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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Hyena » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:55 pm

Timma2500 wrote:The 10s lipos turned up today, sweet! However they did have a surprise in store - each pack had 4 discharge leads! I assumed they would just have two but HK split the packs in two 5s halves, on the pack i tested it arrived with 19.13v / 19.12v. Its no biggy, just means extra wiring i hadn't anticipated.

It's no biggy, just plug them into series and forget about the extra loop of wiring - the only real hassle is extending/joining the 5S balance tap leads. If you're trying to save space inside your frame I'd actually open the top of the shrink wrap and solder a short stub of wire from one 5S +ve to the other 5S -ve to create a permamant 10S pack. HK only does it like this for people who don't have 10S chargers and need to charge the pack in 2 halves on less say 6S chargers

For the wire mod i took the easy way out - took the seal out and just cable tied (zip tied) the wiring to the axle.

That's what I do an have no no issues with it.

Almost couldn't have placed them more perfectly behind the disc spokes if i'd tried! I don't know if this will have any consequence in regards to cooling effectiveness but it sure hides them well! :mrgreen:

Yeah I'm not sure if that's good or bad for cooling but if you want to hide them you've done well :lol:

Ok so i've got a decision to make as to whether i'll bother making the frame to carry 10 or 15ah - 4 or 6 lipo packs. I'll be riding this bike mostly with my girlfriend once i get her Mac build finished. Given she's reasonably new to mountainbiking in general (but picking it up pretty quick), our average speed will prob only be about 25-30kph

The HTs are really efficient at this speed - 10ah pack will get you heaps of range - probably in the order of 40-50km depending on how you ride and the terrain. Given your sweet frame it'd be nice to keep the bike looking as close to stock as possible and not have a triple wide tank section if you can help it. If your GF is also into riding dirt bikes with you (which she is right ?) then it won't be long until she feels the need for speed and 25km/hr on the mac won't cut it :wink:

Thats 65deg at the windings, not the casing hey? If so thats pretty good going, from what i've read about safe winding temps i'd be happy with that!

You'd need good cooling to get 65 on the windings with your planned power. 65 on the side covers is about 90 at the windings - which is hot but still OK. Personally I'm not keen on taking it much over 100 but with drilled side covers that shouldn't be too much of an issue.

I've still got a nice normal mtb but its just not the same without a few kw to help get my speed jollies! :lol:

Damn straight, it's like riding up hill, through thick mud :lol:

sn0wchyld wrote:Riding the other day, after a series of hill climbs and general mucking round with very little pedalling I did get the motor temps to 75 (and yea, the probe is glued to the windings with some thermal cement, so thats winding temps). measured the cooling rate to 55deg, and it was averaging about 1 deg every 10 seconds.

That's really good - it'll last forever at that rate. Time to up the current and push your luck :lol:
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby sn0wchyld » Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:00 am

Hyena wrote:
sn0wchyld wrote:Riding the other day, after a series of hill climbs and general mucking round with very little pedalling I did get the motor temps to 75 (and yea, the probe is glued to the windings with some thermal cement, so thats winding temps). measured the cooling rate to 55deg, and it was averaging about 1 deg every 10 seconds.

That's really good - it'll last forever at that rate. Time to up the current and push your luck :lol:

:twisted: :twisted:
im going to have to see how the 12fet handles things, its not even getting warm at 40a (casing peaking at about +10 ambient, so i figure 50a should be safe enough, and 60 should be fun... :P thinking of upping it to a 15ah pack though.

hey timma i'd meant to ask, are you doing any active cooling? if you are these
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Timma2500 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:47 am

Ok some more progress today:

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The easy part of welding up the box is done, now time for the hard part - welding it to the M3 frame... It aint guna be fun, welding such a thin edge to much thicker sheet is an absolute bastard of a job :roll: 2 runs will be needed with the 2nd run just to tidy it up a little. It still won't look pretty but it will be strong atleast. Plus later on a powdercoat finish will cover any crap looking welds! :wink:

