new eZip motor

General Discussion about electric bicycles.
User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

new eZip motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 06, 2014 5:47 pm

I just burned out my motor and possible controller also. Currie ezip trails stock 24 volt 450 watt motor upgraded to 36 volt was going up hill awhile. motor smells burnt controller also was hot and smelled burnt. I need an upgrade a motor rated for 36 volt and at least 800 watts. If it is a kit with a controller and throttle that would be better. looking to spend around 100 bucks not much more. It must fit without any serious modifications. please help me out here. I am looking also but dont know what would fit.
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 06, 2014 6:27 pm

does this fit

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unite-800W36V-E ... 3295wt_971

cant afford much more
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 06, 2014 6:30 pm

this is the kit. please tell me it will fit

http://www.ebay.com/itm/800-W-36V-DC-10 ... 2121wt_926
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 06, 2014 6:38 pm

I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 06, 2014 6:50 pm

I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
gogo
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2598
Joined: Mar 17, 2008 2:20 pm
Location: Iowa USA

Re: new motor

Post by gogo » Aug 06, 2014 10:12 pm

For a bolt in replacement, this will run 17-18 MPH and won't overheat as easily.
http://tncscooters.com/index.php?route= ... uct_id=334
"A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking." -Steven Wright

User avatar
Dauntless
100 GW
100 GW
Posts: 5929
Joined: May 29, 2010 1:49 am
Location: Coordinates: 33°52′48″N 117°55′43″W

Re: new motor

Post by Dauntless » Aug 07, 2014 12:27 am

I'm not sure I understand. You burned out the stock motor with a 36v controller? Others who understand this better might offer something, but I'm thinking when you overclock the motor and go uphill it starts trying to seriously suck some amps and just can't because the wattage is already used up on the volts. So it sort of overpacks.

If you have a 36v controller already, does it still work? Is it a Currie 1,000w?

Your seller offers the 800w motor for $72 but the 1,000w is $819. Something is wrong, he might have meant $89 and doesn't notice the 1 in the middle. Except with the controller and throttle it's over $1,500. Totally ridiculous.

My advice is if you're doing some serious hills as it sounds, go to 1,000w or better. http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/36-v ... ndard.html It's going to cost you a lot more to keep replacing parts.

http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/36-v ... y1020.html
Any sufficiently advanced technology is INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM MAGIC!
- Arthur C. Clarke

User avatar
docnjoj
100 GW
100 GW
Posts: 5811
Joined: Sep 29, 2007 5:26 pm
Location: Fairhope AL

Re: new motor

Post by docnjoj » Aug 07, 2014 5:40 am

Can you show us a picture of the original motor? There have been suggestions for both a geared motor(MY18Z) and non-geared. Which does your bike have?
otherDoc
E-bike stable at our house

Steintrike Mad Max full suspension trike rear Cute 100H going on: Whoops, Cute wheel broke but I fixed it.
Sun USX delta trike EbikeKit small geared front wheel sort of front suspension for wife

Agniusm/A123 AMP 20 36 volts on the Steini has been taken off.
2x16000 Multisport from HK now gone as they died after 2 years
New Luna 10S bottle battery 13.6AH now on mine
Relatively New 10S4Px2 for wife's bike giving 20ah @ 40 volts home made Panasonic from Tumich. BMS's rule.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 07, 2014 6:11 pm

looks like the controller is not burned out the motor makes a little noise when i put power to it but the motor is shot as it smells burnt and is dead except for a noise when first engaged power to it.

this is a currie upgrade for it . it should fit with no problem what will the performance be compared to the 24 volt 450 watt motor at 36 volts before it burned out. it should be a little faster and bolt in without modifying anything. is this going to work? i will try to call currie technologies tommorow but if you can save me the phone call please let me know.

http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/nsea ... l?query=36 volt motor
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 07, 2014 6:14 pm

I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 07, 2014 6:35 pm

i guess t like the hat motor is discontinued so i am out of luck probley was cheap junk like the one that burned out. where can i get a motor which will simpley bolt in. it has to be at least 36 volts and 1000 watt i want something that will take my fat ass uphill without burning out. total weight is 400 pounds with me on the bike and the back basket full of groceries. i need a beefy motor for a cheap price under 120 with shipping
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
docnjoj
100 GW
100 GW
Posts: 5811
Joined: Sep 29, 2007 5:26 pm
Location: Fairhope AL

