Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby binlagin » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:56 pm

I'm in for 1 on the first batch please!
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby Kiwi » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:10 pm

I made 2 extras, you can have one. Will work out a price and let you know next week.
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby stevetooke » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:36 pm

I'll take the second spare if it's still available!
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby binlagin » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:09 am

I just ordered another 5AH of batteries to bring my total up to 15AH!

Can't wait to get this thing mounted :D
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby Kiwi » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:24 pm

Got the bill today. So including straps, clamps and the rack its $150US plus $20US for postage, so $170US delivered.
You need to tell me the diameter of your forks so I can choose the right size clamps.

PM me if you dont know my paypal.

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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby binlagin » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:31 am

I will PayPal you the total tonight when I get home from work.

Thanks!
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby Kiwi » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:57 pm

Parts Update, shipping today

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4. GCin DC
5. binlagin
6.moonshine -paid -shipped
7.shorza -paid-shipped
8.Steevetooke -Paid -shipped
9.Duc998 -Paid - shipped
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17. Foolspeed - Paid - shipped
18. Philistine - Paid - shipped
19. Sacko - Paid - Shipped
20. Kiwi (me, one day I will have my bike running!)- not paid!

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Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters 20th Set sold.

Postby Kiwi » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:13 pm

Just sold my 20th Adapter set!

Thanks to everyone who bought one, glad to see axles break before the adapter.

I will make another 20, hope there are still plenty of DH comps kicking about.

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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby gensem » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:42 pm

binlagin im hoping you really know what you doing
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A decent 25mph bike will cost around $1000.
A decent 35mph bike will cost around $2000.
A $1000 35mph bike will get you killed.
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby darkone040 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:32 am

Ive started to attach the dropouts to the frame, they look excellent but i am in need of some advice..

the rear derailleur is giving me some grief trying to get it on, its got the adjusting screw with a tab on one side but then
the derailleur doesn't quite clear the part of the dropouts that hold in the long bolt to secure the axle on the other side
so i have to rest the tab on one side rotate it to where the derailleur clears on the other side and then somehow angle it right
to not cross thread the bolt, and then with my non existent 4th hand i have to screw in the bolt..
any tips on that would be much appreciated..

another thing the brakes were slightly out, not sure if its the magic pie or the dropouts but i had to put washers under the disc to
bring it out a mm so it would sit nicely between the brake pads, probably the magic pie at fault as the bolts i had for the disc brake were
a mm too long and needed washers anyway.. hmm
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby waynebergman » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:24 am

HI Darkone. Its been a while since I put my adapter set on but I do seem to remember its a lot easier to break the chain and feed the chain back through the derailer after the the derailer is fastened in place. Way less twisting and stress on the placement of your derailer before you start the fastening of it. Also you may need to file things down a bit here and there and add washers etc for chain stay spacing and all things in this busy area to work drag and rub free. One thing that worked for me was to place a few stainless hose clamps on my chain stay so the chain did not rub the aluminum chain stay when in 7th gear. The chain still rubs a bit of course but the stainless hose clamp is so low profile and strong that it protects the aluminum chain stay from getting damages. I run 3 stainless hose clamps right next to each other on the right stay to the chain kind of rides on it when in 7th gear. Hope this helps. A little patience at the time of install and a bit of filing here and there goes a long way. These adapters are awesome and so worth the money. Rock solid and they look good too! I have also used these adapters for fitting my trailer Bob Nuts on for pulling the single wheeled BOB trailer.
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby darkone040 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:58 am

cheers for the hints Wayne, i think my chain is one of them 1 use pin chains and i didn't have a new pin for it so i dismantled the rear derailleur
which helped a bit but i still ended up having to get the Dremel out and grinding down the offending part a bit, but its all together and going now yay..

i think a little hint for others out there that might be as dumb as me in putting a bike together..
attach the brake calipers last, from all the pulling the wheel in and out ive managed to bend the disc just a little bit..
but that probably goes for all installs so no fault from these dropouts

i think kiwi has done an amazing job with these and i hope he manages to sell enough for him to want to design more products for the masses here at ES

cheers adrian.
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby Kiwi » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:52 pm

cheers.

