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The Perfect Storm

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Jan 18, 2017 1:53 pm

This brand almost overnight has grown the largest, most wildly enthusiastic following of owners in the eBike world, but you wouldn't know it here on es, because shortly after it's crowd funding launch 2 years ago industrial trolls moved in, and tried to kill the brand before it got started. I guess the low price, and good looks of the bike, plus the fact that a million dollars worth of bikes were sold on the first day of the launch was seen as a major threat to the established eBike industry. For months after the launch when anyone tried to start a positive conversation about the bike on any popular forum on the internet, they were quickly attacked from all sides as being a know nothing nube, that was going to lose his money at worst, or get a crappy pos bike at best.

That forced all the supporters to retreat to the one safe harbor on the internet, a private, independent Facebook owners group started specifically for the Storm brand. That owners group now boasts almost 5500 members to date, which includes major eBike venders such as Luna Cycle, Velosmobile Shop, Kinaye Motorsports, Passion eBike from China, and others. Now Storm's have the largest variety of specifically dedicated high performance aftermarket parts, of any eBike brand in the world.

To some small degree I think this incredible success can be directly attributed to the trolling early on that drove owners into one large group, which made the brand an attractive target for eBike businesses looking to increase sales, which made the bikes even more desirable to riders, and builders such as myself. Now the thing has gotten so big it's created it's own self-sustaining atmosphere, independent of all outside forces.

This is my lightly modified Storm fatty otherwise known as a Sondors eBike.

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Storm's are decent bikes in stock form especially considering the price, but what makes them different from most other factory bikes are 2 main things. 1. how easy they are to customize, and 2. the gigantic following they have on their private Facebook Owners Group. My bike does 27 mph without pedaling, and at that speed has 40 mile range. Of course I like to pedal, and you can't ride 40 miles at top speed in town so my range is usually around 50 to 70 miles with normal riding. My pedal gearing is tall enough that I can pedal comfortably at top speed. 6th gear for power, and 7th is like overdrive. You could duplicate my bike for less than $2000 which includes the cost of the bike, shipping, plus all the extra parts I've added. Probably the best part is you don't have to be an eBike rocket scientist to build this, because most of it is plug and play, but it's just challenging enough to make it fun.

These are some of the modifications I made to my bike to suit my riding style. I live in Dallas which is a huge sprawling metroplex, so I need a lot of range to get anywhere. It's 20 miles to downtown from my neighborhood so one of my first changes was a bigger battery. A Storm is a great bike for adding a big battery to, because of it's unique looking, and functional plastic box located in the frames V. At the same time I upped the voltage from 36 to 48v, and the amp hours from 8.8 to 30.

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So far the most satisfying change I made was to swap out the stock 350w motor with a 750w. The 750s are set up for 7 speed freewheels. The overall motor width is only about 3/8" wider which is easy to stretch steel frame drop outs that much. You can run a 25 or 35 amp controller with the 750. The best part is you don't even have to lace the motor in your rim. Just pop the guts of the stock motor out, and slide the 750 into the stock hub. It's takes about 2 minutes, and you're done.

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by teslanv » Jan 18, 2017 2:01 pm

That's a nice bike...
But I think mine is more perfecter. ;)
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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Jan 18, 2017 3:24 pm

No matter where I ride, every guy thinks his bike is best. Why should we be any different? :D

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by motomech » Jan 30, 2017 2:18 am

I'm really suprised that this post hasn't received more of a response. I looked at the storm when it first was being marketed, but there was some concerns over delivery dates. Looks like everything has worked out for the good.
If I was getting into the sport today, this is the route I would go. Frankly, I have more money in my 2WD mountain bike than the Storm, even the up-dated version.
Well done.
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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Jan 30, 2017 10:42 am

motomech wrote:I'm really suprised that this post hasn't received more of a response. I looked at the storm when it first was being marketed, but there was some concerns over delivery dates. Looks like everything has worked out for the good.
If I was getting into the sport today, this is the route I would go. Frankly, I have more money in my 2WD mountain bike than the Storm, even the up-dated version.
Well done.
Thank you for your positive critique.

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Jan 30, 2017 11:04 am

teslanv wrote:That's a nice bike...
But I think mine is more perfecter. ;)
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Easy for this guy to say since he owns Kinaye Motorsports lol.

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by BruceTS » Jan 30, 2017 12:06 pm

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This is the Perfect Storm....... Last Saturdays small get together....
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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by BruceTS » Jan 30, 2017 12:09 pm

You could always go with dual 750's 52v battery for a 2WD and some Vee Snowshoe 5.5 tires for a fun machine in the sand
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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Jan 30, 2017 12:32 pm

BruceTS wrote:
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This is the Perfect Storm....... Last Saturdays small get together....
One thing worth noting about this picture is, this is not some kind of factory backed get together. These are all individual owners getting together to ride.

