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QS 500W-10kW Electric Spoke Hub Motor

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QS 500W-10kW BLDC In-Wheel Hub Motor Catalog /Manufacture on ES
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65972
QS Electric Hub Motor Catalogue (on dropbox)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x5g40orivakitfb/QS%20Motor%20Catalog%202015.3.17.pdf?dl=0
QS Motor & Kits Manuals
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l415ah68i4pm8dy/QS%20Motor%20%26%20Kits%20Manuals%202015.04.11.pdf?dl=0
For more information (Video, drawing), please refer to below link on Alibaba.
http://tzquanshun.en.alibaba.com/custom_page_2/Support.html

Economy & Efficient
High Efficiency (85%-92%), low loss on electricity transform. Support Normal type/V1, Export type/V2 and Extra type/V3 electric motor for different market.
Professional
MANUFACTURER of high quality Electric Bike/Scooter/Motorcycle/Tricycle/Car Hub in-wheel motor (CE approved) with competitive price for 10 years!
Ranging 350W~12kW, 48V~144V, 30KPH~150KPH, with the customers of Terra Motors, Current Motor, Lightning Motorcycles, etc.
Quality
Good Quality Control. Choose good raw materials from the beginning to the end. All the motor are inspected before delivery.
Long working life(3-5 years), High Efficiency (85-92%), repair rate less than 1%.
Service
Welltrained sales and engineers provide you with professional solutions & after sale issues. CAD Drawing & Test Report are available.
Support OEM/ODM and open mold. Main parameters could be customized, e.g., RPM/kV, dimension of axle/shaft, PCD & CB, customized Logo.

☆ Motor Spec(e.g.)
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For more information, please rerefer to attachement "QS 500W-10kW Spoke Motor Quotation & SPEC.pdf".

☆ Motor Configuration
1.Three phase wire, 36 spokes holes*4.2mm or 3.4mm diameter
4.2mm hole suit 8G/9G/10G spoke.
3.4mm hole suit 12G/13G/14G spoke.
2. Enameled wire for motor, use high-grade performance copper wire, a material which more stable in high temperatureand big current condition.
3. V1 type: One hall sets
V2/V3 type: Two hall(one for spare), Waterproof Connectors
4. Disc brake (PCD6*44mm, PCD3*80mm)

☆ Speed Suggestion
V=0.9*RPM*2πr*60/1000
V (KPH), RPM=un-load RPM, r=radius of tire
As Power=2π*Torque*rpm/60=Torque*RPM/9.549, the more RPM is, the less torque will be.
P.S.: The kV/RPM could be customized due to your requirement.
Here is winding of 3kW 205 V3 for reference.
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☆ Controller Suggestion
The power of controller ≥power motor.
E.g.
For 205 3000w motor(rated speed 30-80km/h), you could choose 50-80a(limited current) controller.
If for overvoltage using, the current can be improved to 150a(for 30s).
P.S.: The motor might get easily damaged in high output for long time.

When you using overvoltage & Current, then the max. speed * Torque increased sharply, the real power is not yet 3000w.
The higher speed get for motor(overvoltage condition), the bigger limited current should choose for matched controller,
when considering the starting acceleration capability and climbing performance.
If you don’t how to match with controller, please don’t hesitate to contact with me. We could also provide the matched controller.
You could choose Square Wave Kelly Controller KEB72601X,
or Sine wave Sabvoton Controller SVMC072100/72150 & Lingbo Controller .

☆ Motor Design of inner configuration
There are three types,
Normal/V1 type (low cost), Export/V2 type (Cost-effective) and Extra/V3 type (Best Performance).

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1. Comparison between V1 and V2.
Holder: Iron(V1), Aluminum (V2)
Hall: One hall with Normal connector(V1), Two halls with Waterproof connector(V2)
Stator: V2 have a stronger configuration, more cooper, thicker section surface, energy saving in usage.
Magnetic Steel Grade: V2 ≥ V1
Efficiency:  84~87%(V1) 86~88%(V2)
In short, normal type is standard configuration, while export type is high configuration.
The price differs because of the cost of raw materials.

2. Comparison between V2 and V3.
The raw materials are alike, main difference in inner construction.
For V3 (16 Pole Pairs):  stronger configuration than V2, wider lamination,
more cooper wire/phase wire and thicker Cross-sectional area section, 
bear more current in usage.
Magentic Steel: V3 is wider and thicker. 
Efficiency:  86~88%(V2) 88~92%(V3)
Thus, V3 have best performance.

☆ Motor Design of appearance
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☆ Performance Curve/Test Report
Please rerefer to attachement "QS 500W-10kW Spoke Motor Quotation & SPEC.pdf".

☆ Drawing
Attached drawing "QS 205 Spoke Motor New Side Cover Drawing.pdf".
Attached drawing "QS 205 E-Bike Spoke Motor 150mm Drop-outs PCD6X44 Drawing .pdf".
Attached drawing "QS 273 E-Bike Spoke Motor 150mm Drop-outs Drawing .bak.pdf".