In the side-on pic, the forks are sitting at a more relaxed angle due to no headset bearings installed yet. Head angle is standard M3 - 65deg?
Wheelbase is 1215mm as it sits, it'll pull in to around 1205mm with the headset installed, an increase of about 65mm.


sn0wchyld wrote:The HTs are really efficient at this speed - 10ah pack will get you heaps of range - probably in the order of 40-50km depending on how you ride and the terrain. Given your sweet frame it'd be nice to keep the bike looking as close to stock as possible and not have a triple wide tank section if you can help it. If your GF is also into riding dirt bikes with you (which she is right ?) then it won't be long until she feels the need for speed and 25km/hr on the mac won't cut it

Sweet, if i can use some self control its good to know it can get decent range on 10ah. Yeah Mels got a 250 quad though we haven't been out riding since she hurt herself looping out a pitbike lol. Her 10t Mac on 12s should be good for 40kph so she'll have a little more speed up her sleeve for when she gets confident on it :)

hyena wrote:Almost couldn't have placed them more perfectly behind the disc spokes if i'd tried! I don't know if this will have any consequence in regards to cooling effectiveness but it sure hides them well! Yeah I'm not sure if that's good or bad for cooling but if you want to hide them you've done well

Thats the thing, i didn't even mean to hide them, it was just pure fluke! :lol:

hyena wrote:You'd need good cooling to get 65 on the windings with your planned power. 65 on the side covers is about 90 at the windings - which is hot but still OK. Personally I'm not keen on taking it much over 100 but with drilled side covers that shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Holy crap 100deg is getting up there temp wise, i thought about 80deg winding temp would be their limit?

sn0wchyld wrote:sn0wchyld wrote:Riding the other day, after a series of hill climbs and general mucking round with very little pedalling I did get the motor temps to 75 (and yea, the probe is glued to the windings with some thermal cement, so thats winding temps). measured the cooling rate to 55deg, and it was averaging about 1 deg every 10 seconds.
Hyena wrote: That's really good - it'll last forever at that rate. Time to up the current and push your luck :lol:
As Clint Eastwood once said "Well, are you feeling lucky punk?!"

sn0wchyld wrote: im going to have to see how the 12fet handles things, its not even getting warm at 40a (casing peaking at about +10 ambient, so i figure 50a should be safe enough, and 60 should be fun... thinking of upping it to a 15ah pack though.
Thats the attitude we wanna see! :P

sn0wchyld wrote:hey timma i'd meant to ask, are you doing any active cooling? if you are these http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/290619923173 ... t_743throw allot of air, work off 5v (and 12v, where they throw a HELL of a lot of air, though longevity might be affected) and are about the perfect size. You can pick them up from china sellers for about $9 or so if your not in a rush. im only using 3 in mine, could have fit 5 with a bit of squishing, 6 if I moved the hall wires around etc.

Nah i'm probably just going to see how it goes with just cooling holes for now. If it starts to get too toasty i'll look into fitting some fans. I checked out the ones in your link but i think they've sold out?

sn0wchyld wrote:and I hate to say it, but i told ya so!! ha! should have gone with 24s10ah for a bit more range or speed than 20s10ah, in a smaller package than the extra 5ah on 20s. still, I like the idea of an easy to attach 5 or even 10ah booster pack on the outside of the frame... its exactly what I'm planning on my next build!
Lucky i changed my mind at the last minute before marking out the aluminium for cutting - its 100mm wide to allow for 20s 15ah :mrgreen:
Plus i've got 8 x 6s packs here from my last Specialized / Cyclone build just incase 24s calls my name! I did like the pod idea but didn't like the thought of the extra width it'd add when they were in use...

