FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby nonlineartom » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:05 pm

My falcon ev bag has ripped :( the stitching has torn along the top end between the course outer layer and the nylon lining where it stitches onto the zip. My bag has always been a little bit of a strain to shut, to the point the zipper snapped off ages ago. Only carrying 12s 2p (4 packs total) in the bottom of the bag, but because the weight is at the bottom it sags on the right hand side making it difficult to close as the bag is unsupported on the bottom edge due to the large triangle size. Annoying as it's not weather proof anymore.
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby neptronix » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:47 pm

That sucks. The bag is really designed to have the weight rested on the bottom, the top straps don't do too much.
If it is difficult to close, it seems like the top tube would be supporting some of the weight, but that's a bad area to put stress.
For your frame, maybe you should make a supporting bar of some kind. I've had good results with my trek, probably because the bottom tube is sorta flat, preventing the left/right problem.

There are some other triangle bags out there, but they aren't as big. They would still warrant some investigation. I already wasted $$$ on the power in motion / crystalyte bag, so you guys get to be the guinea pigs for the other packs.. :P
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby ohzee » Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:00 pm

haha love you neptronix - enjoy following your posts.

I loosened my top straps and thanks for the ideas. Luckily my frame is just right and the batteries actually do
rest on the bottom bar like they should. I am planning on ordering some of methtek's boards so may do something
more perm down the road.

Sorry yours tore Tom. I still have the opinion these are about the best triangle bag you can find.. Only negative I
think is the falcon on the side.

Will keep this thread updated on how mine works out.
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby nonlineartom » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:33 am

If the bag was supported on the bottom I think it would be totally fine it's just because it's hanging from the top bar. Hardly any weight in there so it won't be stressing the frame too much. For the commuter I'm going to build a plywood box like shelbyelectros, bit more resiliant, If I can stitch up the Falcon EV bag I'll put it on my 17" frame hardrock as it fits like a glove in that frame and the load is more evenly distributed.
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby Spacey » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:10 am

I added some steel strip support at the bottom of the bag held in place by the cup holder on the frame, makes a huge difference and that iswith 12 of those big chunky crappy 16Ah Headway cells that weigh a ton.
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby V_Mark » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:20 am

A while back, mine ripped from having the top straps too tight. The way I had it setup originally, the bag was suspended within the frame.

I fixed the rips with some safety pins and black duct tape. It doesn't look too bad (doesn't look great either,) but it's holding together fine for now. At some point it will need to be sewn up properly.

It now rests on the bottom bar when I ride, but due to my 22.5" frame I can only get the front two straps on the top bar.
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby gblast123 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:08 am

I have one of these and you need to be careful about the weight. I overloaded mine when I first got it.

but since it was just a few weeks after I got it, Andy replaced it. as long as you dont overstuff it or exceed its weight carrying ability, they seem to work great.

Recently, he has upgraded the material. His new Gen. 2 bags have double the material strength , 600D to 1000D, I think that means Dieners... don't know the technical meaning but it has something to do with the type and thickness of the Nylon they use.

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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby ohzee » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:17 am

Is that Falcon name his brand or something ? Curious why it's on the side.. Good info thanks for sharing.
Hopefully I have one of the v2 bags.. I can honestly say it seems pretty damn sturdy all the way around.
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby nonlineartom » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:18 am

Falcon EV bag seen here on my Schwinn, as you can see the frame is too big which has caused it to tear along to top. Still using it and it is still very much weatherproof. I would move it forward and down so it's resting on the down tube but the straps wont be long enough to support the back.


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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby neptronix » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:34 pm

https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=store.catalog&CategoryID=1

Alternative to the falconEV bags, if i haven't posted it yet.
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby Kinni420 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:59 pm

any idea of a price on those neptronix? site dont show SH%@.

nonlineartom: Ive had some great experiences with professional tailors that could easily fix and modify your pack for very low prices, its a ten minute job for them. check it out.
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby jasonf150 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:02 am

V_Mark wrote:I just received mine and can confirm that it will fit a 48v 15ah Ping. It's a little snug, but zippers have enough clearance. Plenty of room for padding except for the sides.