For the price
Item(e.g.): QS 3000W 205 (50H) E-bike hub motor extra/V3 type,
FOB Ningbo/Shanghai, USD 279.8/piece (base on samples)
Description:
1. BLDC Permanent Magnet Outer Rotor Spoke Hub Motor
2. Power: 50mm magnet height, 16 pole paris, 3000W rated, 3932W Peak.
36 spoke holes*4.2mm or 3.4mm (optional)
3. Speed: 30-80km/h (to be determined) in 48~72V , generally 650RPM in 72V, Winding 24*5 Turn, Torque: Depends on the speed
4. Designed to match with E-bike Disc brakes PCD6*44mm (not include Brake Disc),
drop-outs/Rear Bridge Clamping Width (150mm)
5. Two Halls(One for spare, in case of damage) , 10mm² Phase wire
6. Thermic Probe: KTY 83/122
7. Support regenerative braking & Reverse function
8. Waterproof grade: IP54
9. Efficiency: 89.8%
10. Stronger configuration--high grade magnet, more cooper, bear more Ampere.
11. 10mm or 12mm Axle flats , generally 10mm
12. Color: White or Black
Package: Carton Ctn size: 34cm*34cm*33cm GW/NW: 14.0kg/12.8kg
MOQ: 1 pc for sample, 10 pc for mass production
Payment terims: T/T, Money Gram,Western Union 100% in advance (for sample)
Valid time: 30 days
Producing Time: 12-15 workings days after receiving the payment.
For more information, please rerefer to attachement "QS 500W-10kW Spoke Motor Quotation & SPEC.pdf".

If any question, please free feel to contact with us.
vito@tzquanshun.com
 

Attachments

  • QS 205 Spoke Motor New Side Cover Drawing.pdf
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  • QS 205 E-Bike Spoke Motor 150mm Drop-outs PCD6X44 Drawing .pdf
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  • QS 273 E-Bike Spoke Motor 150mm Drop-outs Drawing .bak.pdf
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  • QS 500W-10kW Spoke Motor Quotation & SPEC.pdf
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LeonardoJanus said:
Who repair your motor in Germany?

Thank you for your question.
We don't have dealer in Germany. Generally, the hall might be broken.
could you check the problem following attached manual "QS Motor & Kits Manuals 2015.04.11.pdf"?
If the hall damaged, we might delivery some hall sensor for aftersales issues and advise how to change hall.

For more information, please check with sales of the motor. Thank you!

Best Regards
 

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mvly said:
Any good 3000KW+ motor in 135mm dropout?
Do you mean 3000W?
If yes, it's not possible to make 3000W motor in 135mm dropout.
As the maximum magnet height is 28mm.
The rated power is 500W, peak power could be about 3000W for few second.
P.S.: Some supplier might call it 3000W, as the peak power might be 3000W.
We name it as rated power for general usage.

Best Regards
 
Vito8828 said:
mvly said:
Any good 3000KW+ motor in 135mm dropout?
Do you mean 3000W?
If yes, it's not possible to make 3000W motor in 135mm dropout.
As the maximum magnet height is 28mm.
The rated power is 500W, peak power could be about 3000W for few second.
P.S.: Some supplier might call it 3000W, as the peak power might be 3000W.
We name it as rated power for general usage.

Best Regards

Yeah i meant 3KW. Sorry. Thanks for the repsonse. Man it is tough getting anything decent in 135mm dropout. I guess i have to upgrade to 150mm.
 
ridethelightning said:
hi vito.
could you perhaps supply some spare hall sensors to replac broken ones?
thanks
RTL
Thank you for your question.
Is that QS Motor?
If yes, we could provide the hall sensor (Honeywell) to sales.
You could ask sales of the QS motor for the hall sensors.

Best Regards
 
Artur said:
Waiting 10 modifed V3 to be ready, motors will be opened, test inside and outside, and ride. Also one non hub motor. Brace yourself Big tests are comming :)
Hello Artur,

Thank you for your patience, I ask our Production Dept. to get them ready asap.
And for the test, I believe in our 3kW V3 type hub motor.
It's the best performance in the spoke hub motor market.
P.S.: One customer test it with Sabvoton Controller 72150(sine wave 150A battery current), and turns out very well.
 
actually cromotor, but i belive they are actually more or less the same thing.

this unit had some broken hall legs on arrival..

i am also interested in a side order of motor to compare to cromotorv3 while im at it :D
 
Pm sent regarding QS 3000W 205 (50H) E-bike Spoke Hub Motor Extra/V3 Type.
 
ridethelightning said:
actually cromotor, but i belive they are actually more or less the same thing.
this unit had some broken hall legs on arrival..
i am also interested in a side order of motor to compare to cromotorv3 while im at it :D
Vito: Thank you for your pic.
It's better to purchase one sample for testing, and you will have a better undertanding.
And I could send some hall sensors with the sample.
Attached comparision of "QS Motor V1 V2 V3" & "Hall Sensor (Honeywell left one)" for reference.

