Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby Kingfish » Thu May 17, 2012 12:47 pm

2-Ply 24” Hookworms are no longer available unless someone is sell their stash. Period. Last year I had one mounted on the rear of my 2WD and another on the trailer. The reason I didn’t have one mounted on the front was cos I couldn’t source another 2-Ply, so I went with the 26” 2-Ply Hookworm that I had in stock (and you know the rest of the story).

If you can find a 2-Ply Holy Roller, that in my mind would be a great quality replacement that is made by the same company. Don’t focus so much on the potential of road noise when traffic will be far louder. Look at the tire weight: Some of the tires out there have really thin sidewalls which offer nil-protection against pointy rocks and brush. I’ll say it one more time... Compare and contrast the weight of these models: A 2-Ply tire will weigh more, even with the Hookworm – that’s how I knew when the ply wasn't stated. No offense to Big Apples (I have a set), but those are beach tires: light thin walled as they should be. You want to focus on whether the carcass is Kevlar-lined (or “Aramid”), and if it isn’t – don’t bother cos nothing is tougher in the bicycle world, other than perhaps Schwalbe – and I have those too but not in a 2.5” wide tire. 8)

Beyond that, the next level of protection is moving to moped tires, and that’s a fitting challenge for both rim and tire in the 24” department.

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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby bzhwindtalker » Thu May 17, 2012 12:50 pm

I love my crazy boobs :) they are really versatile, they work well on road, on dirt trails, and they even do okay in the mud. plus they are quite cheap from chain reaction!
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby auraslip » Thu May 17, 2012 1:55 pm

If you are worried about flats, use tire liners and stans sealant along with DH tubes. I haven't had a flat for a year with my daily rider.
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby Cowardlyduck » Sun May 20, 2012 6:40 am

bzhwindtalker wrote:I love my crazy boobs :)

Bahahahahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kingfish wrote:Look at the tire weight

With that in mind, surely these would be alright then.
http://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/innova-swiftor-city-tire
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These are the heaviest 24x3.0" tire I've seen yet @ 1.5kg each. :shock:


Also, on a side not since it's not related to the OP really. I plan on getting these for off road use. :)
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=12381
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby NeilP » Sun May 20, 2012 11:58 am

I find Crazy bob's are not great in the wet, very poor grip. Got to take it very slow on the corners now. Broke my thumb a few months back when I came off going around a corner, that I used to handle with no issues with knoblies of all sorts.. They are a very hard compound with poor grip. Put the mileage on them has been great. They have lasted a long time.
I just checked my 'logbook'. I put them on at 3517 miles. I am now up to 5200 miles and still they show little difference between front and rear wear.
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby remf » Sun May 20, 2012 8:30 pm

For me, Hookworms are a slippery mess in the rain, though excellent on dry road. I think Crazy Bobs are a better all round 2-ply 'moped tire' and they're still in production. CB's don't have the best puncture protection so I've been using both Mr. Tuffy's Ultralight & Panasonic Flataway Kevlar liners. So far I haven't had a flat in either but I wonder which is the better approach. Mr. Tuffy according to Mr. Tuffy.

From Mr. Tuffy's FAQ:

Q. How does Mr. Tuffy work?

A. Mr. Tuffy's hard outer layer deflects road debris and keeps it from puncturing the inner tube. The soft inner layer cushions the tube (actually protects it from the outer shell) and helps to prevent sidewall punctures. At times thorns or broken glass may stick in the Mr. Tuffy liner, but the constant movement of the poly-urethane liner grinds thorns into harmless sawdust and broken glass into sand.

Q. Does Mr. Tuffy work as well as Kevlar liners?

A. Kevlar is a microscopic weave of materials that work well at stopping bullets, but they don't provide much protection against a determined thorn, staple or piece of broken glass. Objects that stick in the liner tend to work their way through the weave and into the inner tube. Kevlar liners are far more expensive than Mr. Tuffy tire liners and are not as effective in preventing flat tires. Telling your friends that your tires are protected by Kevlar is pretty cool though … until you have a flat.
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby motomech » Mon May 21, 2012 1:40 pm

Ok, Received the Innova Skinny Kat 24" X 2.1" tire and these are my first impressions.

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Generaly, they are good. The only markings, aside from the size are the words, "King Wheel". Not sure if that means it is made by Kings Tire, a Chinese make of tire that is popular with the motorcycle enduro crowd or not. Speaking of motorcycle tires, this tire really is more motorcycle like than the bicycle tires I am familular with. The side-wall and overall carcuss is stiff enough that my plastic tire irons wouldn't cut it and I had to use one short motorcycle iron to m ount the tire. I suspect that this is about the largest tire that would fit this mini-motor wheel kit rim. I also installed a Thick Kenda "Thorn-resistent" tube so the overall mounting was a bit of a squeeze.
I rode and raced sport bikes for decades and I have a pretty good handle on compounds, so I gave it "the gouge your finger nail into it" test to see how long it would take the indentation to disappear and I would judge this tire to have a medium to hard compound. This and the amount of rubber where it meets the road should assure a good service life. As far as grip is concerned, I'll have to wait for a road test to comment on that.
Bottom line, I like what I see enough to order another and run them.
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby honore » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:53 pm

I registered to follow this thread.

Can anyone add to this list of wider 24inch tires with (what appear to be) more substantial treads (depth and mass) than is common to bicycle tires? The marketing dept seems to be calling these "motorcycle" tread. Whatever the target market... seems to be pedal beach cruisers so far... they look like they might be a good fit for ebikes.

I realize there is no telling short of user reviews what the actual life or performance of the compounds may be. Particularly since the OEM and other info seems to be lacking on some of these. But they certainly look promising.

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http://www.bikeworldusa.us/Nirve-FatAss ... QFRSP4.htm
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QF ... ASZHP0WD6M
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http://www.amazon.com/Innova-Wide-Black ... fatti-0+24
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http://store.electrabike.com/eSource/ec ... 88336.aspx
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http://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/ ... at-24-tire

Do like the look of that innova. looks like a lighter version of the Heidenau K56 17x2.50 moped tire.
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https://www.treatland.tv/heidenau-K56-m ... 0-tire.htm

Any more in this category of "motorcycle tread" 24 inch bicycle tires?
Please post links!
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby honore » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:38 pm

Innova appears to come in a wider version called the "cool cat"
http://www.choppersus.com/store/product ... -Cool-Cat/
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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby Cowardlyduck » Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:31 pm

Well after all the discussion, I went and bought these last night.
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=3244
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I, like Paul (sorry I didn't agree with you to begin with), now think that Crazy Bobs are dangerous. They let go in the wet, don't pull up when needed, and corner like a kids ride on plastic toy!

Hopefully the above tires do the job. I was set on finding some 3" wide one's (like Nirve Fat Ass), but it was going to be too expensive and difficult to get em, so I gave up.
Hopefully these DMR's do the job well...will find out soon enough. :D

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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby dogman » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:18 am

Here's the link for that tire, in 24"

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=11539

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Re: Best tires for ebike mtb's road use 24inch

Postby maydaverave » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:37 am

I have been riding on some odyssey aitken 24x2.25" tires for a few weeks now and so far I love them. 80 to 100 psi, light,strong, very fast, great grip and handling on road or off. Wish I could upload a pic from my phone.
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