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Crystalyte 5404 / 5403 UPGRADED! LAST CALL

Postby wojtek » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:32 am

5403 and 5404 available

150mm dropouts / 135mm optional subject to MOQ

Upgrades available - to be confirmed.

For details and prices:
1. USA and Canada - please contact Maxwell
2. Austraila - please check with Hyena
3. Europe - please contact me.
4. Rest of the world - please check with Max or myself.
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby Doctorbass » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:00 am

wojtek wrote:290USD/ea
+ shipping costs
Min order quantity: 20

Please put your name and country and amount if interested.



I'm in for one ( SENSORED PLEASE).

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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby wojtek » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:10 am

Doctorbass wrote:
wojtek wrote:290USD/ea
+ shipping costs
Min order quantity: 20

Please put your name and country and amount if interested.



I'm in for one ( SENSORED PLEASE).

DOc


lol

i think they only have sensored 5404. I am asking if other options possible... like 5403 which i take could also be of interest?
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby chroot » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:34 am

Hi- What's difference between 5404 and 5304? I don't find anything information on xlyte website relate 540x motors except 530x, HT and HS. Is it comes with laced rim or just hub motor?
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby BlackArrow » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:55 pm

Hi,

Wow, i'm in for one also (sensored) if the shipping cost is not too high (like the price of the motor) let me know please :wink:, I send you a PM for the rest of the details

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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby BlackArrow » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:29 pm

chroot wrote:Hi- What's difference between 5404 and 5304? I don't find anything information on xlyte website relate 540x motors except 530x, HT and HS. Is it comes with laced rim or just hub motor?


The magnets on an X5404 are 10 mm larger than X5304 therefore this motor as more torque and can take more power abuse (heat disspating) than X5304, I think that Stealth are using them on their stealth bomber since a while now.

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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby nicobie » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:50 pm

Can they fit in a 135mm dropout? What kind of gear cluster can you use? Disc brakes?
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby wojtek » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:07 pm

nicobie wrote:Can they fit in a 135mm dropout? What kind of gear cluster can you use? Disc brakes?


150mm dropouts
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby ambroseliao » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:12 pm

How is shipping handled? Does the order ship to you first and then you ship to the final destination or is it drop shipped, directly from the manufacturer to the final destination?

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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby oatnet » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:21 pm

I'd be down for a 5403 at $290, but concerned that shipping to North America might kill the deal. How much to ship to USA?

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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby Gordo » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:23 pm

wojtek wrote:290USD/ea
+ shipping costs
Min order quantity: 20

Please put your name and country and amount if interested.


Is this the bare hubmotor or in a wheel?
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby NeilP » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:47 pm

BlackArrow wrote:
chroot wrote:Hi- What's difference between 5404 and 5304? I don't find anything information on xlyte website relate 540x motors except 530x, HT and HS. Is it comes with laced rim or just hub motor?


The magnets on an X5404 are 1mm larger than X5304 therefore this motor as more torque and can take more power abuse (heat disspating) than X5304, I think that Stealth are using them on their stealth bomber since a while now.

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Wrong

1cm (10mm) wider magnets...not 1mm
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby BlackArrow » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:05 pm

NeilP wrote:
BlackArrow wrote:
chroot wrote:Hi- What's difference between 5404 and 5304? I don't find anything information on xlyte website relate 540x motors except 530x, HT and HS. Is it comes with laced rim or just hub motor?


The magnets on an X5404 are 1mm larger than X5304 therefore this motor as more torque and can take more power abuse (heat disspating) than X5304, I think that Stealth are using them on their stealth bomber since a while now.

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Wrong

1cm (10mm) wider magnets...not 1mm


Cool much better (previous post edited) :wink:
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby Andje » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:08 pm

I'm in for one if this buy happens before mid September, two if it happens more towards October.
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby wojtek » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:43 pm

at the moment it is like 130usd shipping cost per each motor if 10 of them will be shipped to one place in USA / 10 to Europe ..

for sea shipping , min is 30 motors but considering all costs involved in sea shipping, it wont be cheaper.

as usual, the more the cheaper...
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby ambroseliao » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:51 pm

So we need a USA receiver for a shipment of 10 motors and then have them ship it out from there. So shipping charges will be from this central location to your destination.

$130 and ???

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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby wojtek » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:54 pm

I will be clarifying with Kenny this matter and let you know asap.

ambroseliao wrote:So we need a USA receiver for a shipment of 10 motors and then have them ship it out from there. So shipping charges will be from this central location to your destination.

$130 and ???

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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby wojtek » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:57 pm

only hub motor + 7 speed freewheel

Gordo wrote:
wojtek wrote:290USD/ea
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Min order quantity: 20

Please put your name and country and amount if interested.


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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh » Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:02 pm

which one has the max copper fill?
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby nicobie » Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:29 pm

* sorry I have too many motors now *
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby chroot » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:58 pm

Oh sweet, I might want this one too! thanks explain the difference.

BlackArrow wrote:The magnets on an X5404 are 10 mm larger than X5304 therefore this motor as more torque and can take more power abuse (heat disspating) than X5304, I think that Stealth are using them on their stealth bomber since a while now.

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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby fractal » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:51 pm

definitely IN!!! (from Gatineau, Canada -beside Ottawa)
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby oatnet » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:20 pm

Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh wrote:which one has the max copper fill?
oatnet, is that why you prefer the 5403?


Thicker gauge windings = less resistance, harder on controllers but easier to keep cool. I also thought it might be fun in a moped rim at 132v :twisted: , maybe I should ship mine straight to JRH (JohnRobHolmes) for his DOT treatment. He has laced a bunch of ebike wheels for me, fine work, decent cost. Local bike stores just look at
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby Doctorbass » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:28 pm

Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh wrote:which one has the max copper fill?
oatnet, is that why you prefer the 5403?



On the 5300 serie.. it's the 5302 that had the highest copper fill.. same for the 5304..

So i would take a 5404 ( same copper fill as 5402(if they exist)

Guys.. about the price.. just remember that few years ago we was willing to pay 500$ for an X5 to ebikes.ca....

so if it end out to 450 otr 500$ shipped to our home.. it would be really interesting for a madmax motor like this!!!

no one realy pushed his limit from now..

on my 5303.. today i pushed 232A at 112V wich is 25kW for a new top speed to 113kmh GPS measured... the cotroller is still at 75% current :twisted:

Now i imagine a motor with 33% more copper and magnet volume... OMG!!! :shock: :mrgreen:

These 5404 WILL be the next coolest motor for abuse!!!.. no gear breaking... no belt breaking... no high pitch noise... just pure , simple and power and fun!!!!

I bet that i less than one week the 30 motor will be reserved!

No worrie Wojtek :wink:




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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:02 pm

Doctorbass wrote:On the 5300 serie.. it's the 5302 that had the highest copper fill.. same for the 5304..

So i would take a 5404 ( same copper fill as 5402(if they exist)


i thought the optimum cross-product was 24 (3X8, 4X6, etc.)
saw no reason for the 5400 to be any different but thought i'd best check.
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