Re: new motor

Post by docnjoj » Aug 07, 2014 6:38 pm

latecurtis wrote:i guess t like the hat motor is discontinued so i am out of luck probley was cheap junk like the one that burned out. where can i get a motor which will simpley bolt in. it has to be at least 36 volts and 1000 watt i want something that will take my fat ass uphill without burning out. total weight is 400 pounds with me on the bike and the back basket full of groceries. i need a beefy motor for a cheap price under 120 with shipping
Picture of the one that burned out?
otherDoc
E-bike stable at our house

Steintrike Mad Max full suspension trike rear Cute 100H going on: Whoops, Cute wheel broke but I fixed it.
Sun USX delta trike EbikeKit small geared front wheel sort of front suspension for wife

Agniusm/A123 AMP 20 36 volts on the Steini has been taken off.
2x16000 Multisport from HK now gone as they died after 2 years
New Luna 10S bottle battery 13.6AH now on mine
Relatively New 10S4Px2 for wife's bike giving 20ah @ 40 volts home made Panasonic from Tumich. BMS's rule.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 07, 2014 6:51 pm

ok will this 48 volt motor work with my 36 volt controller. will the motor bolt in. I could upgrade to a 48 volt controller and add 1 more lead ass battery later. please let me know.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/48-Volt-1000-Wa ... 1205wt_971
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 07, 2014 6:56 pm

this is the motor i burned out

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Currie-XYD-16-4 ... 140wt_1120

i need something to bolt up without major modifications
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 07, 2014 7:07 pm

this motor or something like it i need nothing under 800 watts or 36 volt
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 07, 2014 7:12 pm

this if it will fit is the perfect motor at a decent price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/800-W-36V-DC-28 ... 1099wt_733

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DE800W-800watt- ... 33935f9a5f

i need to order something tommorow i need the bike please let me know
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 07, 2014 7:21 pm

this one has free shipping

http://www.ebay.com/itm/48-Volt-1000-Wa ... 1205wt_971

hooked up to 36 volts it should run at 750 watts and might be a little more durable than the 36 volt 800 watt motors. is this true
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
Dauntless
100 GW
100 GW
Posts: 5929
Joined: May 29, 2010 1:49 am
Location: Coordinates: 33°52′48″N 117°55′43″W

Re: new motor

Post by Dauntless » Aug 07, 2014 10:05 pm

I'd say the 48v 1000w motor will work the same as the 36v 800w if you run it with the 36v controller. I'd suggest the 36v 1000w is your better prospect for going uphill. But not that discontinued one you posted.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM MAGIC!
- Arthur C. Clarke

User avatar
docnjoj
100 GW
100 GW
Posts: 5811
Joined: Sep 29, 2007 5:26 pm
Location: Fairhope AL

Re: new motor

Post by docnjoj » Aug 08, 2014 12:55 am

latecurtis wrote:this is the motor i burned out

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Currie-XYD-16-4 ... 140wt_1120

i need something to bolt up without major modifications
That is a geared motor with helical gears. It is very quiet compared to the MY18Z. I would try to find a direct replacement for the XYD-16 since it is good motor. It probably could be run on 36 volts but carefully . A direct drive motor will be much less efficient and not work as well.
otherDoc
http://www.cytron.com.my/viewProduct.ph ... 3Hk223LmI=
E-bike stable at our house

Steintrike Mad Max full suspension trike rear Cute 100H going on: Whoops, Cute wheel broke but I fixed it.
Sun USX delta trike EbikeKit small geared front wheel sort of front suspension for wife

Agniusm/A123 AMP 20 36 volts on the Steini has been taken off.
2x16000 Multisport from HK now gone as they died after 2 years
New Luna 10S bottle battery 13.6AH now on mine
Relatively New 10S4Px2 for wife's bike giving 20ah @ 40 volts home made Panasonic from Tumich. BMS's rule.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 08, 2014 2:45 pm

