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Postby grindz145 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:57 am

That display alone is trick! Ill be looking forward to getting one.
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby gestalt » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:09 pm

Yeah, that level of display is what I've been looking for for some time. Like a cycle anylyst on steroids. From the looks of it I'm on the hook for two of these controllers complete with bms which can safe me the trouble of fooling around with cell logs to do my cell monitoring. As soon as I see a bit of testing and review I will most likely be hook, line and sinker.

Its about time a controller/bms/display unit where all of the components work together seamlessly came around. Well worth the added cost over the usual infineon controllers that everyone has been building with. I really would like to see this product set the bar for what is expected in controller technology. I'll be waiting with bated breath.
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby gensem » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:06 am

Any updates on the 150v-200v version?

Have you tested the regular 100v version with the colossus already?

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Postby wojtek » Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:25 pm

subscribed and waiting for more news
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby mat h physics » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:13 pm

Looking forward to this. Posting to have easy ref to the tread. Any updates would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby gensem » Thu May 10, 2012 12:15 pm

any updates?
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby Arlo1 » Thu May 10, 2012 2:04 pm

Isnt true sign wave a false hope??? I meen when you look at one phase yes a true sign controller might help but once you eliminate the amount of time the other two phases are energized off the phase you are looking at the amount of the wave form you actualy get to put power into is alot flatter!
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby liveforphysics » Thu May 10, 2012 3:54 pm

Wow! Somehow missed this thread until now! But Wow!

Very very cool stuff! Finally a controller running my favorite Mosfet and favorite Mosfet package too! So you guys know, there is more power to be had at 50-100v than 100-150v. The only reason I run 116v is because my controller all ready uses 150v mosfets. (It could be more powerful with 100v FETs, but since it's got 150v FETs, I take advantage of them).

This is very exciting stuff! Beautiful display too!


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nicobie wrote:Doesn't LFP run a sine-wave controller on his beast of a bike?

I don't think so, it is a Sevcon. However he uses a Sin/Cos encoder rather than hall sensors.


My Sevcon gen 4 is a true sinus controller, and uses a Sine/Cosine encoder.
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby deVries » Thu May 10, 2012 5:55 pm

Hi, any availability ETA or Beta Test Pricing? :?:

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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby toolman2 » Thu May 10, 2012 7:28 pm

liveforphysics wrote:Wow! Somehow missed this thread until now! But Wow!

Very very cool stuff! Finally a controller running my favorite Mosfet and favorite Mosfet package too! So you guys know, there is more power to be had at 50-100v than 100-150v. The only reason I run 116v is because my controller all ready uses 150v mosfets. (It could be more powerful with 100v FETs, but since it's got 150v FETs, I take advantage of them).

This is very exciting stuff! Beautiful display too!


SplinterOz wrote:
nicobie wrote:Doesn't LFP run a sine-wave controller on his beast of a bike?

I don't think so, it is a Sevcon. However he uses a Sin/Cos encoder rather than hall sensors.


My Sevcon gen 4 is a true sinus controller, and uses a Sine/Cosine encoder.


we all share your excitement luke, but there is a bit of the all to familiar 'so how about an update?' for the last month or 2.. :|
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby MadRhino » Thu May 10, 2012 7:59 pm

Looks serious to me.
Maybe a tad more complicated than expected. Murphy's law and finance, and sh*t happens and testing again you know. :mrgreen:
I bet we hear from them soon, and I want to have one to try.
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby full-throttle » Thu May 10, 2012 8:11 pm

Last I've heard from them was a few days ago. There's a 4-day holiday over there at the moment.

I'm expecting a beta unit to arrive in a few weeks, so any curious aussies in Melbourne are welcome to try it out.
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby Arlo1 » Mon May 14, 2012 12:55 am

liveforphysics wrote:Wow! Somehow missed this thread until now! But Wow!

Very very cool stuff! Finally a controller running my favorite Mosfet and favorite Mosfet package too! So you guys know, there is more power to be had at 50-100v than 100-150v. The only reason I run 116v is because my controller all ready uses 150v mosfets. (It could be more powerful with 100v FETs, but since it's got 150v FETs, I take advantage of them).

This is very exciting stuff! Beautiful display too!


I realy think there is a reason why the big car guys are at much higher voltages. For ebike stuff I think the irfp4468 is AWESOME! But once you want 50kw or more..... Im not so sure.
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby ALLVLTS » Sun May 27, 2012 10:30 am

Hey, I'm new here, been obsessively lurking for a couple months now (I'll post my build later on down the road).
Anyway, I wanted to see if we can get an update on this, as it contains the missing links to my build. At this point I am ready and willing to purchase the entire package (at the quoted prices)- Max-e controller, BMS, DC-DC converter, and possibly throttle. I just don't see a fully integrated system with as many features as this anywhere else in the small EV market, and it is exactly what I want.

