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New Tesla Roadster amazing 1.9 seconds 0-60 and semi 5 seconds 0-60!

Post by MitchJi » Nov 18, 2017 2:49 pm

Hi,

I assume that most of you have already heard about the new Tesla Roadster, but you might not have seen any of the videos by people getting rides. This video by the creator of dragtimes gives an excellent idea the experience.

https://youtu.be/izhYXO9wKz0

Some specs:
0-100 4.2 seconds
Quarter mile 8.9 seconds
Top speed over 250 mph
Wheel torque 10,000 Nm
Three motor (two rear one front) AWD
Range 620 miles
Pack size 200 kWh
Price $200k

More information here:
https://www.tesla.com/roadster/

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Best Wishes!

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The cells are rated conservatively by GM at 7.8C, Yabert's tests of Volt packs on the DiyEv car forum suggest a higher C rate, 15+ C!.

$1,400 plus $360 freight. Still over $1k less than new lead!

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Post by markz » Nov 18, 2017 6:22 pm

Heard of this on the TV news, though along with the 1.9s car they showed the sleek over the road big rigs that only required 30 minute charge time and can go 800 miles. 220V and how many amps, who knows. Would love to see the battery pack for both!

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Post by st35326 » Nov 18, 2017 9:00 pm

That semi is a game changer.

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Post by markz » Nov 19, 2017 12:17 am

Walmart decided to test some.

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Post by okashira » Nov 19, 2017 3:03 am

200kwh in the roadster gets huge omgwtfbbq from me.

Woulda been cool if they went with 140kwh and higher power cells and took off 200lb weight
But I guess they wanna use all the same cells model 3 and roadster and model s.
200kwh is just over kill lol
Even with the high density cells the pack on the roadster must be redicolouss. 2100lb at least.
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Post by MitchJi » Nov 19, 2017 2:25 pm

markz wrote:
Nov 18, 2017 6:22 pm
Heard of this on the TV news, though along with the 1.9s car they showed the sleek over the road big rigs that only required 30 minute charge time and can go 800 miles. 220V and how many amps, who knows. Would love to see the battery pack for both!
It’s actually a 500 mile range, the chargers are proprietary and called megachargers. They will all be solar powered connected to powerpacks. When run in convoy mode (three trucks with one driver) they will be cheaper than trains. The complete reveal video is here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8ToNr6p6o
The site is here:
https://www.tesla.com/semi/

Two more things, the semi without a load does zero to sixty in five seconds flat. That’s faster than the single motor M3. It also will fully loaded go up a hill at 65 mph, compared to a diesel truck at 45 mph.
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The best quality batteries and lowest priced batteries for DIY EV's are tier 1 OEM Quality Cells from salvaged (wrecked) EV packs. Two examples are Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf packs.

Nissan Leaf Module specs are here
Chevy Volt Pack Info - Salvage 16kwh Packs Under $2k here
The cells are rated conservatively by GM at 7.8C, Yabert's tests of Volt packs on the DiyEv car forum suggest a higher C rate, 15+ C!.

$1,400 plus $360 freight. Still over $1k less than new lead!

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Post by MitchJi » Nov 19, 2017 5:50 pm

A gas car fan gets converted to electric, planning to buy a Tesla Roadster:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I2PFKbXU3Ig
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The best quality batteries and lowest priced batteries for DIY EV's are tier 1 OEM Quality Cells from salvaged (wrecked) EV packs. Two examples are Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf packs.

Nissan Leaf Module specs are here
Chevy Volt Pack Info - Salvage 16kwh Packs Under $2k here
The cells are rated conservatively by GM at 7.8C, Yabert's tests of Volt packs on the DiyEv car forum suggest a higher C rate, 15+ C!.

$1,400 plus $360 freight. Still over $1k less than new lead!

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Post by markz » Nov 19, 2017 6:51 pm

If he can pull this off on a large scale, its a game changer.

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Post by Cephalotus » Nov 20, 2017 5:29 am

If Tesla isn't able to earn money with model 3 in 2018 I'm not sure if we will see more Tesla models on the road in 2019ff...

