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yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby wojtek » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:21 pm

here we go, some pictures..
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got a second hand KMX cobra [as new] and installed battery case, i got it below 10EUR and it perfectly accomodates 2x 6 22v5ah turnigy packs, being compact lightweight and quite strong. However i will have to waterproof it.

i also changed crankset to a high quality 2speed one with 140mm long crank arms. this will be better for my knees and give more clearance between battery case and legs

[i still have some of those cranks if anyone interested]

Next to do is to connect the packs to create 88v 15ah..
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build

Postby cbr shadow » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:35 am

Looking forward to hearing about it!
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby wojtek » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:42 pm

thanks!

has anyone already tried 54xx with lyen controller please?

according to Edward as below, but if someone has already made it working, i would highly appreciate the confirmation [never know if Kenny used the same colouring for this batch ;)

Lyen Controller to Crystalyte motor wire color lining:

Controller: Motor:
HALL:
Yellow Yellow
Green Blue
Blue Green

PHASE:
Yellow Blue
Green Green
Blue Yellow
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby Drunkskunk » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:38 am

[quote="wojtek"]
[i still have some of those cranks if anyone interested]
quote]


Have any of those that will fit a 100mm bottom bracket?
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby wojtek » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:35 pm

100mm is a long one..

no it wont fit im afraid. but fits perfectly KMX trikes ;) and i guess any other pretty standard frames

Drunkskunk wrote:
wojtek wrote:[i still have some of those cranks if anyone interested]
quote]


Have any of those that will fit a 100mm bottom bracket?
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby wojtek » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:39 pm

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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby Ypedal » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:33 pm

should post pictures here.. google+ sucks balls.... and ends up with broken links when the forum goes thru changes.. :wink:


.. i may be interested in them cranks !!!
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby Deutch420 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:38 pm

wojtek wrote:thanks!

has anyone already tried 54xx with lyen controller please?

Lyen Controller to Crystalyte motor wire color lining:

Controller: Motor:
HALL:
Yellow Yellow
Green Blue
Blue Green

PHASE:
Yellow Blue
Green Green
Blue Yellow



That is the color combo that worked on my 5403
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby Brentis » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:50 pm

Ypedal wrote:should post pictures here.. google+ sucks balls.... and ends up with broken links when the forum goes thru changes.. :wink:


.. i may be interested in them cranks !!!


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What, I gotta sign up/in to see. :cry:

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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby wojtek » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:22 pm

Ypedal wrote:should post pictures here.. google+ sucks balls.... and ends up with broken links when the forum goes thru changes.. :wink:


.. i may be interested in them cranks !!!


i thought posting pictures were not advisable as many times they were dead after some time :)

yes the cranks look good + 140mm arm lenght gives you more clearace for placing bigger battery box in front...
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby wojtek » Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:40 am

today i changed the front tyres.. put Maxxis Snyper 2.25
i will be also changing the rear tyre to MTB

and also worked on mudguards ...

This is my off road setup with bigger clearance.. the cornering is not great but i will see how it goes. I only did few rounds with it today as the weather sucked.
But i have a feeling that Steintrike Mungo sport cornered better, not only because of 18/20 inch wheels but maybe because of front suspension and i found it easier to put my weight on sides..

maybe pushing the seat forward be good idea but i already have the boom max forward and if i push the seat forward the distance to the pedals will be too short...

Im planning to get also a set of 16/20 inch tyres for road riding.. one day!
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby wojtek » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:49 pm

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safety flag with LEDs on tadpole trike

Postby wojtek » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:32 am

today installed the safety flag with led lights from ebikes.ca
+ additional rear light attached to TA..
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby wojtek » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:59 am

first longer test with my KMX!!!!

mostly flats

with the replacement Crystalyte 24-72v 35a controller, at 44v nominal.

5405 behaves like sleeping beauty, very delicate, slow, gentle, quiet, totally cold after 40min of WOT but getting around 350-400W on WOT on flats in 26inch rim.. No issues whatsoever!

the axle thread luckily was only in the beginning of the end of axle [around 1 cm] and i think it was a human mistake rather than the manufacturing [someone just damaged the thread by forcing the bolt incorrectly]

hope to avoid other issues some of you have.

the cornering is unforgiving and unpredictable... comparing to FS Steini Mungo but i still need TIME to learn it. obviously 20/26inch will never corner but for reasonable riding it is perfect.

time for 16/20 inch setup ;)

this beast is great! if it keeps performing as it is, it will be my favourite ;)

Now time to do some offroad from from i can see, calling KMX trikes mountin tricycles is a joke! :twisted:
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby wojtek » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:26 am

test run

5405 in 26'' rim and 2.5 hookwarm tires
turnigy 30c 50v30ah
crystalyte 24-72v 35a
max speed 33 kmh at around 300-370W / +100W against the wind

i think it is pretty efficient

motor at start: 22C / after finish [1h ride on flats] 28C
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby wojtek » Sat May 05, 2012 3:53 pm

another test run:

75,4v [66v nominal 66v30ah cells]

48-48.5kmh max at 1100-1200W on flat [depending on wind]

same xlyte 24-72v 35a controller
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby wojtek » Thu May 10, 2012 1:07 pm

update:
1. change the placing of CA
2. shimano saint disc brakes [incredible stopping power!]
3. chain derailleur [clean]
4. pre-charge resistor with 125A switch
5. side battery box waterproofing [with bike rubber innertube..]

still to go:
1. new powerful controller
2. welding another side box handles
3. installing regen braking button [when 1 is done]
4. reverse gear switch [when 1 is done]
5. wheel block switch [when 1 is done]
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Postby cbr shadow » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:40 pm

Looking good! Any updates?
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