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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! Latest UPDATE

Postby o00scorpion00o » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:06 am

Max, the roads are obviously much better there than here, Suspension is a must!

But I do like the design, but I really think the suspension would make this bike!


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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! Latest UPDATE

Postby maxwell65 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:42 am

Green Machine wrote:Hi Max,

Really liking the changes your making.

Love the snazzy battery cover...what will the cover be made of?

Is cover included in frame pricing?


i do not have the costs on this new frame yet but i expect that it should remain in the same cost range with the covers,,,TBA within 10 days.
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! Latest UPDATE

Postby maxwell65 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:46 am

Green Machine wrote:Hi Max,

Really liking the changes your making.

Love the snazzy battery cover...what will the cover be made of?

Is cover included in frame pricing?


i do not have the costs on this new frame yet but i expect that it should remain in the same cost range with the covers,,,TBA within 10 days.the cover will be i think ABS,,,,or for the billionaires out there carbon fibre if they like :mrgreen:
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! Latest UPDATE

Postby ptd » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:17 am

got a side view with full front compression ?

how about a new head angle, wheelbase ?

starting to look like a yuba mundo
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! Latest UPDATE

Postby chroot » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:57 pm

I would freaking love send you $600 for full suspension frame. However I wanted let you know that Hal9000 is in progress building the full suspension with a modular gear reduction and RC motor set-up. I mean you might want save your time.


carv'n marv'n wrote:ok then...

...I'm designing a full suspension cromolly E-bike frame, with modular units for battery housing and driveline. Two swingarm options - one for Hub drive, and one for chain drive. The chain drive has a modular gear reduction and RC motor set-up. The frame is simple, and highly configerable for various types of set-ups, be that a hill bombing stunt jumping powerhouse, or grand street cruiser.

...Just send me $600.... and I'll get started. :D

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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! Latest UPDATE

Postby jimw1960 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:40 pm

chroot wrote:I would freaking love send you $600 for full suspension frame. However I wanted let you know that Hal9000 is in progress building the full suspension with a modular gear reduction and RC motor set-up. I mean you might want save your time.


I was going to make a similar comment. The Greyborg full suspension frame by Hal9000 and Accountant is already available for $600 plus shipping.
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! Latest UPDATE

Postby o00scorpion00o » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:04 am

Hi Max,

If I could make a suggestion,

How about making a space on the frame for the cycle analyst, rather than having it on the handlebars, and maybe for a few other accessories ? maybe a few slots that you can punch out yourself if you need to fit things like switches etc?

Perhaps the option of some kind of wind shield ?

Mudguards, rather than fitting ordinary bicycle mudguards on the front forks which would really take from the look of the bike, it's no ordinary bike after all! :D

Full suspension would be really nice!
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! Latest UPDATE

Postby oatnet » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:10 am

Hey Max, I need a place on the bike to put a keg, and while the flat screen TV is optional, the sound system is essential. Maybe a wet-bar upgrade for the premium model? :lol:

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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! Latest UPDATE

Postby John in CR » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:45 pm

CarvnMarvn,
Maxwell's is $350. Match that and I'll bite. For $600 I'll take one of your leaning delta frames, and the only mod I want is a lower seat. :mrgreen:

Maxwell,
I'll send you $350 to NOT make this thing out of aluminum. It is not a bicycle. Listen to Luke, 4130 steel is what you want.
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! NEW PICS UPDATE 7

Postby gensem » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:03 pm

+1 for steel... the design is much better now.. but im a little out of money.
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! NEW PICS UPDATE 7

Postby bongoboy » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:24 pm

Hi Max,

Sorry to ask again but can you confirm you can fit a 26" rim on the rear and have clearance for a 2.5" tyre?

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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! NEW PICS UPDATE 7

Postby maxwell65 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:03 pm

bongoboy wrote:Hi Max,

Sorry to ask again but can you confirm you can fit a 26" rim on the rear and have clearance for a 2.5" tyre?

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WHOOPS sorry bout that,,,see specs just posted on page 1.

Front tire size maximum 24” x3”
Rear tire size maximum 24” x3”
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! NEW PICS UPDATE 7

Postby deVries » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:24 pm

maxwell65 wrote:WHOOPS sorry bout that,,,see specs just posted on page 1.

Front tire size maximum 24” x3”
Rear tire size maximum 24” x3”

Will you be providing these specs anytime soon? ...

1) Wheelbase w/Standard Design Fork Choice(s) Noted & any rake.

2) Chainstay length :arrow: Distance between Bottom Bracket & Rear Dropout (center to center).