Best Regards
 

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moonshine said:
Pm sent regarding QS 3000W 205 (50H) E-bike Spoke Hub Motor Extra/V3 Type.
Vito: Thank you for Pm, I have got back to your question accordingly, please have a check. Thank you!
 
thank you for the more detailed infos about winding options and kV of V3 type motors.

personally i'm also very interested in this type:

QS 2000W 205 (45H) E-bike Spoke Hub Motor Extra/V3 Type
PCD 6x44, 150mm droputs with 10mm flat, spoke flange

whats the weight of this motor (it's not stated in the data sheet)?
i believe winding options are same as 50H motor, but kV will be a bit higher because of smaller stator, right?

further: whats the difference between:

236,5$ QS 2000W 205 (50H) E-bike Spoke Hub Motor Export/V2 Type
and
258,2$ QS 3000W 205 (50H) E-bike Spoke Hub Motor Export/V2 Type
 
A few questions on this bad boy:
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Is it threaded for a free wheel and if not can it be?
Can it be made larger for 19 inch moto tires or is 17 the biggest you go right now?
What is the weight?
What is the price?

Is no one else thinking what I am about never having to mess with spokes and a heavy hub motor again?! haha :twisted:
 
17 kw peak. You will fly with that thing.
I read 17 kilo for that motor.
This motor is wired like a dual 3 phase motor.
You could run 2 controllers for insane amount of power. Seems it is similar principal as those crazy powerful motors John in CR uses.

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Vito8828 said:
Thank you for your questions, the weight of 17inc hub motor is about 17kg (G.W.)
For one stator, we could make the magnetic steel maximum 70mm, which is rated 12kW for e-car hub motor.

Please note: Consider the high current for 12kw motor, we make six phase lines, while you should connect the two same color phase lines with accordingly wire of controller.
i.e.: connect the yellow phase line of controller with two yellow phase line of motor.
connect the blue phase line of controller with two blue phase line of motor.
connect the green phase line of controller with two green phase line of motor.
P.S.: for one phase line, the cross section area is 12mm², so for two phase line, the cross section area is 24mm².
Attached pic for reference.
 
Ah, thanks. I somehow missed that detail in my first read. So this motor is also a dual stator setup? I have a KEB72601 and a 150mm swingarm that are just itching for the right motor right now! Wasn't expecting to find something outside ofJohn's monster where I might need two of them.
 
What you posted I think is not dual stator. As this is the dual stator motors.
Twice the width, and in fact two motors in one shell.

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But as the motor you posted is 6 phase it means you can use two controllers to get easier load on the controllers and I assume you could deliver even more current from 2 controllers then from just 1 controllers. So that should really give you more torque also.
 
Ah, right. This is all making sense now! So it does appear to be a great match for this 6kw controller.
 
ecycler said:
A few questions on this bad boy:
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Is it threaded for a free wheel and if not can it be?
Can it be made larger for 19 inch moto tires or is 17 the biggest you go right now?
What is the weight?
What is the price?

Is no one else thinking what I am about never having to mess with spokes and a heavy hub motor again?! haha :twisted:
Vito: Thank you for your interest.
There is no thread for free wheel.
The net weight of 17inch 8kW is 26kg-26.5kg (Sorry for the mistake I write it 17kg by mistake).
For integrated wheel hub motor, It's the maximum size for the moment (no more than 17inch).
For the price, please refer to attachment"17inch 8kW QS Motor Quotation & SPEC.pdf".

Best Regards
 

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macribs said:
What you posted I think is not dual stator. As this is the dual stator motors.
Twice the width, and in fact two motors in one shell.

Dual-Stator-Motor.png


But as the motor you posted is 6 phase it means you can use two controllers to get easier load on the controllers and I assume you could deliver even more current from 2 controllers then from just 1 controllers. So that should really give you more torque also.

Vito: Thank you for your help.
For 12kW 70mm 273 hub motor, it's single stator, to match with one controller.
For 2*8kW 2*50mm 273 hub motor, it's dual stator, to mach with two controlelrs.

And sorry for mistake, the weight of 17inch 8kW motor would be 26-26.5kg.

Best Regards
 
ecycler said:
Ah, thanks. I somehow missed that detail in my first read. So this motor is also a dual stator setup? I have a KEB72601 and a 150mm swingarm that are just itching for the right motor right now! Wasn't expecting to find something outside ofJohn's monster where I might need two of them.
Vito: I think it's better to match with 3kW 205 50mm hub motor (single stator).
 
Vito, whats the weight of 205 45H ebike spoke extra/V3 motor?
 
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