What IFs: need some questions answered

leoleaf

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Hi all, I have an electric scooter. 48v 400w. Current top speed is 28kph.

I wanted to know if its possible to get a 52v controller, keep the same 48v battery and get a 52v 600w motor. My goal is to increase top speed by maybe 5-7kph and also torque.
I understand the battery might be the bottleneck, but what are the chances of anything overheating?

For others who are curious, I have the Inokim Quick 3, and the parts I am replacing the above with are Dualtron I controller, motor and LCD throttle.

Any advise would help.
Thanks in advance.
 
Any and all questions, concerns or advises are greatly appreciated, especially when it comes to controller to battery compatibility issues. Really just looking for even a small push in the right direction.
 
28kph seems fast for a 400w scooter. You sure about these numbers?

Assuming you could get a 52v motor, that's less than a 10% increase, so it would be less than 10% faster, right?

I want to know way more about what you're trying to upgrade to really say anything, probably exactly what so many are thinking. I'd guess the 35kph you're taking about, maybe 22mph, should definitely be beyond reach of that motor and controller.

So I assume one of these motors will bolt right in, but then you might have something different.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unite-1000W-48V-Electric-Motor-Go-karts-Bike-MY1020-w-Mounting-Bracket-11-Teeth/262307475374?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3D7c942014c9cc45c3ad160a859efe9559%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D190939008152&autorefresh=true

http://www.ebay.com/itm/48-Volt-1000-Watt-Electric-Motor-MY1020-48V-1000W-/190939008152?hash=item2c74da0c98:g:b7sAAOxyOypSZYN1&vxp=mtr

Then maybe a controller. http://www.ebay.com/itm/48V-1000W-Electric-Bicycle-E-bike-Scooter-Brush-DC-Motor-Speed-Controller/262683421839?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D2220072%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3Df81c864e0f714367ad098d65589a2e50%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D151952070973

Of course you might have something that won't take any of that, I have no way of knowing. But I'd say you get the general idea of what you should be looking for.
 
Well technically I get 30kmh top speed easily.
The Motor you suggested is not a hub direct drive hub motor so without physical modifications to the scooter, it will not fit.

This is my scooter currently:
https://www.falconpev.com.sg/products/inokim-quick-3-e-scooter?variant=25671708230

And I am getting parts I am getting are the following:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Con...lgo_pvid=e8a177e9-c0ad-4c44-ba77-0a4fc265a346

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Spe...lgo_pvid=f45c90bb-cf4a-47b0-9a42-58071134b748

Based on everyone's suggestions I am working on creating my own 52v Li-on battery for the scooter.
 
Now we're getting somewhere, you never said hub motor, you just said motor. Since the basic one is called 36v, I'd assume you have the 'Super' version for 48v. I doubt 400w at that voltage because they underreport to import. It's entirely possible this new hub that says "The motor is only for the repairing of Dualtron high speed version" might be no more powerful than the one you're replacing. You're assuming it's perfectly compatible with the different name, you could be right but that's not a certainty. got any info to confirm it?

Perhaps before you spend the money on replacements when you don't know how powerful the original is you might try just running a bigger battery on what you have and see if that makes you happy. Go 60v, which theoretically will add maybe more than 15% to the unloaded rpm and see. It would be a shame for you to spend over $200 and wind up with the exact same thing.
 
Thank you for your input and you might be right. But it will be tricky to get a bigger battery to mount it externally on my scooter. Esthetically and ideally i would want a larger battery to be housed in the current frame. FYI I have considered all of what you mentioned. I know that most motors are under rated and after measuring the peak wattage it still under performs dualtron motors which are currently rated at 3000 peak wattage.

Again thank you for your input and at this point it seems like the cost effectiveness is quite steep. Best alternative would be to return my Inokim, get my money back and get a dualtron and mod that baby :)
 
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