If you can't make money with a model 3 class car you can not make money with trucks plus a new charging network.

So I assume we all will be wiser end of next year...

The Roadster 2 seems to be an intersting concept. At least we would be able to drive such a car at 300km/h+ on the Autobahn over here...

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Post by Punx0r » Nov 20, 2017 6:18 am

okashira wrote:
Nov 19, 2017 3:03 am
200kwh in the roadster gets huge omgwtfbbq from me.

Woulda been cool if they went with 140kwh and higher power cells and took off 200lb weight
But I guess they wanna use all the same cells model 3 and roadster and model s.
200kwh is just over kill lol
Even with the high density cells the pack on the roadster must be redicolouss. 2100lb at least.
I get the impression they're expecting cell energy density to have greatly improved by the time this car comes about.

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Post by MitchJi » Nov 20, 2017 1:36 pm

Elon tweeted the following about the Roadster:

@elonmusk
Should clarify that this is the base model performance. There will be a special option package that takes it to the next level.
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The best quality batteries and lowest priced batteries for DIY EV's are tier 1 OEM Quality Cells from salvaged (wrecked) EV packs. Two examples are Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf packs.

Nissan Leaf Module specs are here
Chevy Volt Pack Info - Salvage 16kwh Packs Under $2k here
The cells are rated conservatively by GM at 7.8C, Yabert's tests of Volt packs on the DiyEv car forum suggest a higher C rate, 15+ C!.

$1,400 plus $360 freight. Still over $1k less than new lead!

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Post by MitchJi » Nov 20, 2017 1:45 pm

Cephalotus wrote:
Nov 20, 2017 5:29 am
If Tesla isn't able to earn money with model 3 in 2018 I'm not sure if we will see more Tesla models on the road in 2019ff...

If you can't make money with a model 3 class car you can not make money with trucks plus a new charging network.

So I assume we all will be wiser end of next year.
Ron Baron (an eminent investor said on an interview on CNBC that anyone who believes that Tesla won’t be able to produce the M3’s in quantity at a profit is insane.

I agree with him. Why would you even think for a second that they won’t be able to do that? Reading FUD or alternative fact articles? You need to work on increasing your discrimination.
Best Wishes!

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The best quality batteries and lowest priced batteries for DIY EV's are tier 1 OEM Quality Cells from salvaged (wrecked) EV packs. Two examples are Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf packs.

Nissan Leaf Module specs are here
Chevy Volt Pack Info - Salvage 16kwh Packs Under $2k here
The cells are rated conservatively by GM at 7.8C, Yabert's tests of Volt packs on the DiyEv car forum suggest a higher C rate, 15+ C!.

$1,400 plus $360 freight. Still over $1k less than new lead!

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Post by billvon » Nov 20, 2017 2:29 pm

Cephalotus wrote:
Nov 20, 2017 5:29 am
If Tesla isn't able to earn money with model 3 in 2018 I'm not sure if we will see more Tesla models on the road in 2019.
I think the opposite.

They can make money selling model X's and S's at $85K a pop. At that price assembly can be largely manual and they still make money - and there is still a big demand for these cars. On the other hand, they may not be able to make money selling model 3's at $35K a pop. That is a difficult price to profit at even with full automation.
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Post by Cephalotus » Nov 20, 2017 2:38 pm

MitchJi wrote:
Nov 20, 2017 1:45 pm

Ron Baron (an eminent investor said...
Investors seem to believe in the Tesla story at least until now, otherwise they wouldn't invest billions that Musk is burning day by day.

On the other hand Tesla needs to pay 6%/a in interest which is quite high and would indicate a higher risc investment.

During last quarter Tesla burned 20.000 USD for every vehicle they sold, but mass production of model 3 didn't start yet. Maybe they will get into positive numbers in 2018, but so far it has always been "next year". This will not go on forever, especially when other sources for income like zero emission certificates are gone.

I have no inside view into Tesla, so I'm just a bit curious, but Tesla isn't a religion for me either.

