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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby Ypedal » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:24 am

i dont hear nothin from my HR's ( and i'm picky about sound.... me hates the 9C motors for that reason )
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby Paul_G » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:38 am

Ypedal wrote:i dont hear nothin from my HR's ( and i'm picky about sound.... me hates the 9C motors for that reason )


Street riding? That would point towards the plastic compound used in the Crazy Bobs then.

I'll try a set...thanks
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby MadRhino » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:08 am

The Holy Roller has a softer gum than a Crazy Bob, and definitely quieter. The Schwalbe though, has stronger construction.
Try the Kenda Kniption in wire beaded version, dual compound. This one is sticky and quiet.

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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby Cowardlyduck » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:09 pm

Paul_G wrote: I could not live with the noise a Crazy Bob makes and dumped them in the trash and bought several Hookworks for backup. The Crazy Bobs seemed to be made out of plastic and the Hookworms rubber.

What noise?
Next time dump them my way. ;)

I got my other Crazy Bob on the front last night. Ride to work this morning was fine. Way quieter than my Berm Masters were.
They also seem like they are made from rubber to me...not plastic.

Paul, maybe you got fakes or a bad batch?

MadRhino wrote:Try the Kenda Kniption in wire beaded version, dual compound. This one is sticky and quiet.

Now I like the look of that. :D
Might have to try a pair once I've worn through my Berm Masters and 4 Crazy Bobs, which with the way I ride shouldn't be too long. :D

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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby iovaykind » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:23 am

No one has suggested CST cyclops 24 x 2.4 yet? It's basically the hookworms, but now double ply. I've been using it for months now and I love them. Best part is that they're less than $20 shipped
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby motomech » Thu May 03, 2012 3:13 pm

Appearantly, the 24" Hookworms are still available. This store, for one, still has them,

http://www.bikebling.com/Maxxis-Hookwor ... orm-24.htm

How does the overall height of a 24" X 2.5 tire compare with a standard 26" road tire, say a 1.9?
I'm wondering if I change over, how much the bike might be lowered.
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby iovaykind » Thu May 03, 2012 3:18 pm

It'll probably stay relatively the same.. might be a bit lower but nothing which you can notice except for the comfort it will provide
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby motomech » Thu May 03, 2012 3:29 pm

I figured, thanks
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby maydaverave » Sat May 12, 2012 6:48 pm

I Have a Specialized P24 which I love but not real Impressed with the Specialized Rhythm Lites that came on it. The tires are huge But very soft. Already got a flat on the rear tire, a slice about 3/8ths of an inch long. I patched the tube but don't trust the tire to last much longer with the slit in it. I'm Having a hard time finding a replacement. Looking for a 24*2.0 inch slick with inverted tread, strong puncture resistant bead, and low rolling resistance for city riding. Something very much like the hookworms that I can't find in this size. The tioga power blocks look good but I have read are very weak for city riding same with most of the bmx race tires. :cry:
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby motomech » Sat May 12, 2012 7:16 pm

maydaverave wrote:I Have a Specialized P24 which I love but not real Impressed with the Specialized Rhythm Lites that came on it. The tires are huge But very soft. Already got a flat on the rear tire, a slice about 3/8ths of an inch long. I patched the tube but don't trust the tire to last much longer with the slit in it. I'm Having a hard time finding a replacement. Looking for a 24*2.0 inch slick with inverted tread, strong puncture resistant bead, and low rolling resistance for city riding. Something very much like the hookworms that I can't find in this size. The tioga power blocks look good but I have read are very weak for city riding same with most of the bmx race tires. :cry:

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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby auraslip » Sat May 12, 2012 7:42 pm

CST cyclops are the older version of the maxxis hookworks. Maxxis and CST are the same companies. I have about 5 of them. Some with up to 10,000 miles on them. Great tire for $15. Yes they come in 24". I just got a 24" pair for $30 from my LBS.

