Golden Motor Electric Scooter Hub Motors (Super Integrated)

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Golden Motor Electric Scooter Hub Motors (Super Integrated)

Postby NeilP » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:22 am

Any one used or had experience with any of these motors from Golden Motor?

http://www.goldenmotor.com/

Sorry the site wont seem to let me get links to the direct page.

But I am referring to the various 8 12 or 16 inch wheels with built in motors and or controllers

OK, some are rated at 250W.the 8 inch ones, just wondering what they can be pushed to...500? 750/ 1000?
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Re: Golden Motor Electric Scooter Hub Motors (Super Integra

Postby hjns » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:43 am

sorry, no, I don't have experience with Scooter motors.

(another unanswered post gone.... :wink: )
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Re: Golden Motor Electric Scooter Hub Motors (Super Integra

Postby NeilP » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:21 am

Think you need to start at the other end of the unanswered posts list :wink: only posted that one minutes ago :lol:
Mongoose frame, Fox F100 forks,26x2.3 tyres
180mm disks
100V 20Ah LiPo
Lyen 18 FET 65 Amp,5304 in 26 inch Mavic rim

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Re: Golden Motor Electric Scooter Hub Motors (Super Integra

Postby hjns » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:29 am

I know...

I looked at the "other end of the thread". The oldest posts are from more than 1 year ago.... I don't think it makes sense to start answering these very old questions, even if I had the time (or the answers). We probably need to rely on the OP's themselves as well, to repost their question in another thread in case they don't get a response within the first XX minutes/days/weeks.
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Re: Golden Motor Electric Scooter Hub Motors (Super Integra

Postby Astropower » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:23 am

Hello,

In Israel sells scooter with Hub motor,

Single motor or dual motor,

Look:
http://www.kooperscooter.com/Upload/Doc ... ations.pdf
http://www.kooperscooter.com/

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Re: Golden Motor Electric Scooter Hub Motors (Super Integra

Postby NeilP » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:00 am

Have you ridden one? What is the single motor top speed like?
Mongoose frame, Fox F100 forks,26x2.3 tyres
180mm disks
100V 20Ah LiPo
Lyen 18 FET 65 Amp,5304 in 26 inch Mavic rim

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Re: Golden Motor Electric Scooter Hub Motors (Super Integra

Postby Astropower » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:43 am

Hello,

They us in Golden Motor model: MW12B

But they get 48V instead of 36V, you can see the curve : http://www.goldenmotor.com/hubmotors/hu ... 12cure.pdf

top speed about 21MPH
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Re: Golden Motor Electric Scooter Hub Motors (Super Integra

Postby NeilP » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:17 am

21 mph and 48 volt would be perfect.
I have spare controller here..12 FET Xlyte sensorless could use that.
Anyone know if these are sensolress or sensor motors?.. would prefer sensored for smoother pull off
Mongoose frame, Fox F100 forks,26x2.3 tyres
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100V 20Ah LiPo
Lyen 18 FET 65 Amp,5304 in 26 inch Mavic rim

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Re: Golden Motor Electric Scooter Hub Motors (Super Integra

Postby Cheeseboy » Sat May 05, 2012 4:58 am

Hi Neil, did you purchase one?

I am almost certain the 12" MW12B motor is sensored, coming from this post in the golden motor forums

"Oh, and the GM controllers are ofcourse PWM, and the hall sensors inside the motors works at 5V, and delivers 0V to just below 5V out... "

"Phases are 120 degrees."

here is the link:

http://goldenmotor.com/SMF/index.php?to ... 2#msg20632

I've been looking at them for my scooter design (been looking at the 6" one and particularly the 8" Hub24A, which doesn't have any price...) and just emailed them regarding the thinner models.

apparently their email communication isn't great though, so I don't know how helpful they'll be...

all going well I'll have two of the thin 8 inch motors soon, I'll post here about them seeing no one seems to have really tested them yet.
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Re: Golden Motor Electric Scooter Hub Motors (Super Integra

Postby NeilP » Sat May 05, 2012 5:26 am

No, not yet.

I have a smallish motor here...154mm diameter inside the spoke flange. I am thinking of trying to lace to either a small kids bike wheel..but spoke hole number issues...or find a solid tyre to fit over the hub motor direct...not sure yet
Mongoose frame, Fox F100 forks,26x2.3 tyres
180mm disks
100V 20Ah LiPo
Lyen 18 FET 65 Amp,5304 in 26 inch Mavic rim

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Re: Golden Motor Electric Scooter Hub Motors (Super Integra

Postby Cheeseboy » Sat May 05, 2012 5:51 am

I've had good results a while back using a strip of Urethane straight on a small brushed hub motor.

got the idea from here:

http://web.mit.edu/first/scooter/#motor

They used 80a Urethane, I used whatever I could get my hands on at the time, I think it was a softer type. It worked well as a tyre, and glues easily to the motor if you rough up the metal surface a bit.

Just an idea, good luck!

motor width is my current issue though, so I can't do that this time...
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Re: Golden Motor Electric Scooter Hub Motors (Super Integra

Postby NeilP » Sat May 05, 2012 6:09 am

i was hoping for one of these
http://www.greentyre.co.uk/w6inch.html
Mongoose frame, Fox F100 forks,26x2.3 tyres
180mm disks
100V 20Ah LiPo
Lyen 18 FET 65 Amp,5304 in 26 inch Mavic rim

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