Greyborg Cromotor Hubzilla motors, Sold Out

Place for dealers to post items for sale.

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby zombiess » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:45 am

hillzofvalp wrote::(


Trust me I know, we all feel the same way. This is why I've been so adamant about not holding onto much of peoples money until I knew I would be able to deliver in a reasonable amount of time.

My goal is to make sure I can keep my customers informed and happy, but in business it doesn't always work out as smooth as you plan. That is why I have my own very strict money handling policy. I've seen too many internet deals/dealers/group buys go wrong and I don't want to be one of the guys that people hate because he ran off with everyone's money and didn't deliver any products.

The motors are still going to be available in the very near future, but this time there will not be any deposits. It will be a complete sale after the motor is in my hands ready to ship.

Jeremy Wolf
Dodecahedron Solutions Inc
Greyborg USA Distributor
Greyborg Hub Motor, Lyen 18FET, Customized full suspension kids MTB. Top Speed 61 MPH
9C 8x8, 24S2P LiPo, Lyen 12 FET, Diamondback Recoil Comp. Top Speed 42 MPH
GreyborgUSA Dealer
zombiess
1 MW
1 MW
 
Posts: 1505
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:16 am
Location: Ventura

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby chroot » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:15 am

Received the fund from you that I sent you for the deposit.

Bummer! Hope everything is going work it out and I still looking forward to get a hand of the cromotors coming.

Thanks

Sent from my Tbolt smartphone using Endless Sphere app
chroot
100 kW
100 kW
 
Posts: 1480
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:03 pm

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby zombiess » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:23 pm

chroot, I have a large order of the motors coming to me, just later than expected so you won't miss out if you want them after I have them in stock.
Greyborg Hub Motor, Lyen 18FET, Customized full suspension kids MTB. Top Speed 61 MPH
9C 8x8, 24S2P LiPo, Lyen 12 FET, Diamondback Recoil Comp. Top Speed 42 MPH
GreyborgUSA Dealer
zombiess
1 MW
1 MW
 
Posts: 1505
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:16 am
Location: Ventura

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby chroot » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:39 pm

... what's the status on hubzilla motor and Are you still going get these motors coming?
Thank you Justin Lemire-Elmore - You are a HERO!

Tidalforce, Yuba Mundo V4 Cargo bike, Juiced Riders ODK V1 Cargo bike
English is my secondary language - ASL (American Sign Language) is my primary.
chroot
100 kW
100 kW
 
Posts: 1480
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:03 pm

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby zombiess » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:50 pm

chroot wrote:... what's the status on hubzilla motor and Are you still going get these motors coming?


They will eventually be here, I'll see if I can get an update to post.
Greyborg Hub Motor, Lyen 18FET, Customized full suspension kids MTB. Top Speed 61 MPH
9C 8x8, 24S2P LiPo, Lyen 12 FET, Diamondback Recoil Comp. Top Speed 42 MPH
GreyborgUSA Dealer
zombiess
1 MW
1 MW
 
Posts: 1505
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:16 am
Location: Ventura

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby chroot » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:09 pm

:lol: You better be! My race bikes (2) waiting for the hubzilla cromotor. 8)
Thank you Justin Lemire-Elmore - You are a HERO!

Tidalforce, Yuba Mundo V4 Cargo bike, Juiced Riders ODK V1 Cargo bike
English is my secondary language - ASL (American Sign Language) is my primary.
chroot
100 kW
100 kW
 
Posts: 1480
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:03 pm

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby Microbatman » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:13 pm

Refund was recieved as stated.
Got it. Thanks for 1st class service and ethical handling of money.

