1606 review ON HOLD due to 18fet issue

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1606 review ON HOLD due to 18fet issue

Postby wasp » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:19 pm

i recently purchased a couple of 1606 9continent hubs and a cycle analist from ebikes.ca
first service from ebikes.ca was as pleasant and speedy as all have reported
i was told they needed 1 week lead time for the cadp and asked if i wanted my hubs sent out right away
i told them to just wait and send it out together...to my suprise it all arrived together a day before it was supposed to...nice
one of the hubs arrived with damage from shipping...not a big deal just broke the plastic guard for the wires exiting the hub
i was running a ebikekit.com 9x7 rear 9c(early one with offset issue) and after 20000 kms i decided with 3 broken spokes that
pulled through the rim and my wheel was warped that i needed to upgrade...and at 120 per hub i got 2 for the price i would
have payed for a fast wind 2806 in a 26"rim that was mt orig plan but the 1606 performance looks the same as the 2806 but half the price
this hub is huge even compared to the 9x7 and heavy
thrashed all night to remove the old wheel and install the 1606 and the cadp on my old heap
i left my turnigy watt meter hooked up for testing to compare with the ca
speaking of the ca its huge too and am not a fan of mounting it on one side of the stem or the other it still looks funny
i will drill a hole in the top of my stem and centre mount it with 1 bolt from inside the stem and a little loctite
it will be safe and sucure and centered...i think justin should have made dual mounts that stradled the stem but thats jmo
i will add more in a bit as well as some picks
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Re: 1606 review

Postby wasp » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:49 pm

here are some pics
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Re: 1606 review

Postby wasp » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:17 pm

this is a bent connector
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and the damaged wire guard
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the cadp
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installed and testing with orig 9x7
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Re: 1606 review

Postby wasp » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:32 pm

the 9c removed with 7speed and tube and tire
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the 1606 bare
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found this while removing the 9x7
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the old hub removed
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the 1606
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1606 installed on test heap hope all the marrets hold lol
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Re: 1606 review

Postby wasp » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:44 pm

i have only run it a few times so far and am still messing with the ca
first opinions are not as strong as the 9x7 but does seem to want to run
at 10s and 40amps(peaking at 67) the wiring gets warm
it is pretty quiet
my setting on the controller need to be adjusted for this hub
its faster at 3/4 throttle than full?
lame when limited to 20 amps
amp pig
testing continues...
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Re: 1606 review

Postby geetarboy » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:04 pm

Hey Wasp, I would say you really put that 9c to the test, those phase wires definately got warm. And thats a sh!#load of km's or miles however you do the math... ride on
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Re: 1606 review

Postby wasp » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:56 am

geetarboy wrote:Hey Wasp, I would say you really put that 9c to the test, those phase wires definately got warm. And thats a sh!#load of km's or miles however you do the math... ride on

thx geetarboy
yes the 9x7 has done me well so i plan to have it disassembled and photographed for a long term/high mile review then if its still good i'll have it upgraded and continue to run the bearings off of it again...remember every thing on the 9x7 is stock
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Re: 1606 review

Postby wasp » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:04 pm

i am now running at 10s2p @ 50amps and it is no longer gutless lol but the stock wiring is getting pretty hot
also changed the ca settings for full throttle to 4.98v from 3.87v and intAgain from 300 to 500 so it doesn't
overshoot my amp load so bad...at 300 and ca limit set to 40amps it would over shoot to almost 70amps
now if someone could tell me the pole count so the ca doesn't tell me i am only running 20kph i will feel better
i have it set to 57 poles currently and need to remeasure my tire size
more to come
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Re: 1606 review

Postby wasp » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:03 am

well out testing tonight(my favorite time for riding) and all was going great...
got the pole count from karma(thx) and ended up using 30 pole count on cadp and fine tuned with wheel mm
so i got the speedo working good verified with gps
decided to test the amp difference between cadp and my turnigy and held the front brake on(no overide hooked up on front brake makes testing easier)
and gunned it and she shut down before i could get a reading...cadp dead,and turnigy dead...shit and i'm miles from home
oh well just pedal home...nope major cogging...so disconnected 1 phaze wire and still cogging so disconnected a second and it now rolls freely
i will just bike home...nope derailer was never set up(never pedal) and now spits the chain off so i walked home and put her away
testing will have to wait for repairs to my lyen 18fet and of course my backup controller a 9fet is broken aswell(never got around to fixing it)
hopefully be back testing in a week
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Re: 1606 review ON HOLD due to 18fet issue

Postby geetarboy » Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:29 am

hey Wasp, My Lyen 18fet needs repair too, which is why I switched to the high voltage one. It ran almost 4000 miles at 24s, so I can't blame Edward. I am getting used to the new CA, it is 'very big' though. Hope you're back in the saddle soon....
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Re: 1606 review ON HOLD due to 18fet issue

Postby wasp » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:36 am

turns out i blew 6 of the 18fets in my controller...good time to upgrade to 4110's and have the traces beefed
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