eCars - Compared!

[www.recumbents.com]

That's a great list, thanks for compiling it. One of the largest issue I see with e-cars right now is availability. Can you add two things to your list?

1) When the vehicle will be available for sale
2) Where the vehicle will be available for sale

Right now almost all of these are restricted to the left and right coasts of the USA, with a gaping availability hole in the middle.

-Warren.

[Jeremy Harris]

Right now almost all of these are restricted to the left and right coasts of the USA, with a gaping availability hole in the middle.

-Warren.

Not to mention all the other countries in the World....................

Jeremy

[DrkAngel]

Coming at ya!

The Top 14 Electric Cars from the Paris Motor Show

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/alternative-fuel/electric/electric-cars-at-paris-motor-show

Lots of exotic lookin' cars, but a few basic transport.

[DrkAngel]

10 Cars That Will Define the Electric Market-By Being First

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/alternative-fuel/electric/first-10-ev-roundup

Contains info on expected availability, price, etc.

[DrkAngel]

2010 Models!
The Consumer Guide to 2010 Electric Cars
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2010-electric-car-buying-guide1.htm

[DrkAngel]

28 eCars ... with anticipated price and availability.


http://www.plugincars.com/cars

Article has nice links to pictures, comments and more!

[DrkAngel]

Porsche 918 Spyder plug-in hybrid concept gets 78 mpg, hits 62 mph in 3.2 seconds

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/01/porsche-918-spyder-plug-in-hybrid-concept-gets-78-mpg-hits-62-m/

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[Hillhater]

.. Very nice , however there are a few grey areas ( apart from the availability and price )..

...the concept can theoretically reach 62 mph in 3.2 seconds and nip 198 mph on the high end.
....On the flip side, Porsche says it can also achieve 78 miles per gallon and emit just 70 grams of CO2 per kilometer.
.... and the car can reportedly last up to 16 miles on electrons alone.

If they ever make one to sell, i doubt it will be under $1m.

[DrkAngel]

Top 10 Electric Car Makers for 2010 and 2011

http://www.cleanfleetreport.com/clean-fleet-articles/top-electric-cars-2010/

Electric Cars Lead New Models in 2011

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/Electric-Cars-Lead-New-Models-in-2011---112627444.html

[DrkAngel]

Gasoline prices have increased 15-20% in the last year, (US).

Forecasters, with the best records estimate the price to rise between 15-35% this year!

Others, fear as high as an 85% increase, based on a recovering economy. They predict that any increase of economic growth will force up the price of oil, which will force down the economic growth!

Oil dependency, looks to have a stranglehold on the throat of the world!

[DrkAngel]

Ford Unveils Focus Electric, Claims Better Driving Dynamics Than Other Electric Cars

http://www.plugincars.com/ford-unveils-focus-electric-claims-better-driving-dynamics-other-electric-cars.html

[x88x]

Nice, sounds promising. Finally we have multiple big-name vendors competing in the EV space again! I like the new, more powerful charger, and love the interface, but one thing does worry me...

In a related announcement Ford also announced today that Best Buy will sell the charging stations for the Focus Electric, and then install them using the Geek Squad—all for around $1,499.

...soo...basically it's going to cost twice as much as it should and be installed by people who don't know wtf they're doing half the time... I wonder if they'll sell them through any other vendors and if not how hard it will be to convince Best Buy to sell one without the installation...and how much that would knock off the cost (I'm guessing a few hundred). I mean, come on, how hard can it be to install? ...unless Ford was deliberately obtuse when they designed it and didn't just put a 220V plug on it...

[DrkAngel]

Home page for the Ford Focus

http://www.ford.com/electric/focuselectric/2012/?searchid=426441|28125566|205373347

[www.recumbents.com]

I hear that the Focus will be available in the Midwest, and that the Volt will come to the Midwest in 2013!

[Hillhater]

anyone else notice the similarities between the Focus front end and an Aston Martin ?

[TylerDurden]

anyone else notice the similarities between the Focus front end and an Aston Martin ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Automotive_Group

[DrkAngel]

Great resource page for comparison of all available EVs.
Multiple points of view helps give a more "complete picture".

http://www.allcarselectric.com/

[DrkAngel]

First the bad news - Many experts project gasoline prices to reach $4.50/gal by mid-Summer.
The good news - electric prices projected to remain stable. (USA)

[Hillhater]

- electric prices projected to remain stable..

not for everyone ! ..
Electric retail prices in Australia are pretty much certain to double in the next year or two

[DrkAngel]

First the bad news - Many experts project gasoline prices to reach $4.50/gal by mid-Summer.
Up from $3/gal in December, for a 50% increase in 7 months.
The good news - electric prices projected to remain stable. (USA)

So ... Electric Vehicles, charged at "off peak" rates, previously rated at, 300 eMPG will be attaining 450 eMPG.
450 miles on electric, that costs the same as 1 gallon of gasoline!

equivalent, or, evaluative, or, electric - MPG = 450!

eMPG = electric to gas equivalent, fuel cost, based on 30mpg gas vehicle vs Electric Vehicle.

[Arlo1]

Good thread

[Arlo1]

First the bad news - Many experts project gasoline prices to reach $4.50/gal by mid-Summer.
The good news - electric prices projected to remain stable. (USA)

Not for us here In British Columbia Canada. B.C. Hydro anounced a couple weeks ago they are raising their rates 50% in the next 5 years.
I am not to afraid because I can make my own electricity but it stil will suck for almost everyone else.

[DrkAngel]

First the bad news - Many experts project gasoline prices to reach $4.50/gal by mid-Summer.
The good news - electric prices projected to remain stable. (USA)

Not for us here In British Columbia Canada. B.C. Hydro anounced a couple weeks ago they are raising their rates 50% in the next 5 years.
I am not to afraid because I can make my own electricity but it stil will suck for almost everyone else.

That's odd!

I point out that gas prices are projected to increase 50% in the 6 next months ...

And you whine about electric increasing 50% in the next 5 years ... ?

[Arlo1]

First the bad news - Many experts project gasoline prices to reach $4.50/gal by mid-Summer.
The good news - electric prices projected to remain stable. (USA)

Not for us here In British Columbia Canada. B.C. Hydro anounced a couple weeks ago they are raising their rates 50% in the next 5 years.
I am not to afraid because I can make my own electricity but it stil will suck for almost everyone else.

That's odd!

I point out that gas prices are projected to increase 50% in the 6 next months ...

And you whine about electric increasing 50% in the next 5 years ... ?

You also pointed out electric prices to remane stable. Lol

[theRealFury]

First the bad news - Many experts project gasoline prices to reach $4.50/gal by mid-Summer.
The good news - electric prices projected to remain stable. (USA)

I feel sorry for myself and every other person from the UK. TODAY the prices i would have to pay at todays currency conversion rates are as below.

1 gallon of Gas - $9.32
1 kwh electricicty - $0.27

Im beginning to wish i lived in America. Luckily for me i dont drive a car... my olny mode of transport is an Ebike and the only fuel i use in my home is Electricity (and i have my own small solar installation which reduces that somewhat) so im relatively unscathed by this... 99% of the UK population dont get off as luckily as me.