The official "My Tidalforce S-750 frame creation" thread

[El_Steak]

Nice bike El Duderino.

I need a chainguard like yours, already scrapt too many pair of pants with my "naked" crankset. Did you get it online?

[El Duderino X]

Thanks for the compliment, El_Steak! These frames are fantastic and I really like what you've done with yours. Great work.

I found my chain guards, SKS Chainboard, here: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sks+chainboard&x=0&y=0&ih=9_3_1_1_0_0_0_0_0_1.86_118&fsc=5
I believe it was Niagara Cycle Works that purchased them from.
The 48T guard is a bit snug around the 48T ring on the BionX bike but otherwise works quite nicely.

B.

[El Duderino X]

This chain guard is pretty slick, too. http://www.hebie.de/Chainglider-350-38- ... der.0.html

[SunCoaster]

Here's my Tidalforce build; it rides very well as my on campus transportation. Thanks J.D. for the frame.

[Rin]

This was the last silver frame tidal force bike from Oatnet. I used a 9C 10x6 rear motor. My previous bike had an early Ampedbike front 7x9 winding, I think they were 9c's then. Big difference in many ways. The top speed of course is much better, however, it is a dog on the hills. The first bike with 7x9 was great on hills even with a 36v battery. Also the rear motor is a juice hog. I am using the same 36v10ah battery and I got about 20 mile range on the 7x9, pedaling most of the time. The rear motor is only good for about 13 miles. I guess a larger capacity battery will be necessary in the future. However, I really like the extra top end speed and the bike handles really well. I have a Dart 3 front shock which is a much better ride than my previous no front shock bike.

Thanks to Oatnet for the great deal on the frames and I would like to express my appreciation to all the other Tidal Force builders who have posted their experences as well as pictures. All of the posted info gave me a lot to consider in my build and helped me make it a fairly good experience. I am definitely not as handy as many of you and my workshop is pretty basic. However, I am really pleased with the way the bike turned out. Thanks again. Now I think I am off for a ride.

[chroot]

@Rin

Awesome, nice bike! and Can you give me name of the rack and I need get that similar your rack and bag.

[Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh]

prety sur it's a Topeak MTX with the dovetail slider for the matching quick release MTX trunk bag.
the MTX rack was actually a part of the original TF aux batt package.

[chroot]

@Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh - Thanks.

[Rin]

chroot, Yes, the rack is a Topeak, they have several different models including one if you have rear disc brakes. The bag is also Topeak. They have several sizes, be sure to check for dimensions if you plan on using for battery. The look is somewhat misleading as they don't have as much room inside as it looks.

[chroot]

@Rin-

Thanks, Explorer Tubular Rack w/disc Mounts since I am going use avid bb7 caliper and disc brake.

[El_Steak]

I know this is an old thread, but I'm betting many TF owners have it subscribed.

Did any of you build a custom battery enclosure for frame mounting on the S-750?

[oatnet]

Hi 'steak!

Jerry, at Ashland electric bikes, had completed a model, and was looking to do a production run. Send him a pm I'm sure he'd be glad to hear from you.

-JD

[oatnet]

Jerry of http://www.ashlandelectricbikes.comemailed me that he had one of his S-750 bikes stolen from in front of his shop . The email included a few pictures of his current builds featuring his new battery boxes, so I thought I'd post them here.

This is the one that was stolen

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[El_Steak]

Bummer for the stolen TF.

He did a very slick job with the triangle battery box. I wonder how much he is able to pack in there, that triangle is really small.

I'll send him an email.

[ambroseliao]

I was about to do the same. Let us know what you find out. It looks like a custom fit. Nice!

[ashlandelectricbikes]

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Hi guys. Yes, the battery boxes are quite the nice feature for the Tidalforce bikes. I'm packing them with 48V 10AH LiPo cells from Tenergy. I'm not able to sell any of the boxes with or without batteries right now; I've only got enough for the remaining frames I have. Owing to the interest that these postings have stimulated, I'm going to look into having a quantity of additional boxes and covers made. Once I have the pricing details worked out I will post them here.

FYI, the outside width of the box is 3.75" with a usable interior width of 3". The frame is powder coated aluminum, the side covers are ABS textured plastic. This close up photo shows covers made of expanded PVC sheeting rather than the textured ABS that I settled on, nor does it show the three screws that attach the sides. The photos of the three bikes shows the final version of the cases. Stay tuned.

[ambroseliao]

That's a beautiful case. I would love to know the pricing. You should consider selling the case WITH the battery pack and charger. A turnkey system for the S-750 frame would be popular at 36 volts for Tidalforce owners whose NiMH front hub batteries are dying and also for others who may want a 48v battery.

Ambrose

[itsmedc65]

Look forward to an update on the triangle battery box. I just spent part of my weekend mocking up boxes for the roller I got from icecube57.
Sent email asking about availability and pricing.

[oatnet]

My mid-drive S-750 project with a K-trak installed for snow/sand:

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=48521

-JD

[oatnet]

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I went looking for the first pic in the series (motor breakout), and found it was no longer on the web. Fortunately, I found a copy of this page that I saved in 2008, with pictures that I think should be preserved for ebike history. It has more to do with the history of Wavecrest Tidalforce manufacturing processes than it does the frames, but I needed a place to store it and I figured the folks watching this thread are TF fans. The pictures and text below the dotted line were produced by electricrider.com, and included here for archive purposes.

-JD
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TidalForce Bikes - Made in the USA

In January, 2005, I was invited to tour Wavecrest Labs. I was not allowed to take photographs in the research and development areas, but my camera was welcome where Tidalforce bikes are manufactured and assembled. Enjoy this virtual tour of the facility.

On this pegboard is an exploded view of the parts of the Wavecrest adaptive motor. This is actually a "Generation One" motor, as evidenced by the silver, rather than black, enclosure.

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Wide angle view of the motor assembly area.

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This is the stationary part of the motor. The circuit board is the motor's computer.

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At this position, the computer will be attached to the stator.

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After the computer is attached to the stator, the electromagnets will be added.

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Magnets have been added and it is complete except for the outer shell, which is the moving part of the motor.

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Wide angle view of the battery assembly area

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Battery packs are assembled in the same way.

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Battery pack minus its enclosure. The battery, as the stator of the motor, is stationary. The hub revolves around it.

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The parts look familiar now, as the enclosures are put on batteries and motors.

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Wheels are laced onto the hubs and attached to the bikes.

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Final bike assembly.

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I found this vehicle hidden around a corner. It is an engineer's nature to experiment, and it appears they have built a dune buggy with a motor in each wheel. I bet this one is really fun!

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[Ypedal]

the buggy looks awsome... i wonder where it ended up,.,

[oatnet]

Yeah the 7 phase (IIRC) TF motor and its large diameter stator was reportedly very interesting at higher voltages, would have been a blast in that buggy.

Ambrose's page about TF history has another shot of the buggy, and is generally interesting to boot.

-JD

[ambroseliao]

That article is actually written by Larry Hughes (aka Deerfencer). I'm a relative newbie to Tidalforce bikes. I bought my first about 18 months ago!

[ambroseliao]

I just mounted a Crystalyte motor on my S-750 frame and noticed the colors are almost a perfect match to the titanium Tidalforce frame!

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