So, I know there are a couple beta units floating around, any other updates? How far off is production at this point?
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby mdd0127 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:00 pm

I really hope that things are going well for these guys. I want to try one of their controllers asap.
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby ALLVLTS » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:18 am

I hate to say it, but I needed to move forward on my project design so I just bought a different controller and other components. If this doesn't turn out to be vaporware anyway then they just lost a customer from lack of communication. :|
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby mdd0127 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:51 am

Getting new, ground breaking stuff to market is really tricky! I've definitely let down more than a few folks with my ultimate e-bike project. It's really hard to predict the obstacles that come up when you're doing something that no one else has ever done before. I'm just hoping that they didn't get eaten up by some big military contract or other corporation that's going to shelve the technology to prevent competition. There's no controller out there like this that would be suitable for an ultralight electric motorcycle.
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby deVries » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:47 am

ALLVLTS wrote:I hate to say it, but I needed to move forward on my project design so I just bought a different controller and other components. If this doesn't turn out to be vaporware anyway then they just lost a customer from lack of communication. :|


Most project offerings done by hobby time on ES, rather than paid time, take at least triple+++ the predicted time to complete. Rarely has any offering been done in less than 4x more time than the project offering "predicted" that someone can actually buy or make. ;)

We are far too optimistic & hopeful. :lol:
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby Arlo1 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:53 am

Yeh look at colossus. I have 2.5 years into it but I have only ~ 40 hours into trying to make it run. I have been so dam busy this last two years not to mention learning how to build a contoller and understand inductance! Look at the BMS that took over 2 years to get completed! This forum is full of very smart people but when they are that smart some have ADD and some just plain bite off more then they can chew lol. Its all good!
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby SamTexas » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:10 am

Looks very promising. Please provide a realistic date and price for your products.
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby mdd0127 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:07 pm

Arlo1 wrote:Yeh look at colossus. I have 2.5 years into it but I have only ~ 40 hours into trying to make it run. I have been so dam busy this last two years not to mention learning how to build a contoller and understand inductance! Look at the BMS that took over 2 years to get completed! This forum is full of very smart people but when they are that smart some have ADD and some just plain bite off more then they can chew lol. Its all good!



I was recently asked what it would take for me to finish my bike and two things came to mind.
I need time to focus on it.....and ONLY it, and I need a partner/helper to take some of the load off and help keep me focused and motivated.
When a persons brain is constantly coming up with new ideas and projects, it's really easy to get distracted.....then after a few setbacks.....burnt out!
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby Arlo1 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:31 pm

mdd0127 wrote:
Arlo1 wrote:Yeh look at colossus. I have 2.5 years into it but I have only ~ 40 hours into trying to make it run. I have been so dam busy this last two years not to mention learning how to build a contoller and understand inductance! Look at the BMS that took over 2 years to get completed! This forum is full of very smart people but when they are that smart some have ADD and some just plain bite off more then they can chew lol. Its all good!



I was recently asked what it would take for me to finish my bike and two things came to mind.
I need time to focus on it.....and ONLY it, and I need a partner/helper to take some of the load off and help keep me focused and motivated.
When a persons brain is constantly coming up with new ideas and projects, it's really easy to get distracted.....then after a few setbacks.....burnt out!

Yeah dude helper/friend who is interested... IM all alone up here. I have Gordo but he is busy traveling the world lol. I am trying my best to find a way to keep going a little on my stuff everyday! One thing is I put some of it on the kitchen table to put together so I can chat with the GF while IM working on it. Kinda helps. Also doesn't seem as hard to get motivated to get going on as going down stairs... Or to my shop 1.9km away.
I wonder if I'm lazy at times but I work 40 hours a week helping my boss run his business's while he is there and away with the nitro Harley. Then I work ~20 hr a week at my shop for my business then I still find 5-10 hr a week for this electric stuff so I can assure my self not lazy. Just borderline burnt out! But I have become good at juggling my time! :)
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby mdd0127 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:01 pm

We need to start an ES apprentice program so all of us that are knee deep in cool stuff can get some help!
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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby deVries » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:13 pm

mdd0127 wrote:We need to start an ES apprentice program so all of us that are knee deep in cool stuff can get some help!


You're too picky on where & when you can work. AmberWolf is tooo kool & nearby, but you don't want the heat. :oops:

Looks like Arlo1 is in a cool climate & can use the help too! :D

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Re: The true sine-wave (vectored) controller & electronics s

Postby mdd0127 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:25 pm

Amberwolf, Arlo and I are all really busy and we are the ones that need helpers. If we all got together none of us would get anything done except for having lots of great ideas and discussions! We all need someone to help us with the little stuff and keep us on track!

What am I waiting for?
I'm waiting for my head to quit hurting. I'm waiting for the check from selling my van to come in and some more of my stuff to sell so I can stock up on food and pick up a few more parts. I'm waiting for a good motor manufacturer to pop up.....(thud???). I'm waiting for a battery manufacturer with good products and quality control. I'm waiting for a true sine-wave controller and electronics set. :wink:
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