When Windows 7 is dead in 2020 what OS will you migrate to??

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When Windows 7 is dead in 2020 what OS will you migrate to??

Windows 8/10/?
17
33%
ReactOS
0
No votes
Chrome
4
8%
Mac
2
4%
Unix
0
No votes
Linux
22
43%
BeOS
0
No votes
Amix
0
No votes
FreeDos
1
2%
Other
5
10%
 
Total votes: 51

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Re: When Windows 7 is dead in 2020 what OS will you migrate to??

Post by dustNbone » Sep 06 2019 10:44pm

If you're looking for an Ubuntu with a similar look and feel to Windows, I'd go with Kubuntu. KDE is far and away the best desktop environment available period IMHO.

It's got the same basic layout as Windows, apps menu bottom left, taskbar, clock, etc bottom right. No one will have trouble figuring out how to get things done and the overall level of polish is excellent. If Windows had a UI as well thought out as KDE I would hate it substantially less.

XFCE (default Xubuntu desktop) is designed to be as lightweight as possible, nice if you're running it on a Raspberry Pi but not really a factor for a modern PC. It works well enough but still has alot of rough edges and it's minimalist design goals mean it lacks many conveniences. It's also has many less years of development behind it than KDE or GNOME.

If the computer can run Windows tolerably it will handle a full featured desktop like KDE just fine. In fact it will fly by comparison.

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Re: When Windows 7 is dead in 2020 what OS will you migrate to??

Post by --Oz-- » Sep 08 2019 12:02am

dustNbone wrote:
Sep 06 2019 10:44pm
If you're looking for an Ubuntu with a similar look and feel to Windows, I'd go with Kubuntu. KDE is far and away the best desktop environment available period IMHO.

It's got the same basic layout as Windows, apps menu bottom left, taskbar, clock, etc bottom right. No one will have trouble figuring out how to get things done and the overall level of polish is excellent. If Windows had a UI as well thought out as KDE I would hate it substantially less.

XFCE (default Xubuntu desktop) is designed to be as lightweight as possible, nice if you're running it on a Raspberry Pi but not really a factor for a modern PC. It works well enough but still has alot of rough edges and it's minimalist design goals mean it lacks many conveniences. It's also has many less years of development behind it than KDE or GNOME.

If the computer can run Windows tolerably it will handle a full featured desktop like KDE just fine. In fact it will fly by comparison.
I have only played with linux a couple times, I did like ultimate linux as it seemed to have most everything, but since i dont know much about linux and there is so many flavors, its crazy to just guess what is the better one for me.
I have used this simple little program "liux live usb creator" and in a few clicks you have a installable linux on flash drive. I guess one its pluses (not for me), it can boot linux in a VM on windows. I just like that its easy to get going with it, its found here http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/help/guide/preparation

I see it has Kubuntu 15.04 "vivid vervet" (KDE), is that the one you suggest?

Is there better ways to go about getting Linux on a bootable USB drive to install a fresh copy on to a SSD?
TIA

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Re: When Windows 7 is dead in 2020 what OS will you migrate to??

Post by dustNbone » Sep 08 2019 2:38am

Current version of Kubuntu (and all current Ubuntu variants) is 19.04, released this April. It looks like that tool you were using is outdated, and possibly no longer maintained. That's one of the problems with those kind of utilities, they tend to get updated far less often than new versions of Linux distros come out.

For writing bootable USB devices in Windows, I generally use Rufus:

https://rufus.ie/

It doesn't download the ISO images itself, just writes them to USB so you'll have to download the distros you want to write manually.

You can get Kubuntu here:

https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/

And a detailed tutorial on how to use Rufus to write Ubuntu images:

https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/t ... -windows#0

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Re: When Windows 7 is dead in 2020 what OS will you migrate to??

Post by --Oz-- » Sep 09 2019 10:14pm

@ dustNbone Thanks!!!
bookmarked, will try it soon!

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Re: When Windows 7 is dead in 2020 what OS will you migrate to??

Post by sleepy_tired » Oct 05 2019 11:12am

Just keep in mind that the majority of Linux users still use Gnome and it's the default for most major Linux distributions. The more you stray into custom desktops and less common installations the more problems and more expertise you are going to need to be successful.

I also don't really see much of a point to having some Linux desktop that looks like Windows when it'll never behave like Windows. It just gets confusing to use the same icons and metaphors when everything behind them is completely different. It's really just a trap.

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Re: When Windows 7 is dead in 2020 what OS will you migrate to??

Post by TheBeastie » Nov 09 2019 12:27am

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I think Windows 10 at about $15 is a fair price and what it should be for anyone.
I game way too much to be able to give up windows.