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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Hyena » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:35 pm

Looking awesome mate. I take it you're on top of your other outstanding projects then :P :wink:

Any reason you didn't fab the whole main frame section from scratch ? Would it have been much extra work to sort out the BB and mounts for the swing arm ?
I guess you'd lose some of the shape details but it'd be one single unit then which would look sweet. You could use a threadless BB shell (ie just a suitable ID piece of Al tube) to make life even easier.
Maybe next time huh ? :)
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby sn0wchyld » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:51 pm

Holy shitballs mate that looks f*ing brilliant! not much different to the stock frame but room for 20s15ah! perfect.


Timma2500 wrote:Ok some more progress today:
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Nah i'm probably just going to see how it goes with just cooling holes for now. If it starts to get too toasty i'll look into fitting some fans. I checked out the ones in your link but i think they've sold out?
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yea the seller sold out, but if you search for the same model # you'll find a few suppliers of that particular fan....
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Timma2500 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:34 pm

Hyena wrote: Looking awesome mate. I take it you're on top of your other outstanding projects then :P :wink:

At the moment you could say that :wink: I'm waiting on the delivery of a new shock and bushes before welding on the bloke's shock mount so i get the position just right. Once thats in place i can weld his headtube in at the correct angle and thats that frame complete and ready for delivery :)


Hyena wrote:Any reason you didn't fab the whole main frame section from scratch ? Would it have been much extra work to sort out the BB and mounts for the swing arm ?I guess you'd lose some of the shape details but it'd be one single unit then which would look sweet. You could use a threadless BB shell (ie just a suitable ID piece of Al tube) to make life even easier. Maybe next time huh ?
In terms of frame production, this one was a slap together.
I didn't want to spend ages working out shock and pivot mount locations and how to incorparate them into the new section of the frame. Plus i wanted to keep it looking semi original. And lastly, keeping the original spine of the frame adds strength to the rear of the frame.
Maybe next time i might go all out though i'm a little over making frames so there won't be many more coming out of my garage - i want less time building and more time riding :wink:


sn0wchyld wrote: Holy shitballs mate that looks f*ing brilliant! not much different to the stock frame but room for 20s15ah! perfect.

Ta mate. Yeah that was my predicament - the only difference between it holding 10ah or 15ah was a matter of 25mm extra width, no extra side-visual size so i figured i'd better go with the original planned size otherwise later down the track if i wanted more range i'd be kicking myself for making it a tiny bit narrower.
Besides 100mm overall width is still pretty narrow as far as ebike frames are concerned so i'm a happy camper :mrgreen:
And in the meantime while i run just 10ah, i've got shitloads of extra space in there to keep a spare tube or what not :wink:


sn0wchyld wrote:yea the seller sold out, but if you search for the same model # you'll find a few suppliers of that particular fan....like so...http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from ... -S4512AM05

Der don't mind me, i didn't even think to search its part #... :roll: :lol:
Cheers dude, i'll definatley look for these if it starts to get worryingly hot. At the moment i'm just dying to ride it so i just want to get it up and running for now! :mrgreen:


I'll strip the bike down again today and make a start on doing the final welding.


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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby miro13car » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:40 pm

very well, you can see with some effort
you don't have to mount your battery to rear seat post.
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Timma2500 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:37 pm

Thankyou miro13car. Nope, the only thing that should be on a seat post is the seat itself! :)


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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby sn0wchyld » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:56 am

I just cant stop drooling over this frame mate. Makes me wish (in a way) that I could drop out of uni and train up my welding skills so I could do my own, except with a mid drive. If you ever get sick of it and decide to sell let me know, I probably wont have the $$ but ill sell the girlfriend if I have to :wink: .

couple o q's... how wide is it and How long till its running? I recon this will end up as one of the most stealth ebikes out there... even more so if you ever decide to use a MAC, assuming you could live with ~2-3kw
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby gtadmin » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:46 am

sn0wchyld wrote:...
but ill sell the girlfriend if I have to :wink: .
...

Oh, could I go to town on this (but I won't :) )

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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Timma2500 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:24 pm

The frame is now fully welded yay :D Turd of a job but it turned out ok all things considered and its well aligned. Its gained about 1.6kg over standard which is less than i figured on so now i'm shooting for 35kg with 10ah and 37.5kg with 15ah onboard. Wheelbase came in at 1204mm. I paint stripped the front half today to tidy it up till it gets powder coated after completion.