I have 10 more sets of adapters being assembled now.
Also have 9 sets of V2 fork lifts available now.
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby Kiwi » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:57 pm

9 Sets of DH Comp /Team adapters ready to go. $185usd Shipped


9 Sets of Fork Lift racks to mount battery packs to triple clamp forks. $160USD shipped.
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby shorza » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:18 am

Looks good Kiwi. What sort of weight can it hold?
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby tricky43 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:52 pm

Hi Kiwi

Please can I have a set of dropout adaptors for my 2003 dh team (135mm dropouts) and a forklift for a set of 2008 Fox 40s (they haven't arrived yet so I can't give you dimensions, should be here tomorrow or Saturday though) please pm me with total cost to Uk and your PayPal details. Many thanks..... Rick
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby Kiwi » Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:05 pm

Dont know how much it will hold, but have been using with 7.5kg battery. But really you dont want more than about 5kg for handling reasons. While I am sure it could support a 20kg child, that was not the intention of the belt.
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby rodgah » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:39 pm

hey Kiwi,

nice idea.....dont know how I missed this thread, much better solution than glue/weld IMHO.

A bit of a hijack, if anyone has any of the older 135mm x 12mm axles and/or rear hub/wheels in Australia they are willing to part with PM me please, not in here dont want to mess up Kiwis thread.

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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby tricky43 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:47 pm

My parts just arrived all present and correct in Stockport UK.

Got a few days left before I have to go back to work so the timing couldn't have been more perfect.

Now I can get in the garage and start putting the bike together, I got a bike workstand to begin the assembly, I doubt its going to able to take the weight of a completed ebike so its going to be like a giant game of Buckaroo adding parts until the workstand collapses :o

Anyway just wanted to post up and say THANKS KIWI YOU DA MAN!!
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby Scott » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:59 pm

Would the Crystalyte 5403 hub motor which is 150mm fit in a 2003 giant dh comp’s 135mm drop outs if you stretch it? Or can it be stretched 15 mm?

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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby Kiwi » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:46 pm

no, unless you ran a single speed and had the shoulder on the axle machined back 15mm.
Or find 150mm swingarm.
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby bose » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:04 am

I got My kiwi adapters on my 135ish swing arm but my cell man Mac did not fit very well. The rim was not centered in the swing arm. Now I need to know what spoke lengths you guys are running for your Mac geared hubs in the kiwi dropouts so that I can rebuild my wheel? Can it be so that my wheel was dished to the wrong side of the motor when I got it? Because it was way out of center..

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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby GCinDC » Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:41 am

bose wrote:Can it be so that my wheel was dished to the wrong side of the motor when I got it?

yes. it's been a cruel lesson for all of us with the 02-04 dh comps/teams. the 05 rear triangle seems to be centered, but the earlier ones are dished so that a centered wheel fits like this:
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because my motor itself was dished the opposite way, i was able to take it apart and flip the stator, so the wheel lined up perfectly, but then it's untrue for some reason because the sidecovers are mounted differently..

brand new motor and wheel after just flipping the stator:


does the mac have a side that is more extruded than the other?
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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby bose » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:18 am

Wish I knew that before I bought the bike :-)

Yeah, the side covers are different. But the wheel was dished from the beginning with one side spokes a little shorter than the other sides. I will try to spoke it up so the dish comes to my favor then have my lbs to true the wheel for me. I have so much money into electric bikes but have not yet ridden any...

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Re: Giant DH Comp Drop Out adapters and conversion

Postby Obiwan007 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:09 pm

On the subject of DH comps, is your new bike an 05 GCinDC? Does anyone know how many years after the 05 until they started sloping the top tube and reducing the triangle space? My next project is going to be a DH comp for sure but I will have the luxury of waiting for just the right donor.
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