3) Standover Height with typical wheels/tires choice(s).

Thanks :!: 8)
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! Latest UPDATE

Postby Willow » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:46 pm

maxwell65 wrote:
I want this frame to go into production so i need to see weather or not there is a true need or interest in this,,,so this is what im prepared to do, i will manufacture this frame in 2 weeks even if i have no takers that are willing to take the chance at prepaying the 350.00$,,,,so that means i will make the complete investment,,but before i do this i need to see if there is a market for this frame so here is the chicken clause,,,



...where is it??
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! Latest UPDATE

Postby AussieJester » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:17 pm

carv'n marv'n wrote:
maxwell65 wrote:
I want this frame to go into production so i need to see weather or not there is a true need or interest in this,,,so this is what im prepared to do, i will manufacture this frame in 2 weeks even if i have no takers that are willing to take the chance at prepaying the 350.00$,,,,so that means i will make the complete investment,,but before i do this i need to see if there is a market for this frame so here is the chicken clause,,,



...where is it??



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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! FULL FRAME UPDATE 8

Postby Willow » Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:02 am

thanx dude.
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! Latest UPDATE

Postby maxwell65 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:41 pm

carv'n marv'n wrote:
maxwell65 wrote:
I want this frame to go into production so i need to see weather or not there is a true need or interest in this,,,so this is what im prepared to do, i will manufacture this frame in 2 weeks even if i have no takers that are willing to take the chance at prepaying the 350.00$,,,,so that means i will make the complete investment,,but before i do this i need to see if there is a market for this frame so here is the chicken clause,,,



...where is it??


fair question,considering the time that has passed,,as the other guy mentioned look to page one,,,but to answer more or less directly...we have gone through major design changes and it looks like we have a winner now,,,so as things stand i am waiting to receive the final drawings to submit for a quote,,,so this will take another 15days or so,,,,then i will post all new info and place finalized dates for payments as all other dates have gone out the window because of all the changes,,,but rest assured this frame will come to life sooner than later.

of course there are a few people who have left full payments and their patience has been great,to them i thank you! :mrgreen: of course if for any reason anyone has to drop out u will be refunded in full promptly,and u will be informed as to the final specs of the bike and at that time should something not be to your liking u will be refunded as well.
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! FULL FRAME UPDATE 8

Postby darkshirikens » Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:03 pm

i Thought i would bump this thread up since i'm interested to see how it was developing . SO whats going on Max ?
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! FULL FRAME UPDATE 8

Postby gensem » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:13 pm

Max, would you mind to upload pictures again? they are all gone.
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! FULL FRAME UPDATE 8

Postby maxwell65 » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:50 pm

gensem wrote:Max, would you mind to upload pictures again? they are all gone.


pics uploaded,and new details posted on first page,,,this frame will go to production 100%,,,so be prepared to have a great bike for beginning of 2012!

NO MORE HAVING TO HAVE BATTERIES HANGING FROM THE SIDE OFF A CHEAP BIKE RACK!

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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! FULL FRAME UPDATE 8

Postby o00scorpion00o » Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:38 am

Hi Max,

Have you reconsiderd the suspension? I would really need suspension, however I would imagine it would have to be tough for this bike, and have a lot of travel similar to a downhill suspension. The cheap springs on cheaper bikes are useless, they only cause you to bounce up and down with no control.

I would also like to suggest making a frame that takes 20" wheels, making it lower would really help with aerodynamics and stability at higher speeds.

Norml mountain bikes are just too high for electric above 20 mph! well that's my views anyway. :D

Looking forward to seeing the frame in the flesh though!


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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! FULL FRAME UPDATE 8

Postby TylerDurden » Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:50 am

Gonna be classed as a moped in most areas. "Looks like a duck... etc."

You might as well put dual shocks on the rear, it's never gonna look like a bicycle with those sidecovers.
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! FULL FRAME UPDATE 8

Postby Ypedal » Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:00 am

imo ditch the rear shocks !!.. keep it as it looks now ! :o
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! FULL FRAME UPDATE 8

Postby grindz145 » Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:35 am

I dig the side-covers. If I were concerned with legality, I would not be riding an ebike:)

Proof is in the pudding though man, I still want to see one.
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Re: E-bike frame! MUST BE SEEN! FULL FRAME UPDATE 8

Postby o00scorpion00o » Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:51 am

Ypedal wrote:imo ditch the rear shocks !!.. keep it as it looks now ! :o


Seriously the roads here are so bad suspension is a must!

They must be good where you are Ypedal ? :(


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