FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by bradytimes » Jul 22 2019 2:46am

Does the M600 limit the speed? If so, please explain.

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Post by Map Paddy » Jul 31 2019 9:57pm

Order my bike about a month ago heard back that it's being painted went red over black with red lyrik ult .I second renaming the bike m600 2.0 is bland like a serial code maybe we could have pole or somthing to chose names ,hoping the motor has the steel gear should be ready to ship next week!Am shipping to Canada so will post and review once I get it. have a ht 1000 so can compare really loving the other bike ordering a spare cassette and chain to boot
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Post by 18650 » Aug 01 2019 12:47am

Does the M600 now come with steel gears?

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Post by bradytimes » Aug 03 2019 9:50am

Yes, it comes with steel gears. That’s what Frey told me.

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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by bradytimes » Aug 14 2019 6:37pm

Frey sent pics of my completed bike. I went with blue. I posted the pics on another thread. See viewtopic.php?t=99988#p1488919

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Post by Map Paddy » Aug 15 2019 11:57am

Bike ready to ship have a look at this beauty,
Red over black
Lyrik rc2 ult
Magura mt5e
Xt gears
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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by tinasdude » Sep 06 2019 3:42pm

What is the total weight?

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Post by Map Paddy » Sep 16 2019 7:15pm

Ok got my bike its smooth as butter compared to ht1000 not as powerful for sure and limited to 45km which is a bit of a bummer other that that it feels more nimble and is noticeably lighter will be better off road and matches cadence better which makes it feel more like a bike if power is what your after go am1000 if well balanced emtb go m600
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Post by Map Paddy » Sep 16 2019 7:20pm

Anybody know how I could unlock the speed ?

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Post by FijiBrad » Sep 19 2019 1:47am

Map Paddy wrote:Ok got my bike its smooth as butter compared to ht1000 not as powerful for sure and limited to 45km which is a bit of a bummer other that that it feels more nimble and is noticeably lighter will be better off road and matches cadence better which makes it feel more like a bike if power is what your after go am1000 if well balanced emtb go m600
What is the strap-like thing on the down tube?


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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by FijiBrad » Sep 19 2019 1:48am

FijiBrad wrote:
Map Paddy wrote:Ok got my bike its smooth as butter compared to ht1000 not as powerful for sure and limited to 45km which is a bit of a bummer other that that it feels more nimble and is noticeably lighter will be better off road and matches cadence better which makes it feel more like a bike if power is what your after go am1000 if well balanced emtb go m600
What is the strap-like thing on the down tube?


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Ahh, i assume it is a bottle cage?


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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by leafkicker » Sep 19 2019 6:33am

What distance are you guys getting on one battery?

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Post by Map Paddy » Sep 19 2019 11:12am

Not sure its max range but have completed a 45km ride fast enough pace ,yeh the strap is a bottle cage

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Post by Map Paddy » Sep 19 2019 11:13am

Luna cycle are selling m600 at 2k watts so nodding is possible wonder if frey can do anything for those who want more poke

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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by FijiBrad » Oct 05 2019 7:44pm

How’s the bike going thus far?


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Post by FijiBrad » Nov 07 2019 4:20pm

Hi. Does anyone have any further feedback after having the bike for a while? Thanks


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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by formula101 » Nov 08 2019 3:21pm

I've read the bafang M600 is governed at 28 mph and there is no way to override factory lock through the display. Is this accurate?

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Post by robocam » Nov 08 2019 3:41pm

The speed limit varies depending on who you buy it from. Maybe you can ask Frey to see if they can have it programmed to 56mph.
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I've read the bafang M600 is governed at 28 mph and there is no way to override factory lock through the display. Is this accurate?

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Post by Animalector » Nov 08 2019 3:47pm

Yes they are programmed to 45km/h. You cannot adjust the speed limit because it is set in firmware. It won't go much faster than 45km/h anyway. There is not enough power

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Post by Kepler » Nov 08 2019 9:22pm

My experience is that the pedal assist cuts out at 40kph (25mph). It will only go to 45kph (28mph) if you use the throttle. I was thinking it was just my version of the M600 but the Luna X1 boys are reporting the same. At first it was thought that the gearing was the governing factor but this has since been taken out of the equation with many now using a 38 or 40 tooth chainring.

There is also a convoluted speed override that you can do through the control buttons that will give you 45kph through the pedal assist but i have never bothered to try it.

As Animalector said, there really isn't enough power to go much faster then 45kph and even with a 40 tooth chainring, you would be spinning like a mad man to get above 45kph.
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Post by robocam » Nov 08 2019 11:34pm

Actually, it appears they were too quick to assume that a speed limit existed for the pedal assistance. Michael has shown that he can activate the assist as high as 30mph. It seems that people weren't pedaling hard enough.

https://electricbike.com/forum/forum/kn ... #post95769

To activate the "override"/boost function, press the + button until the boost icon is displayed (it's a letter B with three lines next to it). Then press and hold the power button.

Here's a chart I made for a 42T front chainring. The cadences at the higher speeds aren't too extreme. I made one for km/h as well. I will install a 42T in mine to confirm fit. I also have a 40T I will test.
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Nov 08 2019 9:22pm
My experience is that the pedal assist cuts out at 40kph (25mph). It will only go to 45kph (28mph) if you use the throttle. I was thinking it was just my version of the M600 but the Luna X1 boys are reporting the same. At first it was thought that the gearing was the governing factor but this has since been taken out of the equation with many now using a 38 or 40 tooth chainring.

There is also a convoluted speed override that you can do through the control buttons that will give you 45kph through the pedal assist but i have never bothered to try it.

As Animalector said, there really isn't enough power to go much faster then 45kph and even with a 40 tooth chainring, you would be spinning like a mad man to get above 45kph.

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Post by brake034 » Nov 19 2019 4:17am

I am getting a M600 soon, it's being packed today.
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Post by robocam » Nov 20 2019 11:54pm

I just installed a 42T chainring on my X-1, and I can confirm that the pedal assist on the M600 does not stop at 25mph. In fact, I got it up to 30mph on flat ground using pedal assist (no throttle).

https://youtu.be/amzIyAd5pn8
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Nov 08 2019 9:22pm
My experience is that the pedal assist cuts out at 40kph (25mph). It will only go to 45kph (28mph) if you use the throttle. I was thinking it was just my version of the M600 but the Luna X1 boys are reporting the same. At first it was thought that the gearing was the governing factor but this has since been taken out of the equation with many now using a 38 or 40 tooth chainring...

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Post by robocam » Dec 02 2019 5:27am

I have just confirmed with Frey that you can order the M600 with a 60 km/h (37 mph) speed limit.
Animalector wrote:
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Yes they are programmed to 45km/h. You cannot adjust the speed limit because it is set in firmware...

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Post by Map Paddy » Dec 03 2019 6:57am

My controller burnt out after less than 500 km now trying have it replaced by Frey had to bypass battery mount to prove it was controller 3weeks of back and forth to get faulty components replaced really hoping Frey don't try pull a fast one have a 5 grand paper weight after 2 months if they do

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