Thats fine but will the 1000 watt motor bolt on to my bike or am i just throwing money away I am ordering something today what i need to know is what will need to be done to mount it to my bike. this is important as what good is a new motor if I cant use it. I guess i will just have to order something and hopefully someone can tell me how to mount it. no anything less than 800 watts and 32 volts is a waste of money as it will burn out again. I am fat and the bike is heavy with lead ass batteries. I weigh 250 and the bike is over 100 pounds with nothing in the back basket. the 1000 watt 48 volt motor is the logical choice as i can use it with 36 volts until i can afford a forth 22 ah battery and 48 volt controller. I just pray it will bolt up without spending money for custom modifications.
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 08, 2014 3:12 pm

yep e bay has about 10 of them most of them with free shipping all for 94 to 97 dollar range all look the same and are rated at 48 volts and 1000 watts. My three 22 Ah lead ass batteries are mounted in the triangle of the currie. the original battery box on the back are gone when it was upgraded to 36 volts but the frame which held the battery packs remains. It will be simple to mount a forth 13 pound 22 Ah battery on the other side the new motor is on for even weight distribution. The original battery pack was 15 pounds and the bike was 80 pounds. with four 13 pound batteries instead of the stock 15 pound pack the total weight will be around 120 pounds. 80 - 15 = 65 + 52 = 117 pounds at 48 volts and 1000 watts. total bike weight with rider and 30 pounds in back basket = 400 pounds.
thCAQETFRY.jpg
thCAQETFRY.jpg (12.62 KiB) Viewed 15940 times


This is a picture of the bike stock It had the option of adding a second battery pack so there is framework on both sides not just the side the motor is on. I have a web cam in this and will post pictures of the bike the way it is now at 36 volts and when I add the forth battery. note I will be doing the work myself this time as I can not afford paying over 250 dollars for an engineer to upgrade it. May get a little help from friends that will help for a few beers. I will take up close pictures of the motor and mounting plate so someone can tell me what will be needed to install the new motor.
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 08, 2014 7:49 pm

pictures of bike current at 36 volts
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0002.jpg
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0002.jpg (38.56 KiB) Viewed 15912 times
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 08, 2014 7:54 pm

Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0002.jpg
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0002.jpg (38.56 KiB) Viewed 15910 times
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0003.jpg
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0003.jpg (37.57 KiB) Viewed 15910 times
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0004.jpg
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0004.jpg (46.69 KiB) Viewed 15910 times
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0005.jpg
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0005.jpg (42.38 KiB) Viewed 15910 times
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0006.jpg
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0006.jpg (45.87 KiB) Viewed 15910 times
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0007.jpg
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0007.jpg (40.86 KiB) Viewed 15910 times
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0008.jpg
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0008.jpg (36.07 KiB) Viewed 15910 times
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0009.jpg
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0009.jpg (36.07 KiB) Viewed 15910 times
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0010.jpg
Capture_20140808_2_mpeg1video_0010.jpg (32.04 KiB) Viewed 15910 times
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 08, 2014 7:58 pm

new motor
$(KGrHqVHJCkE7zC5V3IUBPEOMU0PWw~~60_57.jpg
$(KGrHqVHJCkE7zC5V3IUBPEOMU0PWw~~60_57.jpg (19.28 KiB) Viewed 15909 times

will send more pictures tommorow when there is more daylight had trouble with web cam and had to install different software and i started running out of daylight.

new motor has to fit or i will have no choice but to scrap the bike and batteries at the scrap yard for money by weight. the motor is ordered and will be here in three days. let me know what i need to hook this up.
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

User avatar
latecurtis
100 MW
100 MW
Posts: 2758
Joined: Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm
Location: upstate NY. Albany area

Re: new motor

Post by latecurtis » Aug 08, 2014 8:17 pm

the pictures show how i mounted the batteries. note I can turn the bike upside down and the batteries wont move. also the guy who charged me 260 bucks for the upgrade removed the stock 24 volt pack as well as the electrodes. the fuse and charger plug are mounted on the side of the controller box as shown in the picture. the 36 volt controller is mounted on the other side of the box with the wires going into the controller box as shown. It went about 18 mph on flat before the stock motor took a shit.
will add one more battery on the frame where the extra pack would go and replace the 36 volt controller later on. should go 27 mph on flat then. I really hope the new motor will fit. I got lots of money in this.

$300 on sale for the bike
$130 for 3 22Ah batteries
$15 - 36 volt controller
$10 - thumb throttle - not installed still using dogmans throttle thanks
$260 - for upgrade labor
$30 - new brake parts

about $750 ----- + forth battery $45 + 48 volt 1000 watt motor - $100 + $20 49 volt controller = $915 + new tires and tubes = $1000

for 48 volt 1000 watt upgraded currie. top speed aprox 25 to 27 mph distance aprox 20 miles at 10 to 15 mph.
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.

Post Reply