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These pics were with four 10s 5ah packs inside, theres oodles of room left for wiring and the last two packs to come later :mrgreen:
Unfortunately this is where the project grinds to a halt for a while, being currently unemployed and no money at all means i have to wait before ordering the last parts to complete the build - 13/14g spokes, freewheel, CA, 18fet controller and throttle :( I've decided to use some Shimano brakes i've got spare for now to save money till i spring for a pair of Saint callipers later.

I can make a start on the torque arms, guna scab some scrap steel off a mate for those.

sn0wchyld wrote:I just cant stop drooling over this frame mate. Makes me wish (in a way) that I could drop out of uni and train up my welding skills so I could do my own, except with a mid drive. If you ever get sick of it and decide to sell let me know, I probably wont have the $$ but ill sell the girlfriend if I have to :wink:.

Nah, just get to know your local welding shop then ask 'em how much if you cut it all and have it ready for welding. A one off frame would cost as much for them to weld as it would for you to do a welding course! I can't see myself selling this one but if i do, i'll send you a pm. I'm sure we could work out a payment method :wink: :lol:

sn0wchyld wrote:couple o q's... how wide is it and How long till its running? I recon this will end up as one of the most stealth ebikes out there... even more so if you ever decide to use a MAC, assuming you could live with ~2-3kw

Its 100mm (4") wide externally, 94mm internal. It won't be running till i find a job, i'm unemployed at the moment and now totally skint...
I originally considered a Mac but i figured i'd eventually kill it's gears or clutch while offroading so thats why i went DD. If this dies, i'll go CroMotor and hang on for dear life lol.

Oh sorry i missed your earlier question regarding regen, i won't be going down that road. I don't think the returns are worth the hassle really.

gtadmin wrote:sn0wchyld wrote:... but ill sell the girlfriend if I have to ....Oh, could I go to town on this (but I won't )Looking good Paul

Go on GT, you know you want to! :wink: Ta mate :)


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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Hyena » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:41 pm

Looking very tidy mate!
Do you know what colour you're going to paint it ? Keeping it white like your others or going with something different ?
Timma2500 wrote:I can't see myself selling this one but if i do, i'll send you a pm. I'm sure we could work out a payment method :wink: :lol:
Dude, you don't even know what his girlfriend looks like! :lol:

If this dies, i'll go CroMotor and hang on for dear life lol.

What ever needs to go on there, Mr Asia will hook you up - I'm hoping to have more options on the way later in the year :wink:

regarding regen, i won't be going down that road. I don't think the returns are worth the hassle really

It's not really a hassle and all you need is good steel torque arms, which it sounds like you're already planning on.
Regen is great for casual braking and generally holding you back on steep sections - like compression braking in a low gear on a motorbike or car. I love it on mine but it's all about the braking rather than the minimal power returns you get to the battery.
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby full-throttle » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:52 pm

Timma2500 wrote:Image
Looks better than the original!

sn0wchyld wrote: but ill sell the girlfriend if I have to :wink:
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Timma2500 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:16 am

Hyena wrote:Looking very tidy mate!Do you know what colour you're going to paint it ? Keeping it white like your others or going with something different ?

Ta mate! Dunno, i quite like the Stealths in black so may go in that direction. Or white. Or red... :?: :lol:

Hyena wrote:Dude, you don't even know what his girlfriend looks like!
Maybe a pending photo ID approval clause should be written into the agreement? :P

Hyena wrote:If this dies, i'll go CroMotor and hang on for dear life lol.What ever needs to go on there, Mr Asia will hook you up - I'm hoping to have more options on the way later in the year
Mr Asia to the rescue! Oh do tell! :wink:

Hyena wrote:It's not really a hassle and all you need is good steel torque arms, which it sounds like you're already planning on. Regen is great for casual braking and generally holding you back on steep sections - like compression braking in a low gear on a motorbike or car. I love it on mine but it's all about the braking rather than the minimal power returns you get to the battery.
It cuts in automatically when you let off the throttle doesn't it? I'd like to be able to coast along off throttle as much as possible so i don't think regen is for me.

full-throttle wrote:Looks better than the original!
Ta full-throttle! I can't wait to get it powder coated.

