Grin Cyclery (www.ebikes.ca) - HUGE Clearance Sale

[Carzy]

Over the course of many months, we, at Grin, have acquired a number of new and used ebike components that up until now have sat patiently on our garage sale shelf in the shop waiting for customers to walk in and take them away. However, we currently have quite a bit of stock lying around that we thought it might be nice to open up our garage sale shelf to the members of endless-sphere. I have taken pictures of everything we have - it includes Cycle Analysts, motors, controllers, lights, batteries and miscellaneous of all sorts and shapes. It is all being sold at bargain prices, so this is the perfect chance to upgrade a part on your ebike, or perhaps start a new project.

The basics:

Firstly, because everything is garage sale, this means it has no warranty. Everything is sold as-is. We will of course test the part before shipping (except in the case of batteries) so you can rest assured the part will work as advertised and this means we can price stuff at clearance rates. If you have a problem with any component, we can provide technical support to get you up and running as best we can, but we cannot do any of the actual repair work ourselves. If you need replacement parts for anything, we can probably provide them (if we have them on hand), but you will have to pay for the parts and shipping.

Everything listed is numbered, which means that if you want to purchase something you will need to quote the number when purchasing (it wouldn't hurt to include the description either...). If you have any questions about any part just let me know - I can provide dimensions, weight, and additional product pictures if required. Quite a few of the parts are also sold on our website (Infineon controllers for instance) - so if you go to the website you can probably find product specs for anything here (http://www.ebikes.ca).

Prices are listed in USD and are negotiable if you want to buy anything in bulk. You will have to pay for shipping for anything you purchase (we ship by Canada Post/USPS or by FedEx) - just let me know if you would like a shipping quote.

Once you know what you want, send an email to sales@ebikes.ca with your product number, shipping address and name and we'll email you back with a quote and then we can proceed with payment.

If you need help with anything just let me know - I will be updating this thread as things get sold, and I may be adding some more stuff in a few days so check back!

EDIT 17/12/10 - Items that have been sold and shipped are now removed. Major price drops have occurred on a lot of the items left, get your orders in before everything goes!

EDIT 21/01/11 - Items that have been sold and shipped are now removed. Major price drops have occurred on a lot of the items left, get your orders in before everything goes!

So without further ado, here's the list - click the text for a picture:

Motor Controllers

2. Infineon Immediate Start Controller – C3640-NC, 40A limit, 36-48V compatible, IRFB4110 mosfets, second hand - PRICE DROP $90

44. eZee motor controller – 20A current limit, 36V maximum input - $50

62. eZee motor controller – 20A current limit, 36V maximum input - $50

Miscellaneous

33. 5V DC-DC Converter – new with cosmetic defect, 48V nominal max input - $30

Hub Motors

Front 273mm Diameter Nine Continent Hub - new - $120

Rear 273mm Diameter Nine Continent Hub - new - $120

A few months ago we decided to try out Nine Continent's larger 273mm diameter motor series, hoping to find something comparable to the beefy and robust Crystalyte 5300 hubs for those needing maximum torque. What we received is a motor that has almost exactly the same performance specs as the Crystalyte 5304, but with 1/3rd less weight. This motor series uses narrower 16mm magnets, but this is offset by a much larger internal rotor diameter, producing a hub that's about 10% heavier and 10% more powerful than our Nine Continent 2800 series. We have named this the 1606 hub (16mm magnets, 6 turn winding) and have both a front and a single speed rear option available on our motors store page. We have modeled it for the simulator too (http://ebikes.ca/simulator/). While the thinner gauge wires don't allow current flow as large as you would be able to achieve with a 5300 series this is still a great motor and this is an absolute bargain price for a new motor at almost half the normal retail price.

46. Crystalyte Front 5304 3 Phase Hub Motor – new - $250

47. 26” Crystalyte Front 409 DC Hub Motor – second hand - $60

48. 20” Crystalyte Rear 405 3 Phase Hub Motor – refurbished - PRICE DROP $125

50. 26” eZee Geared Rear Motor with Schwalbe Marathon Plus tire – new, painted hub motor - PRICE DROP $350

51. 700C eZee Geared Rear Motor with Schwalbe Marathon Plus tire – second hand - PRICE DROP $350

52. 20” Crystalyte Front 409 DC Hub Motor – second hand, possible winding issue - $40

NEW - 71. 20" Crystalyte Front 5303 - second hand - $250

NEW - 70. 20" Crystalyte Rear 5303 - second hand, cosmetic damage + disc side cover holes are misaligned - $250 - add $50 if you would like us to drill out and tap a new set of holes

Batteries and Chargers

63. Lithium Battery Charger - 36V (42V), 5.3A, not UL certified - $40

64. Lithium Battery Charger – 36V (42V), 4A, not UL certified - $50


Adam

[RTLSHIP]

Why free for the 36v nicad and nimh packs? I would like them provided you could sell me a compatible charger. I'd pay shipping also , of course.

