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Hello,
I want to add a kit to my MTB. I want to use that bike both during weekends and weekdays. In weekdays, sometimes the bike may need to be parked in the middle of my city, Barcelona, and many bike burglars abound. I am going to use pinheads and two Us. But the problem is what to do with the battery. I do not want to have to carry the battery with me all the time.
I have been thinking about it, and I have found a place to hide a small 12s2p package of Sony VTC4 in my bike, so I could leave that small package at the bike.
I have been thinking about the bottle battery with controller incorporated sold by BMSbattery (but without the low quality cells sold by BMSbattery):
http://www.bmsbattery.com/36v/567-bottle-ebike-battery-controller.html
I have thought about purchasing the controller and the guides above the holes of the bottle water, as well as the bottle battery case, but not the cells. And then connect my small battery package to the controller. As a consequence, when parked, the bike would look like as if I have taken the bottle battery with me, when in fact, the bottle battery case is at home (and the small package remains hidden at the bike).
Here come the problems:
1. BMSbattery sells the bottle battery with the controller incorporated, either S06S or S06P:
http://www.bmsbattery.com/36v/567-bottle-ebike-battery-controller.html
But when I try to buy only the controller and the bottle case (but no cells), I cannot, since BMS only sells the S06P apparently:
http://www.bmsbattery.com/controller/578-36v-s06p-integrated-controller-for-new-bottle-case.html
Can I buy a S06S but not in box form:
http://www.bmsbattery.com/controller/546-s06-250w-imitation-torque-square-wave-controller.html
but in the "integrated" shape?
2. Can the S06S work without LED/LCD and PAS? For stealthiness reasons, I would like to use it only with a throttle (and a speed sensor: I have read in this forum the S12S, and I guess that translates equally into the S06S (yes?), requires a speed sensor in order to work smoothly http://www.bmsbattery.com/controller/546-s06-250w-imitation-torque-square-wave-controller.html), but it seems the S06S is quite intertwined with the LCD, so I fear if the S06S needs the LCD to work
3. Does the S06S work well with the Q100C? ES member d8veh said the Q100 does not work too well with the S06P. It seems the reason is the S06P is sensorless (S06S is Hall sensored), but from what I read, it was not 100% clear.
4. Can I connect my small battery package to the "integrated" S06S controller (i.e., without the bottle battery at the bike)? Or that controller can only be used when a bottle battery is put on top of the guides? This is a very basic question, but just I want to make sure there is no "proprietary" connection between the "integrated" controller and the BMSbattery's bottle battery.
To sum up, I would like the Q100C, the S06S "integrated", the guides for the bottle battery, a bottle battery case (with no cells), a throttle, a speed sensor, and separately, to purchase a small Sony VTC4 package. Is that feasible?
I want to add a kit to my MTB. I want to use that bike both during weekends and weekdays. In weekdays, sometimes the bike may need to be parked in the middle of my city, Barcelona, and many bike burglars abound. I am going to use pinheads and two Us. But the problem is what to do with the battery. I do not want to have to carry the battery with me all the time.
I have been thinking about it, and I have found a place to hide a small 12s2p package of Sony VTC4 in my bike, so I could leave that small package at the bike.
I have been thinking about the bottle battery with controller incorporated sold by BMSbattery (but without the low quality cells sold by BMSbattery):
http://www.bmsbattery.com/36v/567-bottle-ebike-battery-controller.html
I have thought about purchasing the controller and the guides above the holes of the bottle water, as well as the bottle battery case, but not the cells. And then connect my small battery package to the controller. As a consequence, when parked, the bike would look like as if I have taken the bottle battery with me, when in fact, the bottle battery case is at home (and the small package remains hidden at the bike).
Here come the problems:
1. BMSbattery sells the bottle battery with the controller incorporated, either S06S or S06P:
http://www.bmsbattery.com/36v/567-bottle-ebike-battery-controller.html
But when I try to buy only the controller and the bottle case (but no cells), I cannot, since BMS only sells the S06P apparently:
http://www.bmsbattery.com/controller/578-36v-s06p-integrated-controller-for-new-bottle-case.html
Can I buy a S06S but not in box form:
http://www.bmsbattery.com/controller/546-s06-250w-imitation-torque-square-wave-controller.html
but in the "integrated" shape?
2. Can the S06S work without LED/LCD and PAS? For stealthiness reasons, I would like to use it only with a throttle (and a speed sensor: I have read in this forum the S12S, and I guess that translates equally into the S06S (yes?), requires a speed sensor in order to work smoothly http://www.bmsbattery.com/controller/546-s06-250w-imitation-torque-square-wave-controller.html), but it seems the S06S is quite intertwined with the LCD, so I fear if the S06S needs the LCD to work
3. Does the S06S work well with the Q100C? ES member d8veh said the Q100 does not work too well with the S06P. It seems the reason is the S06P is sensorless (S06S is Hall sensored), but from what I read, it was not 100% clear.
4. Can I connect my small battery package to the "integrated" S06S controller (i.e., without the bottle battery at the bike)? Or that controller can only be used when a bottle battery is put on top of the guides? This is a very basic question, but just I want to make sure there is no "proprietary" connection between the "integrated" controller and the BMSbattery's bottle battery.
To sum up, I would like the Q100C, the S06S "integrated", the guides for the bottle battery, a bottle battery case (with no cells), a throttle, a speed sensor, and separately, to purchase a small Sony VTC4 package. Is that feasible?