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Green Machine » Jan 30, 2017 2:15 pm

I always said it was in incedible bike for the money if Sondors manages to delivers.

Later on in the campaign when Storm posted pictures of him in china it was clear he was going to deliver and man did he deliver.

I remember when i first saw a sondors in person i thought wow this is amazing bike for the money and someone who really loved that bike picked out every detail. Every part was thought out.

that bike looks better than most 3000 dollar bikes that existed in the industry at that time.

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Feb 27, 2017 11:07 am

I made my bike a little more perfect with a 18 fet 35 amp controller. With this same configuration I've tried a 25 amp controller, a 35 amp with 12 fet, and a 35 amp with 18 fet. It keeps getting better each time.

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Scoot440 » Feb 27, 2017 1:46 pm

That's a sweet bike!

What derailleur and shifter did you use when you added the 7-speed?
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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Feb 28, 2017 12:09 am

Scoot440 wrote:That's a sweet bike!

What derailleur and shifter did you use when you added the 7-speed?
I bought it on eBay.

Shimano Tourney TX35 6/7-Speed Rear Derailleur w/ Hanger

The shifter is a 7 speed grip shift

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Scoot440 » Feb 28, 2017 3:12 pm

Thanks!

Is your 750 watt motor the same as this one from Lunacycle?

https://lunacycle.com/48v-750w-geared-fat-motor-kit/
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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Chalo » Feb 28, 2017 4:18 pm

I've seen a few now. They look fine, but then so do Huffys. I wouldn't recommend one to someone who wants a reliable turnkey e-bike to put plenty of miles on. But for occasional recreational use, or someone who likes to tinker, it'll do.

Spend the same amount on a no-nonsense pedal bike, and you'll probably go faster.
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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Feb 28, 2017 10:06 pm

Chalo wrote:I've seen a few now. They look fine, but then so do Huffys. I wouldn't recommend one to someone who wants a reliable turnkey e-bike to put plenty of miles on. But for occasional recreational use, or someone who likes to tinker, it'll do.

Spend the same amount on a no-nonsense pedal bike, and you'll probably go faster.
As long as you don't mind spending $8000, go for it.

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Re: The Perfect Storm

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Re: The Perfect Storm

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by st35326 » Mar 01, 2017 9:21 am

My thing is I just don't want the same bike that everyone else has. I can't ride to the store here in SoCal without running into five of these things and the owners all want to have a discussion about it. I thought about getting my 66 year old father who (doesn't really ride) one for his birthday but ended up buying him a Juiced Rider instead.

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Mar 01, 2017 1:26 pm

st35326 wrote:My thing is I just don't want the same bike that everyone else has. I can't ride to the store here in SoCal without running into five of these things and the owners all want to have a discussion about it. I thought about getting my 66 year old father who (doesn't really ride) one for his birthday but ended up buying him a Juiced Rider instead.
I can understand how that would get of old, but every other eBike brand wishes they had that problem. Here in Dallas they aren't that thick. I've only run across about 7 at large in the last year and a half, but that still beats any other single brand.

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Mar 05, 2017 11:17 am

I made my bike a little more perfect with a set of Luna Lander air forks.

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by chas58 » Mar 06, 2017 1:24 pm

Nice bike theo. Good work in the community too. I remember all of the planning you were doing when this bike was first offered, especially those slow profile tires!. Looks like you have had a ball customizing yours! Now you need one of those little shorty rear fenders (if for nothing else, to keep the slime off the controller).

I'm really impressed that the Storm bikes came out so well - even better than I had imagined! I'm glad it turned out well.
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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Mar 07, 2017 10:21 am

chas58 wrote:Nice bike theo. Good work in the community too. I remember all of the planning you were doing when this bike was first offered, especially those slow profile tires!. Looks like you have had a ball customizing yours! Now you need one of those little shorty rear fenders (if for nothing else, to keep the slime off the controller).

I'm really impressed that the Storm bikes came out so well - even better than I had imagined! I'm glad it turned out well.
Thanks chas, it been a strange and exciting journey. Fenders are on my to do list.

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Apr 02, 2017 10:41 am

I decided to dump the rear rack and install new fenders. These are Electra alloy fenders

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Re: The Perfect Storm

Post by torker » Apr 02, 2017 11:52 am

Been away from the forum for 2 or 3 yrs. I remember these. Loved them.
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