Can you post an open and closed pic of the Ping in there? I think that's what battery I'm going with.
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby nonlineartom » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:31 am

Kinni420 wrote:any idea of a price on those neptronix? site dont show SH%@.

nonlineartom: Ive had some great experiences with professional tailors that could easily fix and modify your pack for very low prices, its a ten minute job for them. check it out.



SInce that post I took it to a local tailors who stitched it up with a new patch of fabric, you can't tell it's been repaired at all. I've since build a wooden shelf on the frame to support the bottom of the bag so the seems aren't under load anymore
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby neptronix » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:04 am

Whoops, didn't answer about the price..
Originally i paid about $45 but it's up to $50 or so now, shipped to the continental US.

Both of my falconEV bags are still in perfect shape.

Too bad they are problematic when it comes to building a dual suspension rig :(
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby nonlineartom » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:56 pm

he would do well to start selling a new version of the falcon EV bag which is split into two halves, hung over the top bar like a pannier sort of bag, but maintaining the same internal volume as the falcon EV split in 2 parts with a semi-rigid inwardly facing panels. Each side having 50mm space width wise to accomodate pretty much any LiPo pack.

He could sell that shit for $70 and people would buy it....


....anyone know some good manufactures?!
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby JoramsWeapon » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:22 pm

nonlineartom wrote:he would do well to start selling a new version of the falcon EV bag which is split into two halves, hung over the top bar like a pannier sort of bag, but maintaining the same internal volume as the falcon EV split in 2 parts with a semi-rigid inwardly facing panels. Each side having 50mm space width wise to accomodate pretty much any LiPo pack.

He could sell that shit for $70 and people would buy it....


....anyone know some good manufactures?!


Indeed he could. If Hi-Power Cycles would restock their large bags I'd be buying them for certain, between them and FalconEV they are the only ones to produce a quality canvas bag with the dimensions we need. I was emailing one of the owners of Hi-Power Cycles and they will not be stocking the big bags for some time...
If they charge $100 for a bag of your description it would sell, but lets not give them any ideas :roll:
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby neptronix » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:44 pm

buy direct from HPC's supplier and avoid the markup over retail that they add.

https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=store.catalog&CategoryID=1&ProductID=5

They're in stock too.

But if you do have a full triangle, do yourself a favor and get the falconEV bag. It is the biggest and sturdiest thing out there.
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby ohzee » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:58 pm

I am still loving mine been packing it full of 12 6s 5000mah batteries with no problems once I loosened
stress on the top bar. once i changed my packing lower as nepro suggested it's working out great.
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby shorza » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:30 pm

I don't suppose these bags could stretch to fit 3 4s hardcases side by side?
5 inches?
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby neptronix » Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:07 am

You very well might be able to if you remove the casing.
You can fit 12S side by side, as it is.

I'm ordering a 3rd bag soon.
I seriously base my eBike builds on this bag from now on.
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby sflorlando » Fri May 04, 2012 1:20 pm

Heres a little doodad that I put together.

It consists of some mounting brackets, 1 inch aluminum tubing and also some aluminum u channel.

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It simply sits on the top frame

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and heres it on the bike
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not 100% done yet, need to figure out a way to keep the bottom supported.

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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby ohzee » Fri May 04, 2012 1:22 pm

Wow nice. How does that work with your legs ? So you have 2 bags right one on each side ?
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby sflorlando » Fri May 04, 2012 1:30 pm

I need to move it up just a few inches. One bag per side.
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby teklektik » Fri May 04, 2012 3:27 pm

sflorlando wrote:It consists of some mounting brackets, 1 inch aluminum tubing and also some aluminum u channel.

Very clever. :)
Where did you obtain the plastic mounting brackets for the round tube?
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Re: FalconEV 19" triangle bag.

Postby neptronix » Fri May 04, 2012 6:38 pm

One thing to know is that most of the battery weight should rest on the bottom, or the top straps end up tearing off.
Holding 10-20lb of battery in a vibration prone environment is tough.

I'm interested in seeing how this pans out.
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