What these guys do is take old thrown away windows 7 PCs at major recyclers and convert the windows 7 key to a free upgrade windows 10 pro key and strip it of being attached to any owner/hardware etc.

I have seen pretty popular YouTubers pimp their service and continually claim it's fully legitimate.. I have bought one so I know it works. https://youtu.be/S-5GRirpzKU?t=1001
Windows 10 is going to be around forever so it's handy to have a real key.
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Re: When Windows 7 is dead in 2020 what OS will you migrate to??

Post by --Oz-- » Nov 14 2019 11:38am

On ebay you can get Win10 keys for $3 or less, I have bought 6 so far over the past 9 months, no issues with them so far, the issue I have is Winblows10, constantly ramming crap down my throat, constantly taking my freedom away. Been a windows users since win286, and supporting it since then, now I am starting to hate it, the last years win10 updates have been a abortion.

My perfectly good 11yo i7-920, pop in a spare ssd in, load win10, all kinds of driver issues with my gigabyte motherboard, so cant run win10 on it (that I know) so toss a perfectly working pc because winblows updates. :kff: megashaft

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Re: When Windows 7 is dead in 2020 what OS will you migrate to??

Post by stan.distortion » Nov 14 2019 12:50pm

sleepy_tired wrote:
Oct 05 2019 11:12am
Just keep in mind that the majority of Linux users still use Gnome and it's the default for most major Linux distributions. The more you stray into custom desktops and less common installations the more problems and more expertise you are going to need to be successful.

I also don't really see much of a point to having some Linux desktop that looks like Windows when it'll never behave like Windows. It just gets confusing to use the same icons and metaphors when everything behind them is completely different. It's really just a trap.
I think most distros still have the BSOD screensaver, seeing a blue screen every 15 minutes goes a fair way to simulating the experience :twisted:
Was surprised to see BeOS in there, I thought it was a mixed up abbreviation of Berkley OS at first but no, BeOS is back! :)

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Re: When Windows 7 is dead in 2020 what OS will you migrate to??

Post by neptronix » Nov 14 2019 4:48pm

BeOS lives on as haiku. AFAIK haiku is cool as shit. I wish virtualbox was available for it.. if so, i'd be running it as my host OS :bigthumb:

https://www.haiku-os.org/

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Re: When Windows 7 is dead in 2020 what OS will you migrate to??

Post by TheBeastie » Nov 15 2019 4:34am

--Oz-- wrote:
Nov 14 2019 11:38am
Been a windows users since win286, and supporting it since then, now I am starting to hate it, the last years win10 updates have been a abortion.

My perfectly good 11yo i7-920, pop in a spare ssd in, load win10, all kinds of driver issues with my gigabyte motherboard, so cant run win10 on it (that I know) so toss a perfectly working pc because winblows updates. :kff: megashaft
The main reason MS do it is that it's cheaper to support only one OS, that being the newest one.
Having security experts code fixes for Windows 7 etc is expensive. This is why they kind of gave away Windows 10 for win7 users its ultimately just cheaper easier for MS.

I too am still on the X58 platform, I used to have an i920 but I bought a 1366 X58 compatible Xeon hex-core X5575 CPU for $45AUD and overclocked the crap out of it to 4.6Ghz
I too installed windows 10 on a newly installed SSD on my X58 but conversely what I love about Windows 10 is that I haven't had to install any drivers, Win10 detects everything perfectly, no driver downloads.
No driver problems, no instability problems.
This is what my is my validate ZCPU post after it went through the heat stressing benchmark https://valid.x86.fr/udz19z
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Every time I went looking at a new PC I realized it wasn't much faster, PCIe v3 is only 1% faster max in games over PCIe v2 (with 1% margin for error :) )
I have long decided I won't upgrade until 5Ghz CPUs become common or IPC at least doubles from what I have, I am still waiting. Computers are similar to cars, you can buy a new v8 but it's not going really go any faster, what I want is v16 I guess.
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Re: When Windows 7 is dead in 2020 what OS will you migrate to??

Post by dustNbone » Nov 15 2019 6:34pm

I wouldn't hold my breath on 5Ghz CPUs. We've had 4+Ghz CPUs for like 15 years now, my new Ryzen has a lower clock speed than the (much slower) one it replaced. So, effective IPC continues to climb, but don't look for 5Ghz processors to be a cost effective performace solution.

As for Windows 10 detecting all hardware, not needing drivers and just working. Well that's maybe true in comparison to older versions of Windows, I've still had more than one occasion where it didn't even pick up the network interfaces to allow me to download the rest of the drivers it didn't have.

"Android phone to the rescue" is still very much a thing while installing 10, while I haven't come across a wired ethernet adapter without support in the Linux kernel in a very long time. Windows 10 is better at most things than 7, but it really isn't good when you compare it to anything that isn't Windows.

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