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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby HAL9000v2.0 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:13 am

liveforphysics wrote:These motors seem to be large enough to operate as a supercharger drive motor, so the sooner I can get a proto-type, the sooner I can get fabing up some brackets and a drive system to make an E-supercharger kit with this thing. :) If I can make something that can perform well and reliable in the real-world, this may mean triple digit order numbers of the motor from me.


Now I see what it 8 pcs. for :)
Nice idea. Do you plan to go with reduction or better say multiplication gears? I use to try something similar with low pressure turbo but didn't have such machinery back then so it blows itself quite few times...
Can't wait to see results.
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby liveforphysics » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:52 am

I've got a screw-type positive displacement internal compression supercharger laying on the floor of the tinkering room. 1.1L/revolution. RPM limit of 19,000rpm.
I figured I would throw an 11t motorcycle #520 chain sprocket on the supercharger input shaft, and a 25-30T #520 sprocket on the supercharger, make a bolt-together bracket setup. I figure I will need the voltage of 2x the safe no-load speed for the motor to not have the BEMF be decreasing the torque as RPM increases, because I need roughly flat torque, with linear power output increasing directly with RPM, so I kinda got fit motor to be running in just the up-hill starting part of the motors power curve.

It's not an easy burden for a motor, but it only needs to be thermally stable for 10-11seconds at a time, so I think it should be fine. :)
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby liveforphysics » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:53 am

HAL9000v2.0 wrote:Can't wait to see results.


Get a motor in my hands and you won't have to wait as long. :)
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby liveforphysics » Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:38 am

markobetti wrote:something like this : http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/v ... 0%26pstart
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Bad link?
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby markobetti » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:03 am

heheh , not bad link, bad understanding .... sorry .
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby markobetti » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:12 am

oh yea it was bad link : http://www.akamoto.co.uk/electric-supercharger.asp this came to my mind ... but still i know it is
not what you were talking about
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby gogo » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:28 am

liveforphysics wrote:I've got a screw-type positive displacement internal compression supercharger laying on the floor of the tinkering room. 1.1L/revolution. RPM limit of 19,000rpm.
I figured I would throw an 11t motorcycle #520 chain sprocket on the supercharger input shaft, and a 25-30T #520 sprocket on the supercharger, make a bolt-together bracket setup. I figure I will need the voltage of 2x the safe no-load speed for the motor to not have the BEMF be decreasing the torque as RPM increases, because I need roughly flat torque, with linear power output increasing directly with RPM, so I kinda got fit motor to be running in just the up-hill starting part of the motors power curve.

It's not an easy burden for a motor, but it only needs to be thermally stable for 10-11seconds at a time, so I think it should be fine.


Like this but better?
http://www.ecycle.com/supercharger.html
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby liveforphysics » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:34 am

markobetti wrote:oh yea it was bad link : http://www.akamoto.co.uk/electric-supercharger.asp this came to my mind ... but still i know it is
not what you were talking about


Nope, that electric supercharger is nothing but a gimick.
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby liveforphysics » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:38 am

I had never seen that one before, but yes, quite a lot like that. :)

Or like this, except not using 3x crap brushed starter motors. lol
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liveforphysics wrote:I've got a screw-type positive displacement internal compression supercharger laying on the floor of the tinkering room. 1.1L/revolution. RPM limit of 19,000rpm.
I figured I would throw an 11t motorcycle #520 chain sprocket on the supercharger input shaft, and a 25-30T #520 sprocket on the supercharger, make a bolt-together bracket setup. I figure I will need the voltage of 2x the safe no-load speed for the motor to not have the BEMF be decreasing the torque as RPM increases, because I need roughly flat torque, with linear power output increasing directly with RPM, so I kinda got fit motor to be running in just the up-hill starting part of the motors power curve.

It's not an easy burden for a motor, but it only needs to be thermally stable for 10-11seconds at a time, so I think it should be fine.


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http://www.ecycle.com/supercharger.html
super.jpg
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby markobetti » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:53 am

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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby liveforphysics » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:11 am

markobetti wrote:THIS IS THE OFFICIAL LOGO , HOPE YOU LIKE IT GUYS
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ANYWAY , WE RE MAKING WEB SITE WHERE WE WILL UPLOAD ALL USER VIDEOS AND PICTURES



I love it!!!
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby markobetti » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:38 am

thanks man :) i appreciate it
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby gip_mad » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:40 am

The shaded background face is a bit creepy once you notice it... Well, I'm really curious about this motor and I think I'll order one when it will be available. Don't make us wait too long!! :D

As a side note, what controller are you guys going to use?
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby markobetti » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:45 am

well , i am going to use Kelly controllers , really : u can use almost anything with this motor ..so i guess it depends on your needs....or whatever you have in your backyard :) ...
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby markobetti » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:52 am

but....i only have 7 - 10 kw controller.....hm .... Others : what will u use ?
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby markobetti » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:11 am

gip_mad wrote:The shaded background face is a bit creepy once you notice it... Well, I'm really curious about this motor and I think I'll order one when it will be available. Don't make us wait too long!! :D

As a side note, what controller are you guys going to use?


the face in the background will be changed with other face ......i want to make a more power full expression, like when Goku is going crazy :) Just kidding
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby etard » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:05 pm

This is awesome!! I completely missed this thread, but put me down for one when the arrive. Also, I have only seen that one pic, does Hal or Mark have one of these in thier hands? I would like to see a pic if possible with something to scale it by. Carry on men!! EV nirvana awaits!!
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby AussieJester » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:32 pm

markobetti wrote:
the face in the background will be changed with other face ......i want to make a more power full expression, like when Goku is going crazy :) Just kidding


Have the camera ready, then tell Hal someone has stolen his e-bike, start snapping pictures :mrgreen:

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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby liveforphysics » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:35 pm

You could use the worlds most feared face in unarmed combat.
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He takes a normal face, and turns it into goo.

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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby markobetti » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:26 am

liveforphysics wrote:You could use the worlds most feared face in unarmed combat.
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He takes a normal face, and turns it into goo.

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heheh, man ,thats a little bit sick :)
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby markobetti » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:27 am

AussieJester wrote:
markobetti wrote:
the face in the background will be changed with other face ......i want to make a more power full expression, like when Goku is going crazy :) Just kidding


Have the camera ready, then tell Hal someone has stolen his e-bike, start snapping pictures :mrgreen:

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Nice idea, i we got to try that one :twisted:
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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby liveforphysics » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:12 am

Fedor. Destroyer of all challengers. IMHO, definately the face to use for something you want to bring world-wide respect/fear.



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Re: 12 kw rc motor

Postby j3tch1u » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:27 pm

markobetti wrote:THIS IS THE OFFICIAL LOGO , HOPE YOU LIKE IT GUYS
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ANYWAY , WE RE MAKING WEB SITE WHERE WE WILL UPLOAD ALL USER VIDEOS AND PICTURES


love the logo, love the name. looks a little like a rave-flyer-on-the-windshield circa 2000 :D
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