[Carzy]

They are free because we don't know the capacity and we just want to get them out the door to someone who might be able to make better use of them than us...I don't really have the time to test them and I'm not expecting much from them to be honest with you - but there'll definitely be some good cells so someone looking to use the pack for cell replacements or similar will definitely get some good use from them...

If you'd like to purchase them please email in, we're operating this on a first come first serve basis so they may have already gone...

Adam

[dbaker]

Do I send an email or post an order request here?

[Icewrench]

Once you know what you want, send an email to
sales@ebikes.ca
with your product number, shipping address and name and we'll email you back with a quote and then we can proceed with payment.

I used that link above and my stuff is on it`s way.

[Carzy]

Updated main post with SOLD items and also added some new motors:

Front 273mm Diameter Nine Continent Hub - new - $120

Rear 273mm Diameter Nine Continent Hub - new - $120

We decided in this order to try out their larger 273mm diameter motor series, hoping to find something comparable to the beefy and robust Crystalyte 5300 hubs for those needing maximum torque. What we received is a motor that has almost exactly the same performance specs as the Crystalyte 5304, but with 1/3rd less weight. This motor series uses narrower 16mm magnets, but this is offset by a much larger internal rotor diameter, producing a hub that's about 10% heavier and 10% more powerful than our Nine Continent 2800 series. We have named this the 1606 hub (16mm magnets, 6 turn winding) and have both a front and a single speed rear option available on our motors store page. We have modeled it for the simulator too (http://ebikes.ca/simulator/). While the thinner gauge wires don't allow current flow as large as you would be able to achieve with a 5300 series this is still a great motor and this is an absolute bargain price for a new motor at almost half the normal retail price.

[Carzy]

EDIT 17/12/10 - Items that have been sold and shipped are now removed. Major price drops have occurred on a lot of the items left, get your orders in before everything goes!

[liveforphysics]

Oops! ment to PM.

[Carzy]

Updated:

Removed sold items
Further price drops on some items
Added a few new items

[x88x]

Hmmm, that 9C 1606 and $20 NiCd packs are tempting...I'll have to see how much car repairs cost this weekend..

[saltyyadad]

i dont suppose you have any of the rear 273m diameter nine continents left on clearence,they look gorgeous,with a good controller.the bigger the better.whats the best they run with .also a large screen cycle analyst that will connect to the controller .if you could sort us a good deal out on that package,and get back to me please.thanks ,shaun in sunny england

[Carzy]

Hi Shaun,

We do indeed have some of those motors left - please send an email to sales@ebikes.ca with your order and someone will respond with an estimate for you.

Thanks,

Adam

[will_newton]

whats the best they run with

I bought one with the 35a controller and used 48V (12s lipo). It's about as much as the stock motor wiring can handle for short runs, maybe under a minute or so. I actually placed another order for the 25A controller and use it now instead. The smaller size controller was more convenient to hide on the bike and the performance difference was only noticed at the low end during hard acceleration and even then it was not much of a difference. Top end performance was the same and the hub runs perfectly cool at full power for as long as the charge lasts. Justin actually recommended against anything larger than the 35A controller and he was right!

You can certainly run higher voltage batteries, but need to limit the amps. It can run 1200 watts all day and 1500ish in short runs and about 1700+ for hard takeoffs. YMMV. I like mine and with upgraded wiring, it could have good potential for hot rodding. It looks cool too!

[torker]

whats the best they run with

I bought one with the 35a controller and used 48V (12s lipo). It's about as much as the stock motor wiring can handle for short runs, maybe under a minute or so. I actually placed another order for the 25A controller and use it now instead. The smaller size controller was more convenient to hide on the bike and the performance difference was only noticed at the low end during hard acceleration and even then it was not much of a difference. Top end performance was the same and the hub runs perfectly cool at full power for as long as the charge lasts. Justin actually recommended against anything larger than the 35A controller and he was right!

You can certainly run higher voltage batteries, but need to limit the amps. It can run 1200 watts all day and 1500ish in short runs and about 1700+ for hard takeoffs. YMMV. I like mine and with upgraded wiring, it could have good potential for hot rodding. It looks cool too!

What is the speed of the 1606 on 48 v? How wide is it? If you don't mind.

[Carzy]

Hi torker,

Take a look at our simulator here: http://ebikes.ca/simulator/

It'll show you the motor performance at 48V.

Updated SALE:

Removed more sold items
Dropped some prices even further
Added 2 new Ni-Cd batteries

[torker]

Ok I looked at the sim. I am wondering about dropout spacing. I could not find the drawing with meas. like some of the other motors have.

[karma]

thank you again

[karma]

whats the best they run with

I bought one with the 35a controller and used 48V (12s lipo). It's about as much as the stock motor wiring can handle for short runs, maybe under a minute or so. I actually placed another order for the 25A controller and use it now instead. The smaller size controller was more convenient to hide on the bike and the performance difference was only noticed at the low end during hard acceleration and even then it was not much of a difference. Top end performance was the same and the hub runs perfectly cool at full power for as long as the charge lasts. Justin actually recommended against anything larger than the 35A controller and he was right!