Courious as to what the technical issue is that caused the delay?
Was it customs? Was there a problem that was found in quality control check?
Will I still keep my place in line when first shipment arrives?
MotorCrystalyte X5304 20 Inch Rear Wheel DISC Brake Controller Crystalyte 48A72V4110MOSFETS
Batteries A123 24s2p
Charger Mastech 5020
Frame Azonic Steelhead
Grateful/fortunate/blessed to have the resources and family support to enjoy my ebike hobby
User avatar
Microbatman
1 kW
1 kW
 
Posts: 320
Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:13 pm
Location: Lantana Texas

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby hillzofvalp » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:04 pm

I wonder such things, too.
User avatar
hillzofvalp
1 MW
1 MW
 
Posts: 1819
Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:09 am
Location: Lafayette, Indiana

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby zombiess » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:53 am

Microbatman wrote:Courious as to what the technical issue is that caused the delay?
Was it customs? Was there a problem that was found in quality control check?
Will I still keep my place in line when first shipment arrives?


So here are the details for the delay. The motor axles did not pass a final QC check which was done right before they were ready to be shipped to me. While they were plenty strong the manufacturer did not follow the diagrams on how to make them and just did what ever they wanted. In a certain type of dropout it could cause a possible issue with pinching the wires so Greyborg decided to hold off shipping them and get all new axles made to the spec they intended and change them all out. They do not want to release a product that does not meet their standards.

New axles are now 16mm with standard 10mm flats as the originals were. I'm awaiting final length measurement, but they were ordered to be longer than the original axles. Greyborg is now in the process of changing out the old axles for the new ones.

That's the reason for the delay. Typical Chinese manufacturing. They can produce good products, but if you can't afford to have someone babysit the company making your product they will do what ever they want and there is very little you can do about it.

I'll update everyone when the motors are ready to be shipped to me.

Jeremy
Greyborg Hub Motor, Lyen 18FET, Customized full suspension kids MTB. Top Speed 61 MPH
9C 8x8, 24S2P LiPo, Lyen 12 FET, Diamondback Recoil Comp. Top Speed 42 MPH
GreyborgUSA Dealer
zombiess
1 MW
1 MW
 
Posts: 1505
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:16 am
Location: Ventura

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby chroot » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:32 pm

Frickin awesome, I cant wait get hand of hubzilla once they sort it out with the axle quality control. I am gonna love Greyborg forever for superior QCs. Thanks for the updates.
Thank you Justin Lemire-Elmore - You are a HERO!

Tidalforce, Yuba Mundo V4 Cargo bike, Juiced Riders ODK V1 Cargo bike
English is my secondary language - ASL (American Sign Language) is my primary.
chroot
100 kW
100 kW
 
Posts: 1480
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:03 pm

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby neptronix » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:34 pm

zombiess wrote:New axles are now 16mm with standard 10mm flats as the originals were. I'm awaiting final length measurement, but they were ordered to be longer than the original axles. Greyborg is now in the process of changing out the old axles for the new ones.


Good! no - great! the wider the axle, the better. This will be just a bit easier on the torque plates/arms. This is good news.
ES facebook group: http://facebook.com/#!/home.php?sk=group_125035107565566&ap=1

The all-arounder: 8T MAC motor on a Trek 4500.
The girlfriend bike: 350W front MAC on a 700c Trek.
The wheelie machine: 20" Rear Magic Pie II on a Trek 4300 MTB
The Bus: ??? on a 'da bomb' cargo bike frame

Pro-tips for noobs: Avoid BMS Battery like the plague | Charge RC Lipos to 4.15v, stop discharging at 3.5-3.6v | Use torque plates/arms! | Rear mounted hubs are always best
User avatar
neptronix
100 GW
100 GW
 
Posts: 10292
Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:56 pm
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby Alan B » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:19 pm

Glad to hear about the QC and the 16mm axle. With all this torque having the larger diameter axle is very helpful.
-- Alan W6AKB Cromotored FS GreyBorg, Novara MTB 9C, eBikeE Bent BMC, myEbikeWeb and Thanks to Justin at ebikes.ca for rescuing this forum!
User avatar
Alan B
1.21 GW
1.21 GW
 
Posts: 3877
Joined: Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:43 am
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, USA

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby zombiess » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:15 pm

I updated the first post with the axle size specs for those wondering how long the axle will be and how long the threaded length will be.
Greyborg Hub Motor, Lyen 18FET, Customized full suspension kids MTB. Top Speed 61 MPH
9C 8x8, 24S2P LiPo, Lyen 12 FET, Diamondback Recoil Comp. Top Speed 42 MPH
GreyborgUSA Dealer
zombiess
1 MW
1 MW
 
