richirich1113 wrote:ya, it doesnt matter. No matter what someone has or what they paid for it their will always be the people that will have to brag that what they can build or spend will always be better.
Blackarrow, Please build me 2-3 of the same bike i got from them for the same price, it sounds like a great deal or maybe you should start a prebuilt bike business- it sounds like you could make a fortune and put HPC out of business. Why just talk about it?
richirich1113 wrote:It was another thread on HPc i said i wasnt coming back to.
As i pointed out a few posts up, that Neptronix had to agree with, there are no vendors (unless you want to spend $10,000 or more for a stealth or optibike) of prebuilt bikes that arent a piece of crap or limited to 20mph..
I know that's exactly my point too much money even for a single ebike ...even if it came's from HPC.richirich1113 wrote:
Two of my bikes for $5000+ shipping Is not really saving me any money over what i spent.
richirich1113 wrote:Yep, and riding a phasor looking bike( nice looking but looks to much like a motorcycle) on the streets around here will definatly get you hasseled by the police.
Humm... I never say that they sell them prebuilt for 5000 $, i have said that you can "build" your own ebike for this price.richirich1113 wrote:
And when do you think Phasor is going to sell them prebuilt for $5,000? ?
Ypedal wrote:I dont have that much of an issue with the price tag.. put time into a build you have to charge for it.. if people are willing to buy it.. then so be it..
however.. the marketing techniques get on my nerves...
richirich1113 wrote: i am seeing 2800w peaks, so i dont get it.
richirich1113 wrote:They do not claim this as continous power so being able to hit 3500w i dont see as misleading. If the bike couldnt pull that many watts no matter what the circumstance, Then ya i would have to say BS, but it does pull that and more.
neptronix wrote: Otherwise my MAC would have been sold as a 4000w motor, my 20C lipos would have been sold as 50C, my 12FET would have been sold as a 80A controller.. Gosh, i'd have some pretty impressive equipment on my hands if only a professional liar had sold me them
hi-powercycles wrote:We actually do appreciate your guys' input. I see where some of you are coming from. We will make some changes accordingly. Thank you.
-Stock photos will be phased out for actual shots of the bikes
-Power levels will be more clear that they are NOT a continuous rating of the motor, it is just nominal battery voltage x current output of the controller (actual power output)
-Range will be indicated as a maximum range @ 18-20 MPH.
Contrary to what people may think, we do have our own motors, they are more efficient than any Crystalyte HS (less heat buildup at higher wattages), and in one full year of selling our gearless motors, there has NOT been one instance of a burnt motor. We know what we are doing and we keep things at a safe level, but at the same time push "accepted" boundaries. That's what HPC is all about.
Watch as people blow their shiny brand new Crystalyte 54xx's on that kind of power.
Philistine wrote:Watch as people blow their shiny brand new Crystalyte 54xx's on that kind of power.
Are you joking Neptronix? The 54s will be able to run 4-5 kw without skipping a beat. I used to run that on my X5303 stock, unvented, until my 20ah battery was drained, and it didn't even break a sweat.
On hills for long periods of time?
Were you doing it in a 26" wheel like hipower cycles sets their bikes up, or something smaller?
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