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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby AussieJester » Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:07 am

Nice job there mate...little tipz for the seat upholstery (my old man taught me how to recover bike seats years ago was part of his business...) If you have a heat gun or a hair drier set to MAX HEAT you can soften the vinyl and stretch it to remove those creases, if not sitz him out in the sun for 30 minutes ;-) ...OH...also a good idea to put a layer or two of Glad Wrap (what its marketed as here in OZ) over the seat before putting on the vinyl cover, this allows the vinyal to 'move' when ya ass sits on it and not grab the rubber and ripz it... Nice bike anywayz well done ;-)
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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby Almasi » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:50 am

I added a new feature to my Specialised and made some other thing better!

I used to have a small switch mounted next to my brake lever for my turbo mode (it control a relay for series to parrallel 33Volt to 66 Volt), I now integraded that in my CyleAnalist(switch under + Green led) + new feature; 2 warning led, Yellow 85 Celcius and Red 105 Celcius motor temp :)

While I was there, I didn't need the hall sensor (I run a pedal first controller) I took them out and took advantage of the extra space to put bigger phase wire 8)

I'm also replacing the bearing...they are ok...but a bit of play in them and I hate it :evil: .

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New phase wire installed on the Crystalyte pedal first controller 72Volt 20 Amp, I modified the casing to be shorter, soldered the shunt to 25 Amp(I was conservative)and I installed my little temperature warning device inside the controller, it's a LM358 with 2 adjustable reference voltage(20 Turn very small potentiometer) and a Dewalt OEM Temp sensor :) (I used what I had in my shop)
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New phase wire in place + temp sensor wire
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Comparaison between the OEM Crystalyte 406 Wire and the one I used

The OEM have 19 medium/small copper wire, the one I used have 65 small copper wire, its rated 12 gauge, but as more copper than the OEM and has more surface area...so therefor a lot better! (I hope)
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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby Almasi » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:44 am

Inside the controller:
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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby Doctorbass » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:06 am

Hewy Almasi, Why not adding a 135Celsius led!

Mine ofted reach that temp when above 3.5kW.. Mine toke sometimes 160+degree and still alive..

This is very conservative at 105 !

Nice circuit for the 3 led :wink:

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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby fechter » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:35 am

Nice job.
What kind of temperature sensor are you using?
"One test is worth a thousand opinions"
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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby Doctorbass » Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:02 am

fechter wrote:Nice job.
What kind of temperature sensor are you using?


I think he mentionned that he took one coming from a dewalt pack
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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby Almasi » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:04 am

fechter wrote:Nice job.
What kind of temperature sensor are you using?


I used what i found in the shop...which was a OEM Dewalt Temp sensor. (I tested it at different temperature to find the value vs temp)

I have new clean picture with my new custom made torque arm that use the new stud that I installed for a proper disc brake mount (I used to have cheap 10mm nuts that were getting loose sometime)

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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby pat_smtih » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:24 pm

I converted a Novara Randonee touring bike using a Cyclone 500W motor. I didn't want to lose my triple up front so I copied the StokeMonkey design:

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No freewheeling crank but that's ok with me. Performs great on all the local hills.
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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby sangesf » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:49 pm

Here is the before....
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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby sangesf » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:55 pm

Here are the afters....
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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby www.recumbents.com » Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:51 pm

Before:
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After:
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BMC 600 watt hub motor
Crystalite 40A 24-72V controller
Ping 2.0 48V20Ah Batteries (split into 2 packs for pannier mounting)
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Speed: 31MPH on flat road.
http://www.recumbents.com/home.asp?URL=wisil/e-bent/zcommuter.htm

One year Later:
* Added a new rear air shock to prevent tire hop over the bumps (works great!).
* Moved the battery and controller to the front of the bike, greatly improving the handling.
* Shortened the wires, added thicker phase wires to the motor, upgraded to big Anderson connectors.
* Covered the wires on the frame with matching white tape.

Bike now goes about 34 max. The Ping battery is hanging in there after 2 years and 1000+ miles of WOT commuting. Ok, I do have to accelerate slowly to avoid popping the BMS limiter, but once I get up to about 15MPH I can crank it wide open. Max current is 20A up the big hills.

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Postby Reid Welch » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:02 pm

From Miami's Coral Way Bike Shop (the no-attitude bike shop in town)

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single speed coaster brake, steel frame and fork, alloy rims, stainless spokes, Kenda tires,
$200 with included six months warranty (free adjustments)

Now what is next? This bike was fine and easy-gliding as-is. It is good quality, basic bicycle! :D
Best of all for an e-bike, imo, it is STEEL, where steel counts: a security-plus for curb hoppers and grasshoppers :wink: like me.