Posts: 1505
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:16 am
Location: Ventura

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby hillzofvalp » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:14 pm

Score! Epoxying my dropout torque plates was pretty sketchy... A bigger axle will make me feel better
User avatar
hillzofvalp
1 MW
1 MW
 
Posts: 1819
Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:09 am
Location: Lafayette, Indiana

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby liveforphysics » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:34 pm

A 16mm axle will be a blessing that is worth the wait IMHO.
For ebike parts, don't be a douche, buy from http://www.ebikes.ca or http://www.MethTek.com

Justin saved the forum at great personal expense! The man is a legend and a hero!
User avatar
liveforphysics
100 GW
100 GW
 
Posts: 10971
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:48 am
Location: Santa Cruz, CA, USA

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby hillzofvalp » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:24 am

zombie, you ought to ask them to not scrap the old axles for ES spares ;)
User avatar
hillzofvalp
1 MW
1 MW
 
Posts: 1819
Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:09 am
Location: Lafayette, Indiana

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby oatnet » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:57 pm

zombiess wrote:I updated the first post with the axle size specs for those wondering how long the axle will be and how long the threaded length will be.


You posted on the first page that the axle will be 8.8" long. Subtract 5.31" for a 135mm frame from that, and you have about 3.5" exposed, or 1.75" per side. I think the nuts were 5/8"', 3/16" for washer/lock washer, 5/16" for dropouts. Thats a total of 1 1/8" of axle stub accounted for, leaving 5/8" for a torque arm, and spacers if you need to stretch your 135mm frame to fit a disk caliper.

If you don't like to leave the nut on the very last thread, call it 1/2" for torque arm and spacers.

And on 150mm frame, .29" for torque arm and spacers.

You also posted on the first page that the threaded area was 1.57" on each side - if that is the length of the flats, then that leaves 0.45" for torque arms on a 135mm frame, and 0.11" on a 150mm frame.

-JD
Member 117 of 16,xxx

179v VW Camper © 164v Vectrix E-Moto © 72v Norco A-line/x5403 © 60v Specialized Enduro Comp/BMC © 72v x5tracycle © 48v TF IO/BMC © 36v Kepler Friction Drive © Spot-Welding a123 © Pelican Front Packs © Vectrix Battery Replacement © MORE !!


Image大鸡巴 Motors
Knowledge is acquired through experience, everything else is just information - Albert Einstein
"Cheater?" I'm not competing, I'm Commuting!
User avatar
oatnet
100 MW
100 MW
 
Posts: 2507
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:03 pm
Location: SoCal, USA

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby hillzofvalp » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:39 am

What is the etA on these guys? I believe my 9C just bit the dust.
User avatar
hillzofvalp
1 MW
1 MW
 
Posts: 1819
Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:09 am
Location: Lafayette, Indiana

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby zombiess » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:23 pm

They are being re assembled now. I think they will ship out to some time me next week so I'm guessing 3 weeks until I have them. I'll confirm when I have solid info such as when the motors actually start their journey to me.
Greyborg Hub Motor, Lyen 18FET, Customized full suspension kids MTB. Top Speed 61 MPH
9C 8x8, 24S2P LiPo, Lyen 12 FET, Diamondback Recoil Comp. Top Speed 42 MPH
GreyborgUSA Dealer
zombiess
1 MW
1 MW
 
Posts: 1505
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:16 am
Location: Ventura

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby chroot » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:45 pm

whoo awesome! Thanks for the update.
Thank you Justin Lemire-Elmore - You are a HERO!