The next job is to drill some grommet holes for the rear brake line, rear deraileur, battery and throttle leads to pass through the frame.


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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby gtadmin » Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:18 am

Timma2500 wrote:...
Hyena wrote:Dude, you don't even know what his girlfriend looks like!
Maybe a pending photo ID approval clause should be written into the agreement? :P
...
Paul :D

I would think a test ride would be in order ... of the bike of course. You need to check for "saggy" suspension and "loose" chassis amongst other things :P I'm surprised though that another West Aussie hasn't chimed in yet, but the jester is probably nesting.

Stopping now ... (Sorry sc)

Black and red or black and gold looks excellent if you wanted to be more adventurous than white, and if you paint it right you could make some of the big areas disappear, or at least be less prominent. ( :oops: you're getting it powder-coated, oh well)
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby dingoEsride » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:01 am

Those welds look great mate, always top notch, seems you had nothing to worry about, the rest will be a joy to piece together,
I think you should use this frame as a prototype to go into production and get some of your hard work into $, they should sell a like a breeze
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Timma2500 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:57 am

dingoEsride wrote:Those welds look great mate, always top notch, seems you had nothing to worry about, the rest will be a joy to piece together,I think you should use this frame as a prototype to go into production and get some of your hard work into $, they should sell a like a breeze
Cheers Mark. It was the hardest frame to weld so far, it was almost at the point of blowing through many times on both sides but yeah, turned out ok in the end. Nah mate no plans to sell any more now, theres just no money in it eh. Then theres the liability issue i'd like to avoid like the plague... Hey have you ordered your Lipos for your new bike yet? :wink:

gtadmin wrote:I would think a test ride would be in order ... of the bike of course. You need to check for "saggy" suspension and "loose" chassis amongst other things
Haha, I aint going near that statement! :P

gtadmin wrote:Black and red or black and gold looks excellent if you wanted to be more adventurous than white, and if you paint it right you could make some of the big areas disappear, or at least be less prominent. ( :oops: you're getting it powder-coated, oh well)

Yeah it'll be powdercoated like the last one but what colour i'm just not sure yet! No doubt i'll decide at the last moment at the powder coaters like last time lol.

In other news, my girlfriend and i did an 800km (round trip) road trip down to Albany today to pickup her ebike to be - a 2002 (i think) Specialized Big Hit Comp we found for a good price. The Marzocchi Dirt Jumper II forks will need rebuilding and the rear shock needs replacing (I've got a spare Fox Vanilla R) but apart from that its ok. I don't know what brand the brakes are (Dice?) but the discs are nice Braking brand items which are big in dirt bike circles for their oversize brake kits.

The frame will be chopped and in a first for me, i'll be shortening the wheelbase instead of normally lengthening them! She's only short so i need to shorten the top tube length by about 25mm which isn't much. It was interesting to see the guy who owned it previously had made his own floating brake calliper assembly for the rear suspension to help with brake jack. I've never seen one retro-fitted before, he did well and i'm sure it did the job however it won't be staying on the bike, too much of a pita to incorporate with a hub motor imo.