I still haven't been able to figure out why hookworms cost so much more. Dual ply or something? I dunnu. You can't argue with 10,000 miles and no flats though.
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby maydaverave » Mon May 14, 2012 2:37 pm

auraslip wrote:CST cyclops are the older version of the maxxis hookworks. Maxxis and CST are the same companies. I have about 5 of them. Some with up to 10,000 miles on them. Great tire for $15. Yes they come in 24". I just got a 24" pair for $30 from my LBS.

I still haven't been able to figure out why hookworms cost so much more. Dual ply or something? I dunnu. You can't argue with 10,000 miles and no flats though.
Well i for one am guilty of assuming that if something cost more its better. My front tire went flat parked from a hole in the tube seam. I may have judged my tires unfairly. The cut is from an oyster shell which can cut anything and it barely went through the bead. Going to first try replacing the cheap paper thin tubes.
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby maydaverave » Mon May 14, 2012 10:15 pm

I put new tubes in my tires along with flat protector strips. Went for a ride and got a flat after a few miles. :evil: i rode all day on the patched tubes so not something left in the tire just tires with absolutely no protection.
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby maydaverave » Mon May 14, 2012 10:48 pm

The cst cyxlops 2.4 24inch tires are 10 bucks on amazon. Hmm hard to believe they could be any good at that price. Not much of a risk trying them out at least financialy.
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby auraslip » Mon May 14, 2012 11:19 pm

i have multiple pairs. some with 10,000 miles on them.

they are the same tire as the hook worm. just a slightly older mould
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby Kingfish » Thu May 17, 2012 12:47 pm

2-Ply 24” Hookworms are no longer available unless someone is sell their stash. Period. Last year I had one mounted on the rear of my 2WD and another on the trailer. The reason I didn’t have one mounted on the front was cos I couldn’t source another 2-Ply, so I went with the 26” 2-Ply Hookworm that I had in stock (and you know the rest of the story).

If you can find a 2-Ply Holy Roller, that in my mind would be a great quality replacement that is made by the same company. Don’t focus so much on the potential of road noise when traffic will be far louder. Look at the tire weight: Some of the tires out there have really thin sidewalls which offer nil-protection against pointy rocks and brush. I’ll say it one more time... Compare and contrast the weight of these models: A 2-Ply tire will weigh more, even with the Hookworm – that’s how I knew when the ply wasn't stated. No offense to Big Apples (I have a set), but those are beach tires: light thin walled as they should be. You want to focus on whether the carcass is Kevlar-lined (or “Aramid”), and if it isn’t – don’t bother cos nothing is tougher in the bicycle world, other than perhaps Schwalbe – and I have those too but not in a 2.5” wide tire. 8)

Beyond that, the next level of protection is moving to moped tires, and that’s a fitting challenge for both rim and tire in the 24” department.

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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby bzhwindtalker » Thu May 17, 2012 12:50 pm

I love my crazy boobs :) they are really versatile, they work well on road, on dirt trails, and they even do okay in the mud. plus they are quite cheap from chain reaction!
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby auraslip » Thu May 17, 2012 1:55 pm

If you are worried about flats, use tire liners and stans sealant along with DH tubes. I haven't had a flat for a year with my daily rider.
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby Cowardlyduck » Sun May 20, 2012 6:40 am

bzhwindtalker wrote:I love my crazy boobs :)

Bahahahahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kingfish wrote:Look at the tire weight

With that in mind, surely these would be alright then.
http://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/innova-swiftor-city-tire
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These are the heaviest 24x3.0" tire I've seen yet @ 1.5kg each. :shock:


Also, on a side not since it's not related to the OP really. I plan on getting these for off road use. :)
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby NeilP » Sun May 20, 2012 11:58 am