I'm not a believer in their proprietary charging network either. I don't have the numbers for other countries but in Germany they are losing the race against CCS quickly, which offers much better options for the future (up to 500kW)

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I doubt that we will ever see a Tesla Megacharger system in Germany.

Of course we are not the most important market i the world, on the other hand where to drive a Tesla Roadster II at 300km/h+ if not on the German Autobahn?

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Post by Punx0r » Nov 21, 2017 3:41 am

Does anyone know what tyres the new roadster expected acceleration times will be based on? It seems like they're stretching the traction limits for road-legal rubber?

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Post by liveforphysics » Nov 22, 2017 1:23 am

Fastest DOT legal drag radial car runs 5.90s at 275mph.

Fastest 275 width (10.5inches) DOT radial record was just recently set at 6.49 and 200+mph. Many sportscars already come stock with 275width rear tires, and no reason the Tesla would be limited to only 275 width, though it's certainly more than adequate for 8.90s and 1.6s 0-60mph. It does add drag at speed to be wider, so they may be more narrow and it just uses traction control and chassis tuning to get the times. If a stock tire p100d simply continued to pull as hard as it does from 0-30mph all the way through the quarter mile it would be an 8second car already.

So excited to drive one and buy one when available if I haven't already built something faster.

Tesla is the only auto mfg I see with a future at the moment. Since before the original roadster shipped, the media experts have been explaining to us how Tesla and SpaceX both are just about to fail, all the way through the model S and X becoming the most common luxury car I see in California and SpaceX successfully launching and landing and reusing rockets many times now.
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Post by Punx0r » Nov 22, 2017 5:47 pm

liveforphysics wrote:
Nov 22, 2017 1:23 am
Fastest DOT legal drag radial car runs 5.90s at 275mph.

If a stock tire p100d simply continued to pull as hard as it does from 0-30mph all the way through the quarter mile it would be an 8second car already.
Wow, I didn't realise the Model S rubber still had so much give. Those road legal drag tyres are very impressive, but I think road car drivers are going to expect at least >5000 miles from a pair of boots with normalish driving :)

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Post by Hillhater » Nov 22, 2017 8:47 pm

Punx0r wrote:
Nov 22, 2017 5:47 pm
........Those road legal drag tyres are very impressive, but I think road car drivers are going to expect at least >5000 miles from a pair of boots with normalish driving :)
Tyre life is pretty much a function of the driving style .
I knew a guy who drove a standard small family car (<100bhp), who would trash a set of tyres in less tha 100 miles of road driving !...most people would get 30,000+ miles from the same tyres.
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Post by Buk___ » Nov 23, 2017 12:20 am

He calls that ludicrous. This is ludicrous!

A 1MW car!

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Post by markz » Dec 03, 2017 9:40 pm

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He calls that ludicrous. This is ludicrous!

A 1MW car!
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Post by MitchJi » Dec 09, 2017 6:58 pm

Cephalotus wrote:
Nov 20, 2017 2:38 pm

Ron Baron (an eminent investor said...

Investors seem to believe in the Tesla story at least until now, otherwise they wouldn't invest billions that Musk is burning day by day.

TSLA is not burning money! They are investing money in superchargers, stores, two Gigafactories (now- more on the way), service centers etc. We used to hear the same story about Amazon. How did that turn out?

I'm not a believer in their proprietary charging network either. I don't have the numbers for other countries but in Germany they are losing the race against CCS quickly, which offers much better options for the future (up to 500kW.

I doubt that we will ever see a Tesla Megacharger system in Germany.
Can‘t you see the contradiction?!

Of course they will install Megachargers in Germany. Why in the world would you believe that they won’t?
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The best quality batteries and lowest priced batteries for DIY EV's are tier 1 OEM Quality Cells from salvaged (wrecked) EV packs. Two examples are Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf packs.

Nissan Leaf Module specs are here
Chevy Volt Pack Info - Salvage 16kwh Packs Under $2k here
The cells are rated conservatively by GM at 7.8C, Yabert's tests of Volt packs on the DiyEv car forum suggest a higher C rate, 15+ C!.

$1,400 plus $360 freight. Still over $1k less than new lead!

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