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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby www.recumbents.com » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:08 pm

In the beginning (August 2006), it started with a perfectly innocent Mongoose ($300) pedal/electric motocross bike.
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After some massaging (April 2007), it was morphed into a 30MPH recumbent fully suspended commuter. I was able to re-use the rear subframe, wheels, electronics, brakes, etc.
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When the cold weather hit, it was time for a fairing (November 2008). This allowed the bike to go 30MPH in all conditions rather than just in ideal conditions.
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After 2 years the bike and LiFePo4 battery are still going strong.

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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby recumpence » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:17 pm

My latest build. Just down to the wiring now.

45 pounds 14hp. :wink:

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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby Doctorbass » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:31 pm

Nice built!!

did you tested the 14hp from the battery? (14 x .746=10.4kW)..

what is the voltage drop at your max current?

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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby recumpence » Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:32 am

Actually, the battery can put out more than that. The 14hp I have calculated is controller output.

I highly doubt it will ever see that much power more than 2 seconds while it trys to flip over backward!

I am thinking it will rarely ever hit that much power except for bursts to snap the front wheel up. I normally ride my bikes around 6hp for most accelleration. But, hey, I like the occasional huge power hit. :wink:

These cells will probably drop from their 48 volts down to about 43 volts under load.

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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby Doctorbass » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:04 pm

Your ebike performance are similar to mine with the 5305 i'm using at 100V 95A.

Usually, I have 6200W on normal acceleration and hit 8500W sometimes on fresh charged cells.

The average power i have at around 65km/h normal ride is around 2600-3300W (5hp)measured on the C-A

Today i've tried one known high hill on Quebec, the speed minimum was 50.2kmh at 4600W... I was right on the max speed limit of 50km/h zone.. 8)

On fresh charged cells on the first WOT acceleration the voltage drop to 90V at 95A (8500W) 11.4hp measured on the C-A

What i observed is that by putting battery the lower as possible, the handling of it become very stable,

The battery are 10C rated so the max amp can be up to 230A.. probably at 85V (19.5kW max )and on acceleration i still have enough weight on the front wheel to turn even though at moderate speed.

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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby steveo » Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:47 pm

recumpence wrote:My latest build. Just down to the wiring now.

45 pounds 14hp. :wink:

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could you post some videos & more photos showing your build?

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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby recumpence » Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:21 pm

Here is the build.

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I do not want to clog up this thread. :D

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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby rguy56 » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:58 pm

recumpence,

Every time I see one of your creations I am unwilling and unable to claim that I'm an e bike "builder". I know I'm just assembling lego by comparison.
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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby Kaño » Fri May 01, 2009 5:43 pm

Here goes mine:

Before, ( not the before of before, but before the next picture :roll: :?: )

I was a pagan, worshiping the GAS lord! ( wow, that engine was really messy, puagg )

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After, I realized I could run by the power of lightning! :wink:

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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby etard » Sat May 02, 2009 3:35 am

So sad, it was too late for the dog, the gaslord already took him. :lol:

That is one stretched limo, it looks alot cleaner now too. I love it, especially that springer front end. It's a great conversion Kano. Let there be more crossovers!

Is that a geared rear hub?

Whoa nelly, no FRONT BRAKE!!! I don't wanna know, I'm not looking anymore, I'm turning around and walking away...with my eyes still shut. :wink:
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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby Kaño » Sat May 02, 2009 9:01 am

well, yes it is a nexus 7 speed rear hub... and as it is an old school style bike, it has no front brake, and the shifter is below the seat!

The " try to stay alive" style! :shock:
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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby Christobel931 » Wed May 06, 2009 12:54 pm

Here's "My first Ebike"... not from Fisher Price :D

Pretty basic conversion I suppose... works real good. I got the donor bike cheap so was able to get most of the "necessities" right away.
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"almost done" Need to shorten phase/throttle wiring.
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Aluminum frame and fork... Read many ES horror stories... so now...
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This, Surly MTB fork, amped torque arm(not fully secured yet), Kool Stop brake pads. Big Apple tires work as advertised... soak up a lot of the shock.
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Topeak MTX with my HTB Battery, and Watt's up Meter, so I know what's up! I think some of the utility boxes mounted as panniers are in the future for security, but at least I can take the big buck battery with me if need be.

This bike is a runner... still breaking in battery, I rode 15 miles yesterday in hilly terrain, only used 6ah from battery. I think I pedal too much!
Motor seems to like running at least 18mph or better so I pedal pretty strong on grades and keep up my speed.

I've had many motorcycles over the years, dirt and street, all long gone now, this bike is just as much fun... maybe I'm getting old :lol:
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Re: Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Postby Microbatman » Wed May 06, 2009 5:48 pm

Christobel931

Great job on the build!!!

Looks nice and clean.

Good decison with those Surley forks and using a torque arm. Looks like you did some homework and made the right choice on beefing up how the motor is held in. Using the torque arm and Surly's should help prevent the motor from spinning out and creating damage. Very wise decision.
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