I find Crazy bob's are not great in the wet, very poor grip. Got to take it very slow on the corners now. Broke my thumb a few months back when I came off going around a corner, that I used to handle with no issues with knoblies of all sorts.. They are a very hard compound with poor grip. Put the mileage on them has been great. They have lasted a long time.
I just checked my 'logbook'. I put them on at 3517 miles. I am now up to 5200 miles and still they show little difference between front and rear wear.
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby remf » Sun May 20, 2012 8:30 pm

For me, Hookworms are a slippery mess in the rain, though excellent on dry road. I think Crazy Bobs are a better all round 2-ply 'moped tire' and they're still in production. CB's don't have the best puncture protection so I've been using both Mr. Tuffy's Ultralight & Panasonic Flataway Kevlar liners. So far I haven't had a flat in either but I wonder which is the better approach. Mr. Tuffy according to Mr. Tuffy.

From Mr. Tuffy's FAQ:

Q. How does Mr. Tuffy work?

A. Mr. Tuffy's hard outer layer deflects road debris and keeps it from puncturing the inner tube. The soft inner layer cushions the tube (actually protects it from the outer shell) and helps to prevent sidewall punctures. At times thorns or broken glass may stick in the Mr. Tuffy liner, but the constant movement of the poly-urethane liner grinds thorns into harmless sawdust and broken glass into sand.

Q. Does Mr. Tuffy work as well as Kevlar liners?

A. Kevlar is a microscopic weave of materials that work well at stopping bullets, but they don't provide much protection against a determined thorn, staple or piece of broken glass. Objects that stick in the liner tend to work their way through the weave and into the inner tube. Kevlar liners are far more expensive than Mr. Tuffy tire liners and are not as effective in preventing flat tires. Telling your friends that your tires are protected by Kevlar is pretty cool though … until you have a flat.
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby motomech » Mon May 21, 2012 1:40 pm

Ok, Received the Innova Skinny Kat 24" X 2.1" tire and these are my first impressions.

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Generaly, they are good. The only markings, aside from the size are the words, "King Wheel". Not sure if that means it is made by Kings Tire, a Chinese make of tire that is popular with the motorcycle enduro crowd or not. Speaking of motorcycle tires, this tire really is more motorcycle like than the bicycle tires I am familular with. The side-wall and overall carcuss is stiff enough that my plastic tire irons wouldn't cut it and I had to use one short motorcycle iron to m ount the tire. I suspect that this is about the largest tire that would fit this mini-motor wheel kit rim. I also installed a Thick Kenda "Thorn-resistent" tube so the overall mounting was a bit of a squeeze.
I rode and raced sport bikes for decades and I have a pretty good handle on compounds, so I gave it "the gouge your finger nail into it" test to see how long it would take the indentation to disappear and I would judge this tire to have a medium to hard compound. This and the amount of rubber where it meets the road should assure a good service life. As far as grip is concerned, I'll have to wait for a road test to comment on that.
Bottom line, I like what I see enough to order another and run them.
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby honore » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:53 pm

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Can anyone add to this list of wider 24inch tires with (what appear to be) more substantial treads (depth and mass) than is common to bicycle tires? The marketing dept seems to be calling these "motorcycle" tread. Whatever the target market... seems to be pedal beach cruisers so far... they look like they might be a good fit for ebikes.

I realize there is no telling short of user reviews what the actual life or performance of the compounds may be. Particularly since the OEM and other info seems to be lacking on some of these. But they certainly look promising.

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http://www.bikeworldusa.us/Nirve-FatAss ... QFRSP4.htm
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QF ... ASZHP0WD6M
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http://www.amazon.com/Innova-Wide-Black ... fatti-0+24
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http://store.electrabike.com/eSource/ec ... 88336.aspx
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http://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/ ... at-24-tire

Do like the look of that innova. looks like a lighter version of the Heidenau K56 17x2.50 moped tire.
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Any more in this category of "motorcycle tread" 24 inch bicycle tires?
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby honore » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:38 pm

Innova appears to come in a wider version called the "cool cat"
http://www.choppersus.com/store/product ... -Cool-Cat/
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