You can certainly run higher voltage batteries, but need to limit the amps. It can run 1200 watts all day and 1500ish in short runs and about 1700+ for hard takeoffs. YMMV. I like mine and with upgraded wiring, it could have good potential for hot rodding. It looks cool too!

newton what voltage are you running now? any updates on the performance?

cheers

[Kin]

NEW - 71. 20" Crystalyte Front 5303 - second hand - $250
NEW - 70. 20" Crystalyte Rear 5303 - second hand, cosmetic damage + disc side cover holes are misaligned - $250 - add $50 if you would like us to drill out and tap a new set of holes

Hi , I'm a bit curious on a few products... I don't know if you have time to answer my questions though. With the Crystalyte 20" front hub, what is the max speed the motor goes (given the 20" wheel size)? I'm fine with the rpm number too. I guess, assuming I was running at 48v. I checked using the simulator, and I *think* the 48v max would be around 31mph. But with that, I can't tell the difference between running the 5303 or the rebuilt 405. So, perhaps I am not using it correctly.


Batteries and Chargers
56. Elegance Ni-Cd Battery – 36V – new battery, tests to 8.6Ah (of original 8Ah rated capacity) - PRICE DROP $150
57. Elegance Ni-Cd Battery – 36V – damaged cells, tests to 6Ah (of original 8Ah rated capacity), will need repair at some point - $40

On number 57, when you say, "will need some repair at some point" [It's the 6ah 36v battery] do you just mean that it has limited lifespan left? What do you mean by will need repair at some point? [I cant think of how batteries can be repaired, except improved solder joints]. But you priced it below the 5ah batteries, so I assume there's something behind that.

68. Elegance Ni-Cd Battery - 36V - triangular - used, see picture for test result, gives approximately 8Ah with o
ne reversal - $100
Sorry, I don't really know what you mean by one reversal. I know if a lower voltage cell charges from the higher ones during discharge this is bad, but I don't know the implications for this pack.
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I'm sorry for all the questions. I just thought this might be an opportunity for me to get into an ebike, without investing too much in batteries which I can upgrade later, and with a solid foundation (which is I assume why crystalyte hubs are so expensive). I'll also have to look into whether a serious nicad nimh charger I had for model helicopters 10 years ago is a useful charger for these batteries.

[x88x]

You'll probably get a quicker response if you email him, I'm not sure if he's still monitoring this thread.

Also, for the speed, check out their simulator:
http://ebikes.ca/simulator/

[Kin]

You'll probably get a quicker response if you email him, I'm not sure if he's still monitoring this thread.

Also, for the speed, check out their simulator:
http://ebikes.ca/simulator/

Thanks, I'll give that a shot.

Edit: Ok, I sent the email. I think the simulator indicated something around 31mph. But I didn't notice any difference with the 5303 and the 405, so I'm wondering if I'm reading the simulator entirely wrong. :S.

[x88x]

But I didn't notice any difference with the 5303 and the 405, so I'm wondering if I'm reading the simulator entirely wrong. :S.

Look at the torque and power consumption curves. The 5303 consumes a bit more power and produces a lot more torque.

[Kin]

But I didn't notice any difference with the 5303 and the 405, so I'm wondering if I'm reading the simulator entirely wrong. :S.

Look at the torque and power consumption curves. The 5303 consumes a bit more power and produces a lot more torque.

Bummer, I haven't had any response from them. I assume it's just the weekend. Would you have any recommendations for me to go for the 405 or the 5303? Pro of 405 is that theirs is $125 (vs. $250), and rear (as opposed the front hub 5303. I want to have a solid base for future upgrades, and if the 405 is a solid base for having a 20" ebike that's great (You did say it has less torque, but presumably the 20"wheel wouldn't need as much torque. I haven't found as many google results for the 405 it as the 503/4/5, so I'm not sure how to make sense of the real world implications.

I'd couple the motor with a 35a or 40a controller, and one of the 36v batteries and a 12v SLA in series until I could upgrade to LiPO4. [I'm also trying to figure out how I'll get a 75t chainring so that I can pedal assist].

Thanks for your help, and if it's up in the air either way, meaning you have no advice for the situation, that's ok.

[x88x]

Bummer, I haven't had any response from them. I assume it's just the weekend.

They also just moved, so might be a little slow in responding.

Would you have any recommendations for me to go for the 405 or the 5303? Pro of 405 is that theirs is $125 (vs. $250), and rear (as opposed the front hub 5303

I'm not really the best person to ask about that...still pretty new to this stuff myself. Try posting a thread in the ebikes section asking for advice.

[Carzy]

x88x is correct - I've been lax on monitoring this thread, as x88x states, we recently moved location so a lot of the garage sale stuff is still boxed up in our offices here (the first post says people should email us rather than post in this thread!) - you will get a much faster reply emailing us. I plan to update this thread this week, removing some stuff, and adding some new stuff, but yep, email email...