Tidalforce, Yuba Mundo V4 Cargo bike, Juiced Riders ODK V1 Cargo bike
English is my secondary language - ASL (American Sign Language) is my primary.
chroot
100 kW
100 kW
 
Posts: 1480
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:03 pm

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby RAPHZ400 » Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:11 am

I'm happy with the new
Norco dual suspension
Crystalyte 5403
Kelly khb 250 amp
30s2p Nano-tech 8000mha
Rocky mountain RMX
Crystalyte 5403
In progress
RAPHZ400
100 µW
100 µW
 
Posts: 9
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:53 pm

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby Indubitably » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:04 am

I'm down for one if there are any left after tending to early preorders and whatnot. In a 14 inch dirtbike rim with a nice fat tire this motor would look right purdy on my rediculously over built 70lb full suspension recumbent. Not to mention that I have an 18 fet lyen controller that has been itching for a good modding for some time now, and this looks like just the excuse to finally go through with it.
Indubitably
100 W
100 W
 
Posts: 144
Joined: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:26 pm

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby zombiess » Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:09 pm

Indubitably wrote:I'm down for one if there are any left after tending to early preorders and whatnot. In a 14 inch dirtbike rim with a nice fat tire this motor would look right purdy on my rediculously over built 70lb full suspension recumbent. Not to mention that I have an 18 fet lyen controller that has been itching for a good modding for some time now, and this looks like just the excuse to finally go through with it.


What is your source for the 14" rim and is it 36 hole? Im looking for one myself for a fast wind motor particularly if it will take a 14" road tire. What will the overall height of the wheel and tire be?
Greyborg Hub Motor, Lyen 18FET, Customized full suspension kids MTB. Top Speed 61 MPH
9C 8x8, 24S2P LiPo, Lyen 12 FET, Diamondback Recoil Comp. Top Speed 42 MPH
GreyborgUSA Dealer
zombiess
1 MW
1 MW
 
Posts: 1505
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:16 am
Location: Ventura

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby zappy » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:54 pm

Hi, yamaha yz 80 motorcross bike. They are 7mm thick and cheap secondhand from wreckers. 36 spoke.

Zappy
zappy
100 W
100 W
 
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 8:34 am

Re: Greyborg Hubzilla motors in by end of April, we hit a de

Postby Indubitably » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:11 am

zombiess wrote:
Indubitably wrote:I'm down for one if there are any left after tending to early preorders and whatnot. In a 14 inch dirtbike rim with a nice fat tire this motor would look right purdy on my rediculously over built 70lb full suspension recumbent. Not to mention that I have an 18 fet lyen controller that has been itching for a good modding for some time now, and this looks like just the excuse to finally go through with it.


What is your source for the 14" rim and is it 36 hole? Im looking for one myself for a fast wind motor particularly if it will take a 14" road tire. What will the overall height of the wheel and tire be?


Well, the rim is easy enough, that you can grab off of eBay from any dealer of chinese dirtbike parts ( I tend to favor the "chinese motor parts" eBay store but I think they may only sell built wheels). There is actually a whole wealth of cheap super light generic chinese dirtbike parts that are a little too flimsy to be taken serious by any hardcore motocross buff, and way too over built for any serious bicyclist to consider weighing down their 17lb $3000 carbon fiber tour bike with, but perfect for people like us who are building rediculously over powered ebikes. I just put a pair of dirtbike forks on my semi-recumbent cruiser build, and although the extra 12lbs stings a little on the hills, there is nothing quite like 5+ inches of travel to put the fun factor back in your daily commute (curbs have effectively lost all meaning to me at this point, and thats running a 5302, who knows what shenanigans will ensue once I get my hands on something with even a modicum of low speed torque). I figured, hell, at $60 for the pair, I can always put them on a different bike if I don't like them on this rig.

At any rate, my plan was to rig something custom out of aluminum plate since your spokes would be probitively small in a 14 inch (read 16" in bicycle terms, with a tyre my total wheel diameter should be about 18") dirtbike rim. If it weren't for the motors coming out cockeyed this run I probably would have experimented with attaching the tyre directly to the hub itself, but that will likely be a bit difficult at this point unless I want to upgrade to a motorcycle swing arm to give myself some play in the wheel position. As it stands, I'm still looking at some sort of custom hack to almost directly interface the rim with the hubany way I slice it, and the cromotor will probably obliterate the first few attempts, but this kind of thing is not that uncommon with scooter hubs so it should be doable all the same.
Indubitably
100 W
100 W
 
Posts: 144
Joined: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:26 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Items for Sale - New

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: slacker and 8 guests