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Farfle's Race bike

Postby Farfle » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:28 pm

Building a bike to race in the upcoming SoCal race, heres some specs:

Bike: Genesis 2100 full susp mtn bike. pretty much just the frame left stock.
Battery: Turnigy 24s2p 5000mah 25c cells
Motor: either a 5303 or 5304 in a 20" wheel. Super modded with Xl cooling vanes and 8 Awg phase wires.
Controller: Either a crazy modded crystalyte 12-fet or lyen 18-fet. probably running around 8-9 kw.
Tires: 20" Kenda Kraze 20x3 on a 32mm rim in the front and a 44mm rim in the back.
Brakes: Gatorbrake 6 piston with 203mm rotor in the front and an Avid BB7 and 160mm rotor in the back.

Ill add some pictures and progress as it goes on.
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

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"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Farfle » Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:17 am

just a tease as the build goes along :D

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The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Arlo1 » Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:24 am

A hubbie race bike hu? Why not put some forced cooling in the motor?
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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Farfle » Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:39 am

It will be getting some serious forced cooling. Cant tell all but its 68 cu/in and 4.5k PSI.
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Arlo1 » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:54 am

Farfle wrote:It will be getting some serious forced cooling. Cant tell all but its 68 cu/in and 4.5k PSI.

Awesome. I have a E'l cheepo hobbyking ducked fan I was going to try but it was so out of true it just smoked it self!
Thanks Justin of http://www.ebikes.ca/
Also a thanks to Methy at http://www.methtek.com/ :)
And Dave who has some good deals on STUF
RC lipo and most other types of Lithium batteries you MUST know your individual cell voltages while charging and discharging.
Batteries of all kinds need respect they can burn your house down, so don't sleep with them under your bed or any other were you cant afford smoke or fire!
[color=#FF0000][b][size=150]Never above 4.2v never below 2.7v EVER!!!
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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby bzhwindtalker » Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:18 am

beware with this wallmart frame ;) so cheap though... I'm looking forward on what you will come up with. Don't you think a proper race bike need to have a longer wheelbase? You will flip it over really easy if you want to accelerate really fast :)
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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby TylerDurden » Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:22 am

bzhwindtalker wrote:Don't you think a proper race bike need to have a longer wheelbase?

Agree. That 4-link swingarm would be very easy to extend...
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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby bzhwindtalker » Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:49 am

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Thats how I did it on my frame, it ended up bending just under where the motor mounts, but I was jumping and offroading a lot :oops: I'm now making a new swing arm and modding the suspension. I really like your tires/rims combo, SLIIIIKKK ;)
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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Farfle » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:37 am

I could TIG together an extended swingarm for it, but unless its a problem I don't want to do any welding on it. Limited to 8kw and with the batt in front of and below the triangle, plus my fat arse onboard it shouldn't be a problem. at least not until I get a 54xx motor :twisted: .

bzhwindtalker wrote:beware with this wallmart frame ;) so cheap though... I'm looking forward on what you will come up with. Don't you think a proper race bike need to have a longer wheelbase? You will flip it over really easy if you want to accelerate really fast :)


This wallyworld frame is pretty tough, it stood up to my QC tests :twisted: which involved quickly bolting on the hubmotor and strapping on 4 10lb dive weights to the top tube. And then hitting a 3' drop till I got tired of hearing the rear shock go THUD so I am not going to mess with it. I may get one of the offset seat posts to move it forward a few inches, but it all depends on how it performs.
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


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Re: Farfle's Race bike

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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Farfle » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:45 pm

more pics as progress goes on, controller is mounted, rear wishbone is done and the battery box materials are here. also picked up a new shock but there's no spring! :shock: .

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The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby bzhwindtalker » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:07 am

Now you are talking about serious power to the ground ;) I bet you like the handling now, longer wheelbase bikes wok better at high speed IMO! Nice welds too ;)
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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Farfle » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:18 am

bzhwindtalker wrote:Now you are talking about serious power to the ground ;) I bet you like the handling now, longer wheelbase bikes wok better at high speed IMO! Nice welds too ;)


Thanks mate, just learning how to TIG steel, have been doing aluminum sprinkler pipe forever, but steel is a whoole different game :D .
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby TylerDurden » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:38 am

Looks great. :D
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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Farfle » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:10 pm

:D 888 watt-hour in the triangle :D
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The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby bzhwindtalker » Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:45 am

Are those the 6s 8ah? Thats probably my next battery buy. How will you secure them to the frame?
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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Microbatman » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:03 pm

Great build!!!
Finally someone putting a full suspension 20 inch bike together that does not weigh a ton and is strong as an ox. Also like the stealth real bike look.
Super job on the swing arm.
Love the idea of just modding the lower arm and keeping the rest stock. Makes duplicating this easier than having to fab a hole new rear assembley.
Who made the swing arm?
Keep up the great work. You have raised the bar.
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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Farfle » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:39 pm

Microbatman wrote:Great build!!!
Finally someone putting a full suspension 20 inch bike together that does not weigh a ton and is strong as an ox. Also like the stealth real bike look.
Super job on the swing arm.
Love the idea of just modding the lower arm and keeping the rest stock. Makes duplicating this easier than having to fab a hole new rear assembley.
Who made the swing arm?
Keep up the great work. You have raised the bar.


Thanks mate :D . hoping it performs as well as it looks! got the rear wheel spinning today, albeit the wrong way :(
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Jay64 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:56 am

Great build man. I look forward to seeing it.

Farfle wrote:Thanks mate :D . hoping it performs as well as it looks! got the rear wheel spinning today, albeit the wrong way :(

Just turn the bike around and hammer the throttle. You might need to get some bar end mirrors or something though. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Farfle » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:47 am

Good news :D Battery mounting is done Bad news... :( not posting anymore pics until the race!
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Thud » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:35 am

CHICKEN!

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get some......

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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Farfle » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:09 pm

Thud wrote:CHICKEN!


That's me, maybe one more picture tho...


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The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


Team Farfle blog!! http://www.farfleselectrics.blogspot.com
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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby nicobie » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:22 pm

It that a saw blade you re-purposed as a disc? :shock:

I noticed the old fashioned expansion slots/plugs.
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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Whiplash » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:43 pm

It does look like a diamond blade doesn't it?!!
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Re: Farfle's Race bike

Postby Farfle » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:43 pm

nicobie wrote:It that a saw blade you re-purposed as a disc? :shock:

I noticed the old fashioned expansion slots/plugs.


Very good eye, it is indeed a saw blade, $20 harbor freight cheapo 12" thin kerf blade, bolted on with the sidecover screws.
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


Team Farfle blog!! http://www.farfleselectrics.blogspot.com
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