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I'll start a separate build thread for this one when the time comes to start operating on it.
If my girlfriend's hints are anything to go by, i'd say it'll be sooner than later! :lol:


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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby dingoEsride » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:32 am

Timma2500 wrote:Cheers Mark. It was the hardest frame to weld so far, it was almost at the point of blowing through many times on both sides but yeah, turned out ok in the end. Nah mate no plans to sell any more now, theres just no money in it eh. Then theres the liability issue i'd like to avoid like the plague... Hey have you ordered your Lipos for your new bike yet? :wink:


I know that feeling well but usually on roof racks or construction welds that don't need to look too pretty, a little more weld then a grinder is usually my way,
should be getting lipo's soon just needed to get some outstanding bills out the way,
btw that new specy looks nice
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Timma2500 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:54 am

dingoEsride wrote:I know that feeling well but usually on roof racks or construction welds that don't need to look too pretty, a little more weld then a grinder is usually my way,
Yeah with construction as long as its strong they don't tend to worry as much i guess.

dingoEsride wrote:should be getting lipo's soon just needed to get some outstanding bills out the way,

Beer doesn't count as outstanding bills! :P Just remember to get the long packs, 20c discharge should be enough.

dingoEsride wrote:btw that new specy looks nice
Ta mate, my other half is stoked and on my case already to get it finished lol.


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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby dingoEsride » Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:59 am

Timma2500 wrote:Beer doesn't count as outstanding bills! :P


Ha Ha! yeah without it I'd be rich or a lot wealthier, but with this heatwave we're having its a nice luxury, thats why I have battery powered bikes is to help with carting cartons,
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Timma2500 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:25 pm

dingoEsride wrote:Ha Ha! yeah without it I'd be rich or a lot wealthier, but with this heatwave we're having its a nice luxury, thats why I have battery powered bikes is to help with carting cartons.
Yeeees, keeping our cool during these heat waves ends up costing a fortune! Your lucky you drink beer, i'm a bundy drinker @ $20 a 6 pack... :roll:
Sounds like you need a bike trailer, you could fit multiple cartons in the one trip :wink:
Speaking of heatwaves, yesterday was a stinker - 41deg c! They had 4 fire fighting helicopters taking water out of the Champion Lake to fight the Gosnells and another fire yesterday arvo:
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The top one was less than 20m away and cooled us and the dog down nicely with it's spray :) We think that pilot was showing off to the crowd a bit, during a few water pickups he had the chopper's wheels just touching the water surface - no room for error at that height... 8)


I've made some progress with the bike, its now altogether and ridable (pedaling only). As it sits now ready to pedal, it weighs 22kg. After some rough calcs i'm still in the ball park for a final figure of 35.5 - 36kg with 10ah.
I'll be happy with that considering its 200mm/241mm suspension, 203mm brakes and 4kw of hubby.
I'm not too concerned with over exerting the HT as i've decided to get a CroMotor when money allows. It will sit around untill the HT dies or the want for more power gets the better of me, whichever comes first :wink: Then i'd be looking for around 7 - 9kw @20s to make it worthwhile.

Anyhow, a few pics of the bike ready to do some trail rides this weekend down at Nannup with my girlfriend:

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Oh I might have a job lined up starting this Wednesday so that means money coming in again to get this up n running - yeah baby!


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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby deecanio » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:32 pm

Another corker 8)

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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Tinto » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:23 am

It looks fantastic!
I can't imagine this is the easiest bike to pedal up a trail.
Down on the other hand...

No more shuttle required :)
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Whiplash » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:30 pm

UGH, once again I am in need of my TIG!!!! Love the build ONE DAY ILL DO IT TOO!!!! :lol:
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Re: Intense M3 + Clyte HT3525

Postby Timma2500 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:23 pm

Cheers guys.

Tinto wrote:I can't imagine this is the easiest bike to pedal up a trail. Down on the other hand...No more shuttle required :)

Up hills - hell no! :lol: Dowhills - hell yeah! :) I'm pretty sure she wants to do another one of those Heritage Railway Trails so i'm assuming it'd be reasonably flat like the one up at Kalamunda. Where abouts in Perth are you Tinto?

Whiplash wrote:UGH, once again I am in need of my TIG!!!! Love the build ONE DAY ILL DO IT TOO!!!!

Pull your finger out and get a TIG Whip!!! :lol: I'd love to see what awsome creations you could come up with with a TIG torch in your hands!
Your mid hub drive is looking great by the way, have you managed to finish off the last few bits and pieces yet?


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