $33 iirc. That included shipping to the US.
Mongoose 26" FS MTB bike $99, yescomusa.com 48V 1000W rear hub kit $276, Hua Tong 72V 40A controller $35, 10ah 24s lipo $275=40+mph, range=45 miles @20mph
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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby cwah » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:09 pm

Thanks. Going to see how I can enable regen :)

Quick field report from today cycling:
- I'm actually cycling slower than usual because I don't want to go too fast. Going fast on these small wheel seem dangerous. Some cyclist are faster than me, I think I'm taking too much precautions :lol:


Otherwise, in term of stealthyness, it's not there yet at all:
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Everybody noticed it was an electric bike. Have been stopped 3 times in my little driving tour:
- Asked me twice about the bike price. I lied (costed me £300 bought it second hand)
- Asked me advice about electric spare
- And 1 guy said "look, an electric bike".

Even though the controller has the frame colour, it's not stealthy at all. It definitely has to be inside the bag
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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby cwah » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:10 pm

I'm thinking about moving all my connectors from my controller to an unique connector:
D-SUB 37 Pin Female Solder DB37 Type Connector x 10 Pcs | eBay

Could work for everything except for the batteries. So I'd have this multiplug connector + batteries/phase wires connectors together. Would that work?
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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby cwah » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:05 pm

wesnewell wrote:
cwah wrote:Quick update on my brompton:
- Purchased a spare 72V 45A controller from zenid:
Received it within 2 days (in the UK). It doesn't have regen or can't be configured, but it's a very good spare controller.

Actually, it does have regen braking along with other festures. You just have to enable them. I've been using one for quite a while.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29469
I bought the two I have direct from china suppliers. One for $37, and the other $33 iirc. That included shipping to the US.


Haven't found the regen feature on the controller. I put a post on the thread. Any idea which one I should use?
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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby cwah » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:40 pm

I received my MPX connectors.
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They are really small. I don't know how they can be rated 35A continuous (60A peak)


They are however excellent to merge my phase wires and batteries wire into 1 plug. Here is my soldering:
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All the wires are very very closes. I'm afraid of spark and I'm not sure it's safe to use them like this.
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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby cwah » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:32 pm

I changed it with DB25 connectors as the previous one look too dangerous:
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It accepts 5A/pin. So 5 pins for the battery cables (25A) and 3 pins for the phase wires (15A). And at least 1 pin distance between each to prevent short

Hope it's going to work.
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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby Toango » Wed May 02, 2012 8:01 pm

Good to see your brompton working. Hows the brakes stopping power at full speed?
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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby cwah » Thu May 03, 2012 5:42 am

The brake are less efficient than my mountain bike disc brake. I tend to go way below 30 mph, usually around 17-23 mph because it's too dangerous otherwise. Especially with the brompton standard brakes.

I'd need to upgrade my brake but don't know where to look as all brompton part are very bespoke :lol:
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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby oatnet » Thu May 03, 2012 10:24 am

I highly approve of your front-mount pack. If you want to hard-mount it up there so it doesn't move around and add its own steering inputs, a couple of clamps and a pelican 1200/1300/2100 could hold it tight. Here are some examples:

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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby cwah » Sat May 05, 2012 9:52 am

Yeah, I'm thinking about a hard pack. But I'm also trying to keep everything light as it's still a small folding bike.

I'll add a lot of foam to prevent the lipo from bouncing on vibration, and protect them from shock.
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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby cwah » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:13 pm

My brompton is following me everywhere!!

Soreditch:
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Oxford circus:
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Picadilly:
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:)



When I came back this evening to pick up my bike, I've seen a secret admirer for my bike:
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Unfortunately, it's not for sale ;)
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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby oatnet » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:53 pm

cwah wrote:When I came back this evening to pick up my bike, I've seen a secret admirer for my bike:
Unfortunately, it's not for sale ;)


That is the best praise you can hope for - and you can pay it forward by teaching your admirer how to build his own. :D

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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby aaronlim » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:01 pm

is that metallic netting? what's it called and where can i get it?

I was thinking building a cage for my battery but i think the net will work.
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Re: my first build: brompton at 30 mph

Postby cwah » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:28 pm

oatnet, if only it was true... don't believe in that lol :)

Aaronlim, I purchased a Pacsafe protection for bag. You can find them pretty much anywhere:
http://pacsafe.com/

You can just type pacsafe on ebay or amazon and you should find them :)

